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Re:Android 13 virtualization lets Pixel 6 run Windows 11, Li... by y4mi on Monday February 14, 2022 @03:19AM (#30329561)
Well, imagine your next work laptop to be a phone. It connects wirelessly to a display, which is paired to a keyboard and mouse.

Still not seeing the point?

People are either gonna love or hate it. Love because of how little space it requires or hate because the performance is gonna be worse then even the non pro versions of the surface.

Re:Android 13 virtualization lets Pixel 6 run Windows 11, Li... by rbanffy on Monday February 14, 2022 @04:22AM (#30329985)
> It connects wirelessly to a display, which is paired to a keyboard and mouse.

When you add the display, battery, keyboard and mouse, it's really cheap to add brains and storage and build a full laptop that can share data with your phone.

This is why most lapdocks fail - they aren't that much less expensive than a cheap laptop. This is also why, at some point, nobody was making dedicated terminals for large computers - they were as expensive to build as PCs.

Re:Android 13 virtualization lets Pixel 6 run Windows 11, Li... by oblio on Monday February 14, 2022 @03:35AM (#30329674)
This was the dream for a long time (sans the wireless part, but that's not a blocker), see Ubuntu Phone and several other attempts.

I wonder when we'll be there. For sure we're not there for wireless, yet. It's unreliable, especially if you have a lot of wireless devices around.

Re:Android 13 virtualization lets Pixel 6 run Windows 11, Li... by fsflover on Monday February 14, 2022 @04:17AM (#30329940)
Why use a virtualized Linux on proprietary Android if you can use native Linux phone with all free drivers and desktop OS? https://puri.sm/products/librem-5
Re:Android 13 virtualization lets Pixel 6 run Windows 11, Li... by Barrin92 on Monday February 14, 2022 @04:31AM (#30330040)
to be blunt because the librem is an awful phone. The battery life is miserable, the UI is terrible, and the performance isn't great either. It feels five years behind at the price that's higher than the pixel 6.

A mid-range Xiaomi phone is better than the Librem 5 and costs four times less.

Re:Android 13 virtualization lets Pixel 6 run Windows 11, Li... by fsflover on Monday February 14, 2022 @04:37AM (#30330087)
These are all software issues, which are being worked on: https://teddit.net/r/Purism/comments/sqbml6/is_librem_5_good...

Also, it will receive software updates forever unlike any other phone.

Re:Android 13 virtualization lets Pixel 6 run Windows 11, Li... by Barrin92 on Monday February 14, 2022 @04:54AM (#30330177)
It's not just software issues. It's a 1200$ phone with 30 gigs of drive space, 3 gigs of ram and a 720×1440 screen.

not to mention, from the thread you linked:

"About 2600 L5's have been delivered, so everyone who ordered before October 2017 should have gotten their phones. Purism reportedly just got in another 1100 L5's from the factory, so when those get shipped out, that should cover the orders up to mid-2018."

I mean you can't be serious. People paid almost a grand to wait four years for a phone?

Re:Android 13 virtualization lets Pixel 6 run Windows 11, Li... by fsflover on Monday February 14, 2022 @05:30AM (#30330406)
The delays are real (waiting for mine too), but IMHO there were good reasons for that: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque...

But this tiny company with no experience in smartphones did finally produce the product respecting users unlike Google or Apple. The current problems with CPU supply is not Purism's fault.

Also, the phone supports microSD up to 2 TB.

Re:Android 13 virtualization lets Pixel 6 run Windows 11, Li... by MerelyMortal on Monday February 14, 2022 @09:33AM (#30332451)
It was cheaper then, about $600. (still expensive and worth it, but not "almost a grand")
Re:Android 13 virtualization lets Pixel 6 run Windows 11, Li... by Saris on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @09:53AM (#30347185)
Am I reading the website right that it has 3GB of RAM and 32GB of eMMC storage? There's no way that has the RAM or IO performance to run general desktop programs.
Re:Android 13 virtualization lets Pixel 6 run Windows 11, Li... by AniseAbyss on Monday February 14, 2022 @06:33AM (#30330799)
If making a good phone OS was that easy we would have more options besides Android or iOS.
Re:Android 13 virtualization lets Pixel 6 run Windows 11, Li... by modo_mario on Monday February 14, 2022 @06:05AM (#30330607)
How does it compare to the pinephone nowadays?
Re:Android 13 virtualization lets Pixel 6 run Windows 11, Li... by yjftsjthsd-h on Monday February 14, 2022 @11:18AM (#30333807)
Especially, how does it compare to the pinephone pro
Re:Android 13 virtualization lets Pixel 6 run Windows 11, Li... by rbanffy on Monday February 14, 2022 @04:23AM (#30329988)
You can have a good phone with a good virtualized OS you you can have a not-that-good phone with a good OS.
Re:Android 13 virtualization lets Pixel 6 run Windows 11, Li... by mark_l_watson on Monday February 14, 2022 @09:49AM (#30332622)
That is what I want. In addition to a docking station in my office, I would like iPhone <—> iTV style interop in the living room, and compatible kiosk style support in public areas like airports, airlines, office buildings, etc.
Re:Android 13 virtualization lets Pixel 6 run Windows 11, Li... by Hjfrf on Monday February 14, 2022 @03:36AM (#30329683)
If people are spending 1500 on a phone rather than 750 each on laptop/phone, the performance isn't necessarily worse.

That's the real killer feature.

Re:Android 13 virtualization lets Pixel 6 run Windows 11, Li... by rbanffy on Monday February 14, 2022 @04:23AM (#30329993)
OTOH, if you spend 750 on each and one breaks, it's only 750 to replace it.
Re:Android 13 virtualization lets Pixel 6 run Windows 11, Li... by pjmlp on Monday February 14, 2022 @03:35AM (#30329673)
Like Windows Phone and Samsung DEX.
Re:Android 13 virtualization lets Pixel 6 run Windows 11, Li... by nine_k on Monday February 14, 2022 @03:36AM (#30329678)
If it could work in a pinch, that already would be valuable for some users.