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Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by marginalia_nu on Monday December 06, 2021 @06:39AM (#29458505)
I can't tell if this is satire.
Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by isaacimagine on Monday December 06, 2021 @06:43AM (#29458546)
I think it is, but I can't tell if this is satire.
Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by dathinab on Monday December 06, 2021 @06:51AM (#29458595)
Same for me, it feels like it's in a uncanny valley between clearly satiric and something some (not all/many) people (from the Web3.0 & DeFi) community might say.
Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by JKCalhoun on Monday December 06, 2021 @07:57AM (#29459144)
You and several parent comments can't tell it's satire.

That is already telling.

Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by dtech on Monday December 06, 2021 @06:54AM (#29458624)
Just another example of Poe's law
Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by bryanrasmussen on Monday December 06, 2021 @06:59AM (#29458667)
Poe's law: take the absinthe, or the absinthe takes you!
Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by b0sk on Monday December 06, 2021 @08:04AM (#29459210)
Poe’s law
Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by adamdonahue on Monday December 06, 2021 @08:13AM (#29459304)
There's an opportunity here. Put the video on both YouTube and a blockchain, make it easy to find on the latter via the YouTube URI, then when one discovers a non-working link you YouTube you can pivot to the blockchain-based backup. Once enough people know about this hack it then, with a browser plug-in, censorship be gone!

This is obviously off-the-cuff, undetailed thinking here, but an approach like this might make sense in the future.

Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by s_dev on Monday December 06, 2021 @08:20AM (#29459357)
How does a YouTube 404 turn in to a working link? You don't control what You Tube displays on their 404.
Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by NavinF on Monday December 06, 2021 @08:41AM (#29459581)
Easy: Your extension looks at the HTTP status code and if it’s 404, query the distributed hash table for another copy of the video. Then replace the <video> element on the page with a different one that plays bytes from your callback function (Media Source Extensions) just like WebTorrent.

(Note: There are alternatives to YouTube that already use WebTorrent to make videos harder to delete, but their content is incredibly hard to sort through. Instead of improving on YouTube by making filters optional, they just didn’t implement filters at all. So most of the videos in search results are scams or political)

Dead comment that I can’t vouch for asks:

>Why do you need Blockchain for this?

I’m not sure if you need blockchain. I’d avoid it if possible because it’s expensive and slow. But you might not have a choice if you need a censorship resistant distributed log.

>Why can't you just cross post on Rumble with the exact same title and make an extension which replaces 404d videos with the equivalently titled Rumble video?

I’ve never heard of Rumble, but many have built YouTube alternatives only to run out of funding and end up on this list: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Deathwatch#Dead_as_a_...

Hell even my team has built a shitty YouTube alternative during a 1-day hackathon. The videos are downloaded peer-to-peer with webrtc and my site has better clustering/search than most *tubes; but of course the site is dead today and all the videos are inaccessible: https://github.com/NavinF/NodeVid.com

Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by jtbayly on Monday December 06, 2021 @09:20AM (#29460003)
But then you're relying on the IPFS version to accurately say which Youtube video URL it is equivalent to. I could upload any number of videos claiming to be the same as your video, right?
Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by NavinF on Monday December 06, 2021 @09:51AM (#29460365)
True. Maybe that can be solved with an oracle[1] that runs the command “yt-dlp <url> -o - | sha256sum”. So every file you upload must be identical to the YouTube video at the same link.

1: https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/oracles/

Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by peteradio on Monday December 06, 2021 @08:29AM (#29459460)
Maybe get a mechanism of law passed which makes it difficult for platforms to sweep content from view in cases of changes of moderation. If youtube decies Charlie Bit Me is violent and they know longer wish host it, then they must provide some sort of redirect if video owner provides. I don't know?
Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by rnotaro on Monday December 06, 2021 @08:09PM (#29467992)
Fun fact, Charlie Bit Me owners actually sold the video as an NFT and removed it from Youtube.
Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by mypastself on Monday December 06, 2021 @08:30AM (#29459467)
Presumably with the browser plugin. This would of course require all your users installing it.
Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by gifnamething on Monday December 06, 2021 @09:05AM (#29459844)
This idea has provenance with SponsorBlock
Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by sharklazer on Monday December 06, 2021 @08:52AM (#29459695)
You can’t store a video on the blockchain. How incredibly bad of a design would that be! The ledger is shared. People typically mint the hyperlink as an NFT.
Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by adamdonahue on Monday December 06, 2021 @12:14PM (#29462508)
Right-o.
Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by toyg on Monday December 06, 2021 @08:45AM (#29459624)
I would have taken it seriously before the "obsolete" bit gave it away as satire.

Which is sad, because some of that stuff indeed has potential and should be used more (IPFS), but it cannot happen unless people take it seriously.

Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by ajross on Monday December 06, 2021 @09:05AM (#29459836)
FWIW: I think that causality is backwards. People "take seriously" things that are used for serious things, never the reverse. The history of technology is that everything starts as a toy or a hack.
Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by gonab on Monday December 06, 2021 @08:42AM (#29459594)
Like any good satire, half truth.
Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by 015a on Monday December 06, 2021 @05:09PM (#29466339)
Why are you using new web 3.0 platforms ruled by distributed money? Put your video on AWS S3, give it a domain name, and put CloudFront in front of it. With a horizontal load balancer and autoscaling, resource provisioning isn't an issue. That tech is great, and web 3.0 isn't necessary. Don't trust the distributed web, trust AWS!

Now, I can't tell if what I'm saying is satire. But it does, at least, make sense, right? Because they're all terms you know and have familiarity with.

Don't dismiss something simply because you don't understand it. There's a ton of complexity in Web3. There's a ton of complexity in Web2; you just understand the complexity well enough to the point of it no longer being complex.

Maybe its satire. Or, maybe; Then they laugh at you. Its hard to say at this stage.

Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by speedgoose on Monday December 06, 2021 @06:54AM (#29458617)
It must be.
Re:YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon v... by ehutch79 on Monday December 06, 2021 @08:53AM (#29459718)
Poe's law