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Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by efsavage on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @03:09PM (#29999288)
I once almost completely automated my job, and didn't hide it. The job was to load data files into the backend system. The problem was there there were almost as many formats (~80) as there were partners sending data (~120), not just in structure but in content (deltas, full replace, etc.). This job was burning people out every 6 months, and I was the hapless next victim who was just looking to break into a tech position.

I started scripting and automating parts of it, which eventually got pieced together to be completely hands off unless a new partner came on board or there was some new error. Since some of these steps used keyboard macros on VT100 terminals, I couldn't even use my computer while it was running, so I requested another, with the explicit intent that I could use it to surf the web while my main computer was doing it's thing. Data load lag times went from weeks, to days, to hours.

When it came time for performance review, I was told I had "completely redefined the position". I would therefore be assessed against the new definition, and was therefore deemed average, and got a 3% cost of living raise (pro-rated to 2% since I'd only been there 8 months) with no merit increase. A few weeks later, my manager was somehow surprised to the point of tears that I had a new job elsewhere.

A few months later, I got a call from my ex-manager, asking if I had any backups of the programs I wrote (this was long before the days of offsite source control). I said no, I had no need for them and that would probably be illegal. My replacement had somehow lost everything, and was now trying to keep up the old burnout way and they were weeks behind.

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by TravelTechGuy on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @03:48PM (#29999892)
re: the performance review: don't know about your work place, but the first quarterly review I got at [insert name of large known company], my manger sat me down and explained she is budgeted a certain amount of bonus points for her 5 team members, and required to "grade on a curve". Hence, 1 team member will be "above average", 3 will be "average", and one "below average" every quarter. And for fairness, she rotates the names. I was deemed "below average" since it was my first quarter, but the good news, she said, is when she nominates me for "average" next quarter, she'd add a "shows improvement" comment to it!

Bare in mind, real actual money was tied to this stupid scheme, and you had to spend at least 2 hours writing a document explaining what you've done for the company, the team and the product, to justify your "averageness".

I lasted 3 quarters in that social experiment. And I'll laugh in the face of corporate recruiters till the day I die.

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by geomark on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @07:13PM (#30002403)
I was a manager in a nearly identical situation. I had 5 engineers working for me at a remote office. The "curve" had not been used in past years. Now they insisted on applying it. Since 4 out of 5 had substantially exceeded their goals it would have been a lie to state that any of them had not met expectations. So I told my boss no, I'm not doing it. You can take whatever raise you planned for me and spread it across my direct reports (unstated was that I would almost certainly quit as a result). Or you can fire me for insubordination. He ran that back up the chain of command. Apparently I wasn't the only middle manager who refused to do it, as senior management ended up rescinding the order.

Moral of the story: If you are a middle manager then grow a backbone.

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by pklausler on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @07:41PM (#30002668)
(I think this is a true story, but it was somewhat before my time.)

Control Data decided to lay off 10% of its employees, and to do so across the board. Seymour Cray had a group of only 20 engineers in his lean development group in Chippewa Falls, so they told him to fire two. So he and Les Davis, his right-hand man, quit and started Cray Research.

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by kQq9oHeAz6wLLS on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @08:19PM (#30002981)
"March 1972 an appalling rumor swept through the hallways at Control Data--Seymour Cray had resigned! The rumor was quickly confirmed by a press release. The press release was worded carefully to soothe investor fears. Seymour was reported to be "phasing out" of full-time employment with Control Data It was emphasized that development would continue at the Chippewa Lab. Trading in Control Data stock was briefly suspended. Old-timers who had followed Seymour's career since his Univac days, many of whom had worked with him at Chippewa, were skeptical of the official statements. What could have caused Seymour to resign? He was, of course, a wealthy man from his stock holdings and could do what he wished. But because he had always done just exactly what he pleased at Chippewa, why should he resign to seek more freedom as his own boss? The statement in the press release simply did not make sense. Two rumors told to me at the time may have no truth whatsoever, but they do capture the flavor of the suspicions of many employees.

The first story concerns a Control Data senior financial executive who one day reportedly called Seymour at Chippewa Falls and told him that the lab budget would have to be cut by 10 percent. The Chippewa Lab, with its thirty-odd employees was certainly the most cost-effective computer development facility in the world. Certainly it was the envy of IBM, as attested to by the Watson memo described earlier. Seymour reportedly replied, "Fine, cut me and Les Davis out of the budget" and hung up the phone. This rumor was given credibility by the continuing budget crunches and by the fact that Les Davis, Seymour's chief assistant did resign and join Seymour in his new venture.

