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Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by llamataboot on Monday November 15, 2021 @05:03AM (#29225671)
There are many paths into depression, and many paths out of it. But as someone that once fell into a decade+ of depression and could not get out, I think that one key is to try to get back on top of it quickly.

It's a bit like getting further and further out of shape that way, because of the changes of thought patterns and self-image and socialization patterns etc - the further you go the more the very things you need to get out are being undercut.

(And yet, just like that example, you can always start where you are at, and sometimes even a bit of change can be more dramatic and exhilarating than you think it would be - perhaps walking up the stairs without getting winded feels like a huge victory, if you aren't focused on how long it will be until you run that marathon)

In my own experience, and in working with people with severe depression, I have found two things to be almost universal. One is that the pathway out involves better noticing of small shifts in consciousness in the present moment - depression is a flatland, yet even within it there are small tiny windows of light that can be noticed and built on.

The other is that, and this especially applies to people that live inside their head, are very smart, very analytical, etc...the body itself provides a pathway out. Without even getting into somatic psychology, the act of doing things where one is experiencing felt sensation in the body provides a ground for consciousness outside of the grey hazy thought world.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by notacoward on Monday November 15, 2021 @08:47AM (#29227272)
> the further you go the more the very things you need to get out are being undercut.

One specific part of this is the difficulty of finding a therapist (in the US). I've had to go through that recently on behalf of a family member. It involves a lot of effort to find and contact providers, talking to strangers about personal things, having most of them reject your case, etc. This has been difficult enough even for me. The people who most need help - especially those with executive function or social anxiety issues - are also most likely to be defeated by the difficulty of getting it. That's a sick system. Schools and employers, who are often the sources of stress inducing or exacerbating mental health problems, could and should do a lot more to make the process easier.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by SamoyedFurFluff on Monday November 15, 2021 @09:11AM (#29227574)
This problem is worsened by the pandemic btw. The demand for mental healthcare has never been higher, but the healthcare system is breaking under they strain as workers are also dealing with burnout. (Also, hospitals and insurance rarely give due to psych it deserves.)
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by foxyv on Monday November 15, 2021 @12:43PM (#29230101)
What is worse, so many therapists in the USA are barely competent to handle even basic issues and there is no way to weed out the bad apples if you even get to choose. Insurance doesn't cover adequate care. (Usually 2-3 sessions a YEAR) Also, since it's a part of our horrible medical system it's usually suffering from the same opaque billing and corruption that our hospitals do.
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by echoradio on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @04:53PM (#29246795)
> Insurance doesn't cover adequate care. (Usually 2-3 sessions a YEAR)

This is incorrect. The passage of the ACA required insurance companies to lift the limits on visits for mental health.

As someone who has dealt with the mental health system in the U.S. for 20+ years, I remember the time before the ACA and after — a big difference.

But even with insurance, it’s not a guarantee to find someone who will treat you. I’ve had the experience of calling a long list of providers who accepted my insurance, but weren’t taking new patients.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by Jeff_Brown on Monday November 15, 2021 @05:32AM (#29225824)
In my early twenties I had a virtuous flywheel effect going, and didn't realize it until it abruptly stopped. It was shocking. Now I take very seriously how dependent I am on my external circumstances for what might look like intrinsic motivation.
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by jan_Inkepa on Monday November 15, 2021 @06:54AM (#29226353)
COVID lockdown totally messed up my life momentum on that front - I had a pretty carefully constructed routine and losing that was bad - I'm not so robust otherwise it turns out. Still haven't gotten my shit back in order. Flywheel is a good metaphor!
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by vagrantJin on Monday November 15, 2021 @07:51AM (#29226716)
On the contrary, lockdown helped me get off liquor. I had left my previous gig due to burnout and had taken alcohol as a coping device. For some reason, the monotonous routine and long commute took a lot out of me personally.

Still not sure what caused it exactly. Lockdown made me get some control of my life, schedule it on my terms and it was liberating. I literally felt lighter and more at ease, back to balanced normality as some might put it.

