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Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by standardUser on Saturday September 11, 2021 @04:08PM (#28495421)
Reminds me of this quote from Barack Obama...

"I'm absolutely confident that for two years if every nation on earth was run by women, you would see a significant improvement across the board on just about everything... living standards and outcomes."

Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by mlboss on Saturday September 11, 2021 @04:41PM (#28495748)
Incompetence is not sexist. Barack Obama is a politician he will say anything that will increase his rating or get more votes.
Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by standardUser on Saturday September 11, 2021 @05:07PM (#28496034)
He said this after his presidency had ended.
Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by IncRnd on Saturday September 11, 2021 @06:19PM (#28496595)
Exactly. If he believed it to the degree he espoused it, he would have put up an actual female candidate for public office. Instead, for decades he ran for various public offices.
Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by ZephyrBlu on Saturday September 11, 2021 @06:28PM (#28496673)
He didn't stop being a public figure after his presidency ended.
Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by jrootabega on Saturday September 11, 2021 @04:42PM (#28495770)
Ah yes, politicians. Known for only speaking the truth and only for the greater good
Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by the_third_wave on Saturday September 11, 2021 @05:16PM (#28496111)
Well, that doesn't speak for his judgement seeing as how 100% women is just as exclusionary as 100% men. It might be the 'right' type of exclusion in the ideological circles he frequents but that doesn't make it true.
Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by simonh on Saturday September 11, 2021 @07:01PM (#28496909)
He didn’t say either that it would be right, or even on balance desirable.
Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by pepperonipizza on Saturday September 11, 2021 @04:51PM (#28495853)
This is the thought I have about the Middle East, that if women would be more in power, a lot of the countries would develop quicker.
Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by IncRnd on Saturday September 11, 2021 @06:17PM (#28496574)
Reminds me of this quote from anyone's grandmother...

"The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence."

Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by gjsman-1000 on Saturday September 11, 2021 @04:34PM (#28495679)
Can we just call that sexism against men? There's nothing innate that makes men or women better for the job (both have strengths and weaknesses) according to scientists; so a balance should be more effective than just replacing one dominance with another.
Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by seunosewa on Sunday September 12, 2021 @06:34AM (#28499968)
There's a different way to think of it. Since most countries are dominated by men, they are already enjoying the benefits of male leadership. Putting women in charge will bring new benefits that men couldn't offer. What he's saying is not so much that women are better leaders, but that they have strengths that complement male leadership we've always had.
Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by standardUser on Saturday September 11, 2021 @05:01PM (#28495947)
Representation within leadership can result in more equitable outcomes for less advantaged groups.
Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by gjsman-1000 on Saturday September 11, 2021 @05:46PM (#28496360)
Obama said not that he wanted a 50/50 split (or more accurate 49/51 split) between men/women (which would be balanced). He said he thought all positions should be women for 2 years.
Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by rolobio on Saturday September 11, 2021 @04:38PM (#28495719)
Exactly how I see it. There are plenty of women who could run it better than men in power, and plenty of women who could run it worse!

Take Elizabeth Holmes for example, proudly proclaimed to the female Steve Jobs. Turns out she’s a lying sociopath. Just because you’re woman (or man) does not make you good or bad.

Especially in a position of power. Power corrupts, regardless of gender.

Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by gmpart on Saturday September 11, 2021 @04:33PM (#28495658)
Catherine the Great, Queen Victoria, Margaret Thatcher, Angela Merkel.

The last one caused the CDU to drop from 40% to 20% in 6 years and is partly responsible for Brexit.

Thatcher has mixed reviews as well.

Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by ben_w on Saturday September 11, 2021 @05:11PM (#28496066)
Merkel has been chancellor for 16 years, and has maintained a longer track record for popularity than any US or UK leader I can remember. She also announced in October 2018 that she wasn’t going to seek a fifth term as Chancellor in the 2021 elections, after which the CDU opinion polls moved very little for 18 months before first going up to 40% for about a year and then going down to 20% now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2021_G...

Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by Cyph0n on Saturday September 11, 2021 @04:38PM (#28495717)
> The last one caused the CDU to drop from 40% to 20% in 6 years and is partly responsible for Brexit.

Excellent example of cherry-picking btw.

Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by pizza on Saturday September 11, 2021 @04:36PM (#28495695)
Merkel responsible for Brexit?
Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by bellyfullofbac on Saturday September 11, 2021 @05:16PM (#28496115)
Merkel is horrible for a lot of things, but your example is a terrible one...

She's a conservative, and the conservative economic doctrine is austerity for the masses, but handouts for businesses. She and her economic minister presided over the Euro crisis terribly, causing hardships in Spain, Italy, Greece. People commited suicide because of it! Since Germany was the biggest economy in Europe of course what Berlin said was what Brussels would parrot.

And I'm glad she said Syrians were welcome, but after many years of telling Germans and other Europeans that they needed to tighten their belts, suddenly she said "we can do it!". It's freaking understandable that the people who've been indoctrinated that without the belt-tightening there'll be nothing left for their pensions are pissed off at the idea that several hundred thousand refugees would be fed, clothed, housed, etc, with their tax money.

Again I'm glad she welcomed the refugees, but after spreading austerity doctrine all over Europe, the populist rightwing reaction is understandable. The rightwing party AfD is now a significant fraction in German state and federal parliaments, if you want to be cruel you can say Merkel did a better job of growing Nazism than a certain previuos German leader who had Europe-conquering ambitions..

Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by simonh on Saturday September 11, 2021 @07:08PM (#28496942)
> causing hardships in Spain, Italy, Greece.

FFS. It’s not as if Germany forced those countries to utterly bork their finances. Suppose Germany had said no, were not lending you money, it belongs to our citizens. What would those countries have done, who else would have helped them? The fact is they got better terms from Germany than anywhere else, and what thanks do the Germans get? So glad us Brits stayed out of all of that.

Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by bellyfullofbac on Sunday September 12, 2021 @02:47AM (#28499121)
https://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/opinion/29krugman.html , but a register-wall will probably prevent you from learning today (that and your cocksuredness about being sure how things really work).
Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by fnord77 on Saturday September 11, 2021 @04:30PM (#28495632)
yeah, look at the great job Margaret Thatcher did
Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by gremloni on Saturday September 11, 2021 @04:43PM (#28495778)
One of the few things I disagree with Barack Obama on. I miss him so much.
Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by standardUser on Saturday September 11, 2021 @05:08PM (#28496048)
Is this idea that representation of less advantaged groups within leadership can lead to more equitable outcomes that disagreeable of an idea?
Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by Zababa on Saturday September 11, 2021 @06:23PM (#28496624)
This is not representation, this is total replacement. I would also dispute "less advantaged groups". Few womens are in prison.
Re:Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable by gremloni on Saturday September 11, 2021 @05:59PM (#28496457)
It’s very context specific to the state of a society but no. I’m specifically referring to women, not all disenfranchised groups.