The second story was told to me by a friend who had worked at the Chippewa Lab. He met Seymour in the hallway at headquarters one day. Knowing that Seymour hated being away from his work at Chippewa, he asked him what he was doing at headquarters. Seymour replied that he had been asked to serve on a senior technical task force that had been convened to recommend the future direction of computer development at Control Data Seymour intensely disliked meetings and task forces, but he agreed to serve because he had been personally assured by a very senior executive that the recommendation of the task force was vital to the future of the corporation. The task force of seven members met for some weeks and concluded that the design direction being taken by the model 8600 (the newest machine under development at Chippewa, successor to the model 7600) was indeed the best architecture for future CDC computers. Just before the final report was submitted, the members of the task force received memos from a second senior executive thanking them for their efforts and stating that the corporation had elected to go in a different design direction. Seymour immediately resigned."

From "A Few Good Men From UNIVAC"

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by beezle on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @11:02PM (#30004422)
Still have my dad's "Programming Univac Systems Instruction Manual 1" from 1953 when he started working for Sperry Rand. 1950s-1960s must have been a phenomenal time to work in the nascent computing industry.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by koolba on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @07:57PM (#30002809)
> If you are a middle manager then grow a backbone.

This applies more generally even if you’re not managing people. Particularly as most corporate cogs are programmed to avoid confrontation. You’re more likely to get someone who respects your principles or someone who just bends over than an incalcitrant “no”.

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by thewileyone on Monday January 24, 2022 @03:49AM (#30054979)
I put together performance metrics that showed my team members were less than 5% deviation from each other, thus I couldn't grade on the curve. HR couldn't argue against that.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by ramphastidae on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @08:00PM (#30002837)
Thank you for doing that.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by achalkley on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @07:40PM (#30002651)
This.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by duxup on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @04:28PM (#30000419)
I worked at a company that operated like that. Each manager could only put in so many high marks.

Company had something like 5000 employees.

I felt good that I often got the highest mark, but others were doing well too, they deserved more.

I finally asked my boss, he told me.

“I figured out that other being told in an email how to award perf reviews… nobody checks… so I give everyone the highest reward.”

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by Msw242 on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @04:45PM (#30000667)
Upper and middle management might be aware but every system needs a release valve. E.g. you can't have juries without the risk of jury nullification.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by sokoloff on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @04:44PM (#30000657)
Managers who just give everyone the highest rating are generally the reason that these forced curve policies are created.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by andrewflnr on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @05:02PM (#30000920)
That doesn't mean the managers are wrong.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by sokoloff on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @05:30PM (#30001313)
That is definitely (and self-evidently) true! Of all managers who rate everyone on their team as having achieved the highest performance standard, what fraction of those cases do you think are subjectively “correct”? In my experience, it’s way, way, way under half.

Further, it’s rare for the managers giving the 100% top performance evaluation to individuals to be leading groups with high overall accomplishment/delivery. (Occam’s Razor suggests that it’s evidence of poor leadership to be squandering the ability and contributions of all these high-performers. An analog might be an MLB Manager with All-Star players at every position and turning in a 0.500 season; they should expect to be fired.)

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by holoduke on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @07:20PM (#30002462)
It's a bad metric anyway. A persons rating should not be depending on the work performance. It should be depending on the happiness factor of the person. The performance of that person is the responsibility of his/her manager. So whenever a person performance bad, the manager must either fix it or leave. This principle is having so much more success than your example.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by abraae on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @07:32PM (#30002586)
What? That sounds like Alice in wonderland.

Sure a manager can affect performance but ultimately it's down to the individual.

And happiness is all nice and good but if work is the only thing that affects your happiness then you have some deep self-discovery urgently pending.

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by andrewflnr on Thursday January 20, 2022 @01:40PM (#30012807)
This is going too far the other direction. Even if we assume no one is just slacking (which is a bad assumption), sometimes people are just not suited to the job they're in, and there's nothing a manager can reasonably do to change that, short of removing them.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by jldl805 on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @09:08PM (#30003456)
Oh you're one of those people who thinks other people are the cause of one's own happiness? Or lack thereof? Geesh. Your emotions are entirely your own responsibility. Full stop.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by andrewflnr on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @10:04PM (#30003954)
It doesn't have to be a big fraction, just non-zero. Trying to ban the expression of improbable states is a form of trying to force the territory to fit the map, then also suppressing the creation of more accurate maps. I can't overstate how stupid this is.

Under such a moronic system, with your reports' welfare on the line, I believe marking everyone as a top performer is an admirable form of rebellion.