I'm afaid I still have no full grasp of what is going on in my own mind and body. At least not in terms that would be scientifically acceptable.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by orzig on Monday November 15, 2021 @08:51AM (#29227325)
> *For some reason*, the monotonous routine and long commute took a lot out of *me personally* [emphasis mine]

I want to make sure you don't have any lingering feelings of ambivalence or shame from that conclusion: Long commutes take a lot out of everyone (or at least the average person). It's one of the most consistent happiness findings.

- "we find that people with longer commuting time report systematically lower subjective well-being." [0]

- "Couples in which one partner commutes for longer than 45 minutes are 40 percent likelier to divorce." [1]

- " a person with a one-hour commute has to earn 40 percent more money to be as satisfied with life as someone who walks to the office. " [2]

You're not weird, and it's certainly not your fault. As we all get back into normal life, I want to make sure that we're clear on that. Maybe you have to do it, and we all have to do painful things, but it's not your fault that it sucks.

[0] https://ideas.repec.org/p/zur/iewwpx/151.html

[1] https://slate.com/business/2011/05/long-commutes-cause-obesi...

[2] https://scienceblogs.com/cortex/2010/03/30/commuting

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by quantified on Monday November 15, 2021 @04:08PM (#29232779)
A 20-30 minute walk as the commute feels intrinsically healthy.
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by bigbaguette on Monday November 15, 2021 @07:36AM (#29226619)
Lockdowns messed me up real bad too, and with hindsight I actually noticed how our whole beings adapted subconsciously to this nothingness. And this is equally matched by the difficulty to re-adapt when we reopened. Still rough after a month already.
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by dorchadas on Monday November 15, 2021 @07:38AM (#29226634)
It's funny, because lockdown actually helped me get out of a funk. I wasn't having to wake up any more to go into work at half five, and was able to get into good sleeping/eating habits, as well as exercise habits both at home and when the gym reopened. Granted, I was blessed to have a job that kept me paid without doing a lot of work, so I had plenty of time to pursue interests and exercise and healthy lifestyle. Going back into the school full-time in August killed me.
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by lifeformed on Monday November 15, 2021 @07:43AM (#29226662)
What was the flywheel for you?
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by Jeff_Brown on Monday November 15, 2021 @07:23PM (#29234898)
It was school. The combination of Mind-expanding experiences and motivated people to share them with.

Then I dropped out to start a band, which went nowhere. It took years to get back on the horse.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by podgaj on Monday November 15, 2021 @08:30AM (#29227089)
> depression is a flatland, yet even within it there are small tiny windows of light that can be noticed and built on.

Nothing but toxic positivity. I have depression and three suicide attempts. What stops me now? Not caring if I am depressed and learning from the lessons it gives me.

Depression is only a disease or a disorder because our society does not give you the time to understand it and listen to it. Nope, got to get back to work otherwise out on the street with you!

I love my depression, it lets me see a world so few others see. No less true than the common or manic world. And that depressive world still acts upon the other worlds but you all just do not see it.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by llamataboot on Monday November 15, 2021 @05:16PM (#29233590)
I would agree with you that most of our mental and emtional health conditions are both within us and within a context, and that being “crazy” can be a perfectly good and even useful and healthy response to an insane world.

But I assure you, I had no desire to stay in the state I was in which was dull grey, numb, dissociated, and isolated. I spent enough years meditating with it that I wasn’t intensely suffering without exactly, though i can’t say I ever got to acceptance and peace. But I wanted something different for my one finite life.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by podgaj on Monday November 15, 2021 @08:12PM (#29235357)
It’s not about desire. It’s about acceptance. You don’t desire to be in it or out of it, you accept it and understand it. What I’m getting at I can’t really describe in words because it’s more of an experience. But for people who have depression (not sadness) It is a therapy in an understanding that works.

