to be blunt because the librem is an awful phone. The battery life is miserable, the UI is terrible, and the performance isn't great either. It feels five years behind at the price that's higher than the pixel 6.

A mid-range Xiaomi phone is better than the Librem 5 and costs four times less.

These are all software issues, which are being worked on: https://teddit.net/r/Purism/comments/sqbml6/is_librem_5_good...

Also, it will receive software updates forever unlike any other phone.

It's not just software issues. It's a 1200$ phone with 30 gigs of drive space, 3 gigs of ram and a 720×1440 screen.

not to mention, from the thread you linked:

"About 2600 L5's have been delivered, so everyone who ordered before October 2017 should have gotten their phones. Purism reportedly just got in another 1100 L5's from the factory, so when those get shipped out, that should cover the orders up to mid-2018."

I mean you can't be serious. People paid almost a grand to wait four years for a phone?

The delays are real (waiting for mine too), but IMHO there were good reasons for that: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque...

But this tiny company with no experience in smartphones did finally produce the product respecting users unlike Google or Apple. The current problems with CPU supply is not Purism's fault.

Also, the phone supports microSD up to 2 TB.

It was cheaper then, about $600. (still expensive and worth it, but not "almost a grand")

Am I reading the website right that it has 3GB of RAM and 32GB of eMMC storage? There's no way that has the RAM or IO performance to run general desktop programs.

If making a good phone OS was that easy we would have more options besides Android or iOS.

How does it compare to the pinephone nowadays?

Especially, how does it compare to the pinephone pro

You can have a good phone with a good virtualized OS you you can have a not-that-good phone with a good OS.