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by noizejoy on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @04:34PM (#30000501)
As someone who’s worked and managed in that type of environment and later left that world to start small companies, I was very glad, that this corporate insanity made it possible to hire great individuals away from big corporations.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by mikestew on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @06:33PM (#30002028)
Welcome to Microsoft 15-20 years ago. Or any company that uses stack ranking or a euphemism for same. As it was explained to me, “Jesus, John the Baptist, and the apostle Paul go in for their reviews. Who gets the ‘below average’?”
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by sjg007 on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @06:58PM (#30002283)
Jesus cause he was clearly crucified.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by mateo411 on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @07:43PM (#30002686)
John the Baptist lost his head.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by AareyBaba on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @08:00PM (#30002835)
Paul was wasting his time sending email to the corinthians
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by nickd2001 on Thursday January 20, 2022 @05:51AM (#30007245)
Paul may have previously got "need improvement" while he was still Saul ;)
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by cyberlurker on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @07:44PM (#30002698)
I had a very similar experience. Also, the year after a promotion there was a universal unwritten rule that you get a need improvement review no matter how well you performed.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by jokethrowaway on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @05:26PM (#30001267)
I've been on the other side of it.

I hated it but I had to pick the X best in the team. You should have reported your manager to HR.

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by kQq9oHeAz6wLLS on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @08:07PM (#30002881)
General Electric?
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by sam_goody on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @05:50PM (#30001566)
A Tale of Two Programmers should be required reading. Very relevant.

https://knowstuffs.wordpress.com/2012/08/13/the-parable-of-t...

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by johnnyanmac on Wednesday January 26, 2022 @04:25PM (#30092118)
hmm, I'm not sure how to feel about this story (now, 35 years later). On paper, the lessons seems pretty clear: look productive and don't be afraid to be a bit fancy or cryptic to flaunt your talents. This is (IMO unfortunate) standard workplace stuff you'd learn in any field.

But nowadays... I'm not sure with the strict hierarchies on if Alan would actually be promoted. And ofc, in todays' unprecedented environment there's probably more Charles out there than people want to admit, who's still providing value to companies. Very interesting story, one where you can argue that there's no obvious moral to take away when considering this 80's tale in the 2020's.

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by another_story on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @05:12PM (#30001045)
I did something similar as a summer intern back in the late 90s, but instead I got a permanent job offer at a rate 3x my intern wage. Then, a few years later when the dotcom bust hit, I became a bartender.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by gerikson on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @06:11PM (#30001832)
Nothing as dramatic as your story, but the reason I learned Perl back in 1999 or so was because I was a contractor for a contractor for a company that imported a CDs worth of XML into a database every week. The importer was written in Java, the import took around 3 days, and frequently broke because the XML didn't have escaped ampersands etc.

I wrote some scripts that chunked the input, sanitized it, scripted loading and reloading (basically baby's first ETL) and got it to run without failing every week.

A few months later I fat-fingered a rm -rf and lost all the scripts. There were no backups because the machine was not rated as being in production.

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by jquast on Thursday January 20, 2022 @07:56AM (#30008293)
File recovery is always possible. Unmount the partition (remount read-only if you have to), use a program like hexedit to open the raw disk partition and search for a unique series of text found in your script files, copy and paste the contents into new file, script restored!
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by GekkePrutser on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @09:17PM (#30003539)
I did something similar at my starting tech job at a callcenter. Part of my job was to process bulk RMAs that was so boring I automated it.

I didn't get a big merit increase but they created a new position to oversee the callcenter technology a few months later that was really my thing. Then the merit increases came too. This was almost 20 years ago and I still work there today. During this time I built custom reports, wall displays and even a basic call recording system when there was no budget to buy off the shelf :)

I'm sorry that company didn't appreciate you but a lot of them also do!

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by forinti on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @05:49PM (#30001562)
How can someone who "manages" not see the value in your work?

It seems some people have a religious view of work: it is valuable only if you are toiling and pushing yourself.

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by Msw242 on Thursday January 20, 2022 @10:52AM (#30010421)
Yeah, you take a person like this, teach them about people management, and then move them one level higher to give them access to more problems to solve.

Hours of butt in seat doesn't necessarily correlate with value delivered.

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by imtringued on Thursday January 20, 2022 @04:57AM (#30006869)
Economists of the 20th century thought that productivity increases will reduce our working hours so much that we will barely spend any time working...

What your boss should have done is lower your working hours but keep the pay the same.