When you accept something you don’t need to be different. And the burden you are released of is immense. And that is when you’re suffering goes away. You’re still depressed, but you’re not suffering.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by mbrodersen on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @03:08AM (#29250261)
It sounds to me that you are describing the Stoic ideas of acceptance or the Acceptance Theory way of dealing with mental issues. It all works.
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by GavinMcG on Monday November 15, 2021 @01:29PM (#29230724)
Plenty of other people do not love their depression, and find it painful and limiting. Dismissing that experience as rooted in "toxic positivity" isn't fair: it's perfectly legitimate to desire a feeling of well-being.
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by podgaj on Monday November 15, 2021 @08:09PM (#29235313)
I don’t love it in a way that I crave it. I love It’s because it is. It’s a total acceptance. It can come and go out of my life and I don’t care. It’s just depression. I am not depressed, there is depression.

And I wanna make the clear distinction between what most people here are calling depression is not depression but is in fact sadness.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by porker on Monday November 15, 2021 @07:57AM (#29226783)
> The other is that, and this especially applies to people that live inside their head, are very smart, very analytical, etc...the body itself provides a pathway out. Without even getting into somatic psychology, the act of doing things where one is experiencing felt sensation in the body provides a ground for consciousness outside of the grey hazy thought world.

I second this. To me it makes a big difference but it has to be kept up; it's not a "done and you'll feel better for a few weeks" but a daily step to take. If it works for you and you haven't explored Peter Levine and somatic experiencing, that can be a good next step to see what your body responds to.

Unfortunately none of this helps with my seasonal depression which hit last week. Tried light boxes and vitamin D in previous years - no relief through any. Only 4-5 months to get through...

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by Aeolun on Monday November 15, 2021 @08:03AM (#29226837)
Can move somewhere it’s always sunny? Not that that really helps if my experience is any indication, but I’m only one person.

I tried a sunlight lamp at 10000lm, which was impressive while it was on, but stepping out of my room in the evening messed with me so hard that I never used it again.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by orzig on Monday November 15, 2021 @09:38AM (#29227888)
I'd recommend continuing to play with it - I use sunlight lamps and there are definitely levels that work for me without wrecking my night vision for the rest of the house. Of course, you can also brighten the rest of the house, even during the evening!
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by porker on Monday November 15, 2021 @01:29PM (#29230717)
No ability to move as my partner's job is geographically restricted. We've moved to the sunniest part of the UK already!
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by sjg007 on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @06:59AM (#29239558)
You are supposed to use a sunlamp for only 30mins a day first thing in the morning. Is that what you did?
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by quantified on Monday November 15, 2021 @04:10PM (#29232812)
The felt experience of exercise is incredibly important. Not just the feeling aspects but the results on the physiology, which are not completely distinct from psychology. Though you can be enormously depressed even while hitting the gym hard 4 times a week.
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by stevewodil on Monday November 15, 2021 @08:02AM (#29226819)
No experience trying this myself, but there are people who do "light therapy"
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by agumonkey on Monday November 15, 2021 @06:05AM (#29226021)
I see a stupid principle in nature. Never let any system deviate out of the mean.

The sooner you invest in restoring good habits, good spirit, even if life sucks even if you dont feel like it it really is the shortest path to normalcy. Once you're too far off the middle there seems to be no end to the bottom, thing only get worse, and your brain stays in negative rationalisation mode potentially forever. Also our minds are very relativistic and you can always find a reason why your pain is impossible to fix.

I think we share the same conclusion.

Especially about benefits of the somatic path.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by loceng on Monday November 15, 2021 @06:18AM (#29226122)
Pain captures our attention, negativity feeds pain.

It makes sense: pay attention to your body if you're injuring yourself, and stop moving forward if you keep injuring yourself blindly-unskillfully moving forward in life continuing to injure yourself (and likely others). And the reason negativity feeds pain seems to be at least two-fold: everything in the body is connected and so emotional pain uses at least some of the same pathways as physical pain, and this is perhaps how or where the mind-body connection interfaces - being able to read off eachother via biofeedback loop; think a negative thought that stresses the body, the body tightens causing discomfort that then stresses the body-mind - and the reverse: learning to visualize an infinitely fast beam of healing light encompassing you and forcing its way through whole being as part of self-directed positive reinforcement visualization practice; in part this is a practice of getting as much of your mind active and flowing at once, which can be tough from a longtime stagnant-depressed mind due to suppressed or repressed feelings or sensations or unprocessed trauma.

