That is already telling.
This is obviously off-the-cuff, undetailed thinking here, but an approach like this might make sense in the future.
(Note: There are alternatives to YouTube that already use WebTorrent to make videos harder to delete, but their content is incredibly hard to sort through. Instead of improving on YouTube by making filters optional, they just didn’t implement filters at all. So most of the videos in search results are scams or political)
Dead comment that I can’t vouch for asks:
>Why do you need Blockchain for this?
I’m not sure if you need blockchain. I’d avoid it if possible because it’s expensive and slow. But you might not have a choice if you need a censorship resistant distributed log.
>Why can't you just cross post on Rumble with the exact same title and make an extension which replaces 404d videos with the equivalently titled Rumble video?
I’ve never heard of Rumble, but many have built YouTube alternatives only to run out of funding and end up on this list: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Deathwatch#Dead_as_a_...
Hell even my team has built a shitty YouTube alternative during a 1-day hackathon. The videos are downloaded peer-to-peer with webrtc and my site has better clustering/search than most *tubes; but of course the site is dead today and all the videos are inaccessible: https://github.com/NavinF/NodeVid.com
Which is sad, because some of that stuff indeed has potential and should be used more (IPFS), but it cannot happen unless people take it seriously.
Now, I can't tell if what I'm saying is satire. But it does, at least, make sense, right? Because they're all terms you know and have familiarity with.
Don't dismiss something simply because you don't understand it. There's a ton of complexity in Web3. There's a ton of complexity in Web2; you just understand the complexity well enough to the point of it no longer being complex.
Maybe its satire. Or, maybe; Then they laugh at you. Its hard to say at this stage.
I can't help think that for a hackathon, it's a pretty good use case for something like this. The organizers can then take the files from wherever and post them to their YouTube channel for exposure and monetization if that's what they want.
I'd be furious if I ended up posting some video, mandatory on YouTube, for a fun week-end hackathon and ending up with my entire YouTube account suspended. So if I ever do end up organizing a hackathon or similar event, I'll keep in mind that it might be better to ask for the video files as just files and then handling the posting on my side so as to not expose participants to this risk.
If participants want to ensure their names are linked to the video bits used from their films, they can go through the all the blockhainy-web3-y trouble, if not they can just zip them.
I can't tell if this is satire.
Similarly, an NFT doesn’t prevent everyone from accessing it so you can’t force people to pay for the cost of their access and it doesn’t protect your ownership — that’s done by copyright laws enforced by the government.
The only thing a blockchain is adding is the chance for people who sell blockchains to make money while distracting you from the real problems you’ll need to deal with either way.
IPFS has no blockchain, and the overhead of transferring files is incredibly low thanks to lib-p2p.
> Similarly, an NFT doesn’t prevent everyone from accessing it so you can’t force people to pay for the cost of their access and it doesn’t protect your ownership — that’s done by copyright laws enforced by the government.
By itself it does not, coupled with other mechanisms, it can. Access control to personal files is very much removed from where I expect government to exercise their own control.
Filecoin does, however, while you'll note was proposed as part of this. The problem with IPFS is the general one with P2P: there aren't enough people who are going to use their storage + network capacity to provide a CDN for strangers, especially with the personal legal risks to do so, and it's slower than a high-quality professionally-managed service like YouTube or Vimeo. That means that if you care about long-term availability, you need to pay for hosting and that likely will also require paying for bandwidth if the content becomes popular and/or you want to provide a competitive experience rather than simply pure archival.
> > Similarly, an NFT doesn’t prevent everyone from accessing it so you can’t force people to pay for the cost of their access and it doesn’t protect your ownership — that’s done by copyright laws enforced by the government.
> By itself it does not, coupled with other mechanisms, it can.
Yes, but that's like saying that if you buy a chainsaw and a loaf of bread you can make sandwiches. Either way you need to build and operate a system to store the video and provide authenticated access so the NFT is simply making that more expensive and adding additional failure modes.
> Access control to personal files is very much removed from where I expect government to exercise their own control.
This is like saying you don't expect the government to control access to your house. That's technically true but only if you define the problem so narrowly to omit the fact that the government provides the legal framework and enforcement which allows you to do so reasonably. For example, if you're trying to get paid for content someone will likely try to snag a copy and present it somewhere else with their ads; blockchains can't prevent that and will limit revenue only to the extent that the viewers care to validate an NFT. What does work is that you can send something like a DMCA request and get a prompt response from a hosting service because they know that the penalties for not doing so are enforced by the government rather than just your personal clout.
Maybe I'm getting old. Scary world out there.
The cryptospace is wild, and web3 is a wild west, but some parts make sense, and they’re a bit awesome!
> Host it on what? Pair it with ETH? Like...the cryptocurrency? How does that work? How does that make money?
You host it in IPFS, which is basically just a bunch of running nodes that store files using a hashing system that results in these identifiers (CID) per file. This CID always reflects the same file, no matter if you store it or I store it or we both store parts of it.
Let’s say I upload my video file, and then send it to you on IPFS so now we both host it.
Then, I decide to NFT it. So I register a contract on the Ethereum blockchain (for which I have to pay in Ethereum, the currency) that points to this CID.
At this point, this particular video, its hash on the IPFS and the ETH blockchain entry under my wallet, give me a distributed right of ownership for those that choose to respect it.
As per how it makes money, I have no idea, it all feels like a giant scam to me. The money aspect is a more cryptobro oriented question than a technical one.
I guess for a different comparison you could be a professional truck driver and still be completely unaware that we have cars that almost drive themselves with the right tech and conditions. It's just not something you normally come across in your line of work.
I love it :)))
Web3 is beyond the hill of magic vs technology for me currently, it's on the tolearn list. Is that actually the alternative to YouTube?
That said, there's other (centralized) video hosting solutions you can go to if you're less technically inclined. Vimeo is a popular choice.
It's the web3 part that's not on my radar yet, honestly I'm happy with YouTube as-is until someone figures out discoverability
this could be a place to start! makes it easy to upload content and host it on IPFS.
Service wise ofc happy to pay for anything that makes my life easier but they appear to be charging by the storage?
IPFS is a way to host and distribute files. It's not free. To have files distributed they need to be hosted somewhere. You can do this yourself by hosting an IPFS server at home or in the cloud. On IPFS this is called a "pin". Pinata host and serves your files to pin them on IPFS. That's why their list of services is that of a cloud provider.
From their pricing/plans page (https://www.pinata.cloud/pricing)
Fast Global CDN
100GB bandwidth included per month
Additional bandwidth at $0.05/gb
Unlimited storage at $0.15/gb
Here's a blog article that covers Pinata's primary use case - web3 hosting for NFTs https://medium.com/pinata/the-file-requirements-for-nfts-a20...