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by 4m1rk on Friday January 21, 2022 @01:19AM (#30019853)
The best approach. Plus, the freedom for the employee to work on other projects. i.e. part-time contractor with some benefits.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by damirkotoric on Tuesday January 25, 2022 @12:00AM (#30068252)
Marx knew better.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by bubblecheck on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @07:42PM (#30002673)
You should have ensured that they had possession of a reliable backup/recovery method -- or, at least, clarified such a need via your exit interview.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by belval on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @07:53PM (#30002775)
Even disregarding how much goodwill the company had burned at that point. Your solution implies that they would've set up a backup method once the employee left.

For most company the exit interview is done to tick a box. The feedback given will not be listened to at all. I can absolutely understand why he didn't feel like it was his job to setup and entire source control system on his way out the door.

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by bubblecheck on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @07:59PM (#30002826)
Points taken. However, at a minimum, it is a reasonable professional courtesy to disclose the significance of the backup issue upon exit.

The company did not mistreat the employee, just that it undervalued the employee.

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by unwoundmouse on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @09:37PM (#30003714)
I think the question boils down to do you believe the employee is obligated to disclose the backup issue within the responsibility of the employment contract? I would say no, since the entire creation of the software was not within the responsibility of the contract, why would the documentation of the backup issue be within it?

I think the situation is analogous to the company giving the employee a big unwarranted pay raise, and then the employee lazily not doing more work, then the company firing the employee, but then arguing that at a minimum, the company has a reasonable professional courtesy to give the employee hours for their vacation days, even though it isn't specified within the contract.

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by OOPMan on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @07:37PM (#30002632)
Thank you for your heartwarming tale, it made my day
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by holoduke on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @07:15PM (#30002413)
You could asked for six figures to get it fixed if it's really making such an impact.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by redisman on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @08:11PM (#30002924)
From the company that gave them 2%? Waste of time
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by fersho311 on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @03:12PM (#29999334)
That’s a bit sad, the way you told the story sound like you didn’t make the place better even though you could have.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by squeaky-clean on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @03:25PM (#29999503)
It sounds like they did make the place better, and the company stiffed them and they left and then things were no longer better.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by throw8383833jj on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @03:21PM (#29999453)
are you kidding? he totally made the place better. did his job infinitely better than the job description required and what did he get for all his trouble? a big slap in the face from his boss. of course he left and took his skills with him. most companies just don't know how to recognize and appreciate above average skills/productivity, this is sadly a recurrent feature of many work places.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by taberiand on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @04:36PM (#30000538)
Just once I would like to read one of these stories where the conclusion is "and the company rewarded me with a large bonus and a paid two weeks of leave, and when I came back they had lined up some training and a project plan for me to stabilise what I had built and automate as much of the drudgery as possible"
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by nefitty on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @05:54PM (#30001619)
I tried to force this at a company I was at. I was like a robot, automating as much as possible, anything and everything I touched. Spreadsheets, data loading, surveys, analytics, daily reports. I even built a chrome extension to improve a cash transfer approval workflow.

Weirdly enough, the director that forced me out had been a programmer in a past life. All he could see of me was that I was a cost center on his spreadsheet. He never sat down with me to ask what I did all day. He'd see me in a corner of the office wired in and I guess he assumed I was watching cartoons or something.

Fuck 'em. I left and I'm sure dozens of systems I had built and maintained broke, just by virtue of my company email address being shut down. I did try my best to document what I could and onboard others. There's only so much you can do in two weeks when you have to start with explaining what Firebase and Google Apps Script is to multiple people.

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by brokenmachine on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @06:03PM (#30001728)
And after the program was stabilised and automated, I was fired.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by taberiand on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @06:54PM (#30002237)
Hopefully more like, after the program was stabilised and automated I leveraged my new skills and left for more money elsewhere and on good terms with my company.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by GekkePrutser on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @09:28PM (#30003633)
This is kinda what happened to me. Not quite the same way but I got well rewarded and still work there to this day.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by Tushon on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @03:19PM (#29999422)
How is that your conclusion? OP had a number of things that were improved in-scope of his role, specifically cited this was before offsite version control, and that his replacement somehow deleted things.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by allenu on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @03:22PM (#29999457)
It sounded like their workplace essentially eliminated any incentive to go beyond expectations after their job was redefined.
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by bqmjjx0kac on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @04:52PM (#30000765)
I think people are misunderstanding your comment.

If I'm reading correctly, you're saying that it's sad that their hard work went to waste.

Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by lavp on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @07:37PM (#30002628)
You can definitely interpret that both ways
Re:I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone by rackjack on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @03:53PM (#29999970)
Not really his problem.