TL;DR - Mind-body: "Pay attention to me or I'm going to force you to [learn why you're in pain, how to heal it, and how to stop from continuing to hurt from it]!"

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by ChicagoBoy11 on Monday November 15, 2021 @08:52AM (#29227338)
I think one of the huge milestones is getting someone who is in a depressive state of mind to recognize that their lived experience is a function of this cognitive state and may even, in many situations, be a manifestation of an actual condition. I think especially really smart folks who become depressive can easily fall into a trap of rationalizing their depression. One of the toughest things is getting to a point to recognize that the entire body of "data" that your mind is using to make those rationalizations, and the rationalization itself, doesn't fall "outside" the depression. It's such a tricky thing because of it.
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by alexpetralia on Monday November 15, 2021 @07:43PM (#29235075)
When I was depressed, I distinctly remembering having discovered: "I cannot think myself out of this!"

Unlike most things in my life, which I could think myself out of (quite successfully!), this one I could not. That had a pretty profound effect on my core epistemology thereafter.

The thing which really helped me was retreating to my friends and family (who, thankfully, could get me out of my own head).

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by onecommentman on Monday November 15, 2021 @11:56PM (#29237020)
Congratulations on discovering that great truth on your own. You are more than your brain/mind. The sooner anyone experiences (not derives or speculates) that truth the better. It is a vaccination of sorts against a whole host of mental maladies, including depression.

The brain/mind by itself can’t deeply heal the brain/mind. But the heart, soul, spirit, etc. (topics rarely mentioned on HN) can. If you can’t solve a problem in the original mind space, transform the problem into another non-mind space where it is more easily solved, then return to the original mind space. See, it’s just math.

That presumes you can connect with your heart/soul/spirit/ elan vital/etc.. Probably the first place to start. If you’ve lost that ability, you really need to reclaim it. The rest often follows pretty naturally.

There are lots of paths to follow to reclaim the connection. Choose wisely. (Hint: they won’t ask for a CC number up front)

And I will now take my robe and staff and depart. :-)

Congratulations again.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by nextaccountic on Monday November 15, 2021 @06:48AM (#29226321)
> But as someone that once fell into a decade+ of depression and could not get out, I think that one key is to try to get back on top of it quickly.

Hi, I'm not a native speaker and Google-fu didn't help with this, so.. what do you mean by "get back on top of it"? What actions does it entails?

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by kreeben on Monday November 15, 2021 @07:10AM (#29226455)
I think what they may have meant is, don't wait until you are certain you have hit rock bottom and then start to work on the things that will make you feel better, do it now. Not five minutes from now. Now now. Because there is no bottom. Your inner void in infinite. And the longer you fall the longer is the climb upwards.

Or I just read too much into what they said and then projected my own knowledge of my personal misery onto the topic at hand.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by knome on Monday November 15, 2021 @07:17AM (#29226490)
>get back on top of it

'on top of it' indicates to 'be in control'

the 'get back' to 'regain'

as used this is then 'regain control of yourself', rather than allowing the depression to continue its course.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by podgaj on Monday November 15, 2021 @08:34AM (#29227132)
And to this point, why do we fear depression so much? Why is it not something to welcome instead of fighting and trying to control? Maybe the fighting is what is causing the problem?

I will tell you when I ended my battle with depression, my suffering ended. My depression as still there but my suffering was gone.

(Please read my other posts here)

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by sergiosgc on Monday November 15, 2021 @06:58AM (#29226377)
Not a native speaker either, so take this with a grain of salt. I read it as acting promptly, staying ahead of the problem, do not postpone remedial action.
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by maxerickson on Monday November 15, 2021 @07:16AM (#29226488)
It's based on the idiom "stay on top of things" which has lots of explanatory resources (but apparently no clear etymology).
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by nextaccountic on Monday November 15, 2021 @08:33AM (#29227131)
> To “stay on top of” something means to be continuously aware of it and give it your regular attention.

