First, too much water can cause hyponatremia. Drinking 2 to 3 litters of water / day is fine, but reach 5L and it's getting dangerous. And one of the main advantages of drinking water is it keeps your stomach full, meaning you don't feel hunger, and thus eat less.
Second, what's the purpose of your 3rd point if not to reduce calorie intake?
Maybe if you drink it all at once. 5L/day is perfectly fine for everyone in the world. If you’re drinking more than 2L/hour, that’s a problem. So space it out and drink a liter an hour or two and you’ll be fine. In the US, that’s two gallons and is a ton of water.
It’s pretty common to see friends carrying a gallon jug around to make sure they drink their gallon a day.
I tend to drink a lot and have read several times that drinking too much can be bad and change your electrolise balance or something like this.
If you’re uncertain feel free to ask your healthcare provider.
[0] for example, https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hyponatremia/...
I lost a load of weight and did it by 'eating less'.
What I was saying was anyone saying _just_ eat less, like it is some simple solution is full of shit.
I mean, if your overweight you have food control issues already like? It's not like you don't already know that eating more leads to more weight.
Op is talking about getting an oxygen tank ffs. You (the royal you) don't think they know that eating less will help them loose weight already?
What I think op is asking how do I loose weight. One could read that as, how do I eat less.
Imagine an alcoholic asked on this forum saying how do I stop been drunk all the time, can I huff some oxygen? And the top response was: just drink less.
I hope this is making sense here.
And to be clear I suggested they replace existing fluid intake with water not drink enough water to die.
Drinking a ton of water is what one might call hyperbole. I am not actually suggesting they consume a ton of water.
And regards to the weight loss it helps reduce water retention. It's not fat you will loose in three days but you will see it on the scales and you will feel better.
I doubt that causality. If you lose weight by drinking more water it's probably because you stop drinking sugary drinks.
I would be careful with drinking "loads" of anything. Depending on what "loads" really means, it can be very unhealthy (your kidneys have to process all that water) or even fatal in extreme cases.
> Get a food diary and write down everything that goes in your mouth.
Typically the 'just eat less' advice is pretty much in line with your second statement there. As someone who lost ~150lbs, I will vouch for the effectiveness of calorie restriction. The hard part, of course, is actually doing it.
Exactly. A pattern that doesn't last will get you back into the previous state fast.
I'm not a doctor but all you need is some exercise. Then you only need to let go of 1 item from your daily meal and also remove much sugar from your drinking by going tea or water and most people should do fine.
> it has effectively no bearing on weight in the general population (non-athletes).
Cmon man, strength / muscle building -absolutely- has an effect on "weight" and "bodyfat". Even when not at the athlete level. Muscle at rest burns more calories than fat at rest, and those burned calories gotta come from somewhere.
Purely mechanically, mild effort simply does not burn that many calories over baseline metabolism. To make a real dent you need extreme prolonged effort, or increased muscle mass (which increases base metabolism).
Caloric restriction is a much easier path to caloric deficit if the goal is weight loss.
Obviously if you resume caloric profit afterwards you’ll bounce back, but the same will happen if you din’t maintain your exercise-drive metabolism: the human body is quick to tear down deviations which are costly and not actively maintained.
I think that the point is not just "burning calories"; exercise has many effects on your body that go beyond just consuming energy. For example it affects the level of hormones, which in turn affects (among other things) your mood and stress level. I am one of those persons that end up eating just because I am nervous or depressed, and regular exercise makes me do that much less.
That's a weird take given entire thread is about weight loss, and the gp was specifically noting that exercise won’t help with that. thomasfedb’s statement is rather explicit on that subject.
To lose weight you need (roughly speaking, I know it is not only about that) two things: reduce the amount of energy that you intake, and increase the amount of energy that you consume.
The traditional wisdom is you have to exercise because while doing that you consume more energy, but it is not only that. When you regularly exercise you also tend to eat less (- intake), process the food differently (- intake), speed up your metabolism out of the physical activity (+ consume)
You have to take this with a grain of salt though. My experience clinically (working in obesity clinics) is some people need exercise much more than dietary changes at least at first. But the average person wanting to lose weight will see bigger gains from dietary changes.
The type of dietary change that works best seems to depend on the person.
But man does it help with weight loss and alertness throughout the day.
Agree with everything this person above said.
How can you say others are full of shit when you yourself have returned to being overweight?
I found a few key things.
1. Decide you want to loose weight.
2. Up your plain flat water intake... Like a ton. Your body will get used to it after a day or two and you'll start feeling naturally thirsty. You notice all these skinny fit people are always drinking? That's plain water they are drinking. Seriously if your diet is crap at the moment if you start just drinking loads of water you will loose like half a stone cause you will stop retaining water. How to know how much to drink? I guess for the first 3 days go cold turkey on pop, coffee, literally any liquid other than plain water. If you keep a bottle with you all the time you will naturally just drink a ton.
You will piss like a racehorse of course but with good comes bad.
3. Get a food diary and write down everything that goes in your mouth. I tell you this alone will blow your mind and get you thinking a bit differently.
Try these to get you started.
Best of luck, fuck the begrudgers and let me know if this helps a bit and if you want more chats about it