Oh, cool, didn't know it! Yeah, giving regular attention to one's mental health, and being proactive in treating things as they appear, is a good advice.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by wombatmobile on Monday November 15, 2021 @07:03AM (#29226403)
"get back on top of it" is a symbolic form of speech.

Picture two wrestlers. The one on top is in control. The one on the bottom is powerless, subjugated.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by runeg on Monday November 15, 2021 @12:26PM (#29229884)
I tend to use urbandictionary.com a lot if I come across an idiom or slang. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=get%20back%2...

('Get back on it' and 'Get back on top of it' can be used in the same context.

'Get' is more in the context of a verb for motion/movement/to do as opposed to acquire. Not sure if this helps.)

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by pbrw on Monday November 15, 2021 @05:35AM (#29225840)
> the act of doing things where one is experiencing felt sensation in the body provides a ground for consciousness outside of the grey hazy thought world.

Can give some examples of such activities?

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by mtsr on Monday November 15, 2021 @06:08AM (#29226042)
Also music (making or actieve listening).

Outdoors activities that might not quite be exercise, but that offer sounds, smells, feelings such as the wind in your face.

Exercise is extra nice because it tends to occupy the mind, keeping dark thoughts out. But things like playing music or drawing can offer similar escapes from thoughts.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by Dudeman112 on Monday November 15, 2021 @09:28AM (#29227773)
Shit, doesn't even have to be an "activity" properly.

Just sitting on the grass/sand/snow (if the weather isn't utter crap) is real pleasant. Even more so if it's after exercising.

It's no wonder people find themselves stressed when they never take any time to actually just chill.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by hutzlibu on Monday November 15, 2021 @12:38PM (#29230040)
I live in a area where most people seem to live close on depression most of the time and I found them to look the most happy, when it is raining and everything washed away.
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by Aeolun on Monday November 15, 2021 @08:10AM (#29226900)
Literally anything, in my experience. When I was in this situation I did not feel like doing anything, I was lying at home in bed, so I’d just say yes to everything that people wanted to do with me.

It’s easier if you have people around to pull you along. I can’t imagine motivating myself to do something.

But for example, just carrying groceries counts like a win, since it got you out of the house.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by brazzy on Monday November 15, 2021 @06:10AM (#29226063)
Exercise, walking around, being outside in nature, cooking and eating proper meals, sex, cuddling.
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by podgaj on Monday November 15, 2021 @12:33PM (#29229980)
I wonder why they didn’t try these things with me before the suggested electro shock therapy?

In other words, please stop. To people with depression this is an insult.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by brazzy on Tuesday November 16, 2021 @02:40PM (#29245422)
Maybe don't insult people whose experience with depression is not exactly the same as yours?
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by podgaj on Wednesday November 17, 2021 @06:46AM (#29251768)
Because if that stuff helps them they do not have depression, but they are experiencing sadness. They are not the same but everyone in this thread is treating it the same.

We should not be pathologizing sadness.

https://www.healthline.com/health/depression/depression-vs-s...

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by brazzy on Thursday November 18, 2021 @05:29AM (#29263989)
Gatekeeping depression, really?

Your source does not support your claim ("if that stuff helps them they do not have depression"). In fact, it contradicts your claim since it says "Lifestyle changes can also help you feel better if you’re experiencing depression."

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by llamataboot on Monday November 15, 2021 @05:12PM (#29233544)
For me it was contact improv, which had the benefits of other humans and touch as well as continual challenges to proprioception and balance and gravity as well as some flow state (which then become a journey of using somatic experiencing and other modalities to do trauma work)

But literally any bodily sensation can be helpful - one of the most usual reasons people give for self harm and cutting for example is that they can feel something. When i was at my most depressed, I used to walk around in the middle of winter with light clothes on (not in a freezing to death dangerous way, just in a wanting intense sensation to focus the mind on something immediate way)

I would say anything that encourages you to pay attention to your body in the moment (requires coordination) and also gets some exercise in can be a good doorway. But so can the breeze on your skin.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by the-dude on Monday November 15, 2021 @07:22AM (#29226526)
I am not in the target demographic, but I started swimming this year. It feels ... ehhh ... intense. Can't find the right word.

What I like especially is that you can get yourself really tired, but you don't overheat or sweat. Also it feels more complete than cycling or running. Copious showering is part of the experience.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by laurent92 on Monday November 15, 2021 @08:51AM (#29227336)
How do you withstand the cold contact of the water? Part of the depression is the intense lack of bravery to the most comical point, and yet very real.

So I went to Australia and started farming, and after a few rage moments (over 6 months), I was back to happy and 15% body fat (ie excellent). But it’s hard to isolate the root cause since travels imply many moving parts, sun, outdoor exercise, one of them being the absolute constant flow of good news, getting hired as a farmer for the same price as a French engineer, getting hired in a startup and receiving yearly bonuses after 3 months at the same time as everyone, having stock options that keep on rising. Of course I felt better, but I’m afraid it was just the ridiculous sudden wealth. Which is very different from having found happiness.

Back to France and I have been in the horrible mindset for 8 more years, intensely angry at friends family and life…

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by the-dude on Monday November 15, 2021 @09:03AM (#29227466)
Our municipal pools have 'warm water' hours where the pool is heated to 34 degrees Celsius I believe.
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by mongol on Monday November 15, 2021 @05:40AM (#29225869)
Exercise
Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by loceng on Monday November 15, 2021 @06:06AM (#29226026)
Yoga, massage, Wim Hof method, saunas, acupuncture, water fasting, hiking, etc.

And then there are a number of plant medicines (or other chemicals/entheogens like MDMA, ketamine, Ayahuasca/psilocybin/DMT, kambo, hape, etc) that temporarily alter your sensitivities, your connection or experience with sensory systems - which in part can be healing due to providing you a strong new perspective via the contrast and memory of that contrast opening up new possibilities - leading to the opening of your mind and heart; Ayahuasca and other are also known to have compound(s) in them that perpetuate or facilitate neuronal growth, meaning new pathways more rapidly being able to form, allowing possibility that if deeply entrenched, stuck in say a state of depression, new pathways and logic gates can or will open; this is where the current spiritual-ceremonial-psychedelic community fails currently, in adequately supporting the integration work - as with temporary separation from ego (arguably eventually possible to lead to ego death or ego dissolution) you can tap into unhealed/unprocessed emotional trauma that's been being suppressed at or fully since a childhood trauma (that you likely didn't beforehand understand as being traumatic) - which you may be able to process partly to fully on your own - but you may have extreme difficulty at some point, or not have the precise guidance to allow you to quickly get passed a block; for example there's a specific sound therapy developed nearly 70 years ago in France that is perhaps the only therapy to unblock a certain type of energetic flow/processing block. And in my own brutal experience with healing to reconnect to my body, in the process of opening my mind and heart, I also reconnected to my physical body and the immense level of physical pain from injuries I had accumulated throughout my life - now 38 - the pain level being overwhelming for my nervous system only soon after getting LASIK eye surgery 7 years ago, the damage caused to everyone's corneas that get it as the corneas can't heal properly contrary to the propaganda by the industry - where it was LASIK that finally "broke the camel's back" - initially causing a strong tension and pain down the right side of my neck, along with a strong-constant general agitation, but where that evolved to central sensitization and hyperalgesia - a hypersensitivity to pain, where all sensations in my body were amplified to 100% of my mind or consciousness' ability to perceive pain - severe enough that my executive function has been fucked for the majority of the last 5 years; it's been a rough 5 years, to say the least, however as I've had dozens of stem cell treatments to heal all the sources of pain, injuries, I've gradually been able to reduce the severity of dysfunction and limitations that pain has put on me - though I have more work to do - I'm able to more often to connected to hope.

Re:Depression is more than low mood, it’s a change of consci... by loceng on Monday November 15, 2021 @02:42PM (#29231721)
At least 4 downvoted, lazy people.