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Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by foxfired on Friday June 25, 2021 @07:34PM (#27637546)
I do not blame cooler screen for selling this technology to anyone. But I want everyone to consider how much it takes to bring about a technology like this to a grocery store.

If this is any of the big chain groceries, the manager doesn't even have the authority to put a sticker on the glass door. This was vetted by hundreds of people and none of them thought... glass?

Business class tickets were purchased, hotels were booked, months of back and forth, daily meetings. Hundreds of thousands were spent on pilot programs like this one. Still no one thought... glass?

In my opinion, it's a silly idea. But I applaud the person who had this silly idea, built a company around it, got deals with screens, door, glass, and cameras manufacturing companies, and then convinced a grocery chain to buy this for their store.

I would really, really love to have been in that sales pitch meeting.

Edit: What bothers me the most about this, is that it will actually work. Any surface where eyes may fall on, will be replaced with an ad.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by rdiddly on Friday June 25, 2021 @07:51PM (#27637644)
It's an ad platform plain and simple; that's the whole value proposition. So I imagine every pitch, every meeting was about that. And every store that uses it will be doing it to get a cut of the ad revenue. It's true that it's lousy at being glass, but that's like saying smallpox blankets were a lousy way to make friends with Native Americans. The shittiness of it, in other words, was the goal all along, and any resemblance to glass or to helping you in any way was just a concession made to conceal its true nature and hopefully get you to accept it.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by mrobins on Friday June 25, 2021 @08:44PM (#27637972)
Except that moving inventory, and to a lesser extent generating repeat business, is more critical than ancillary ad revenue. If The screens don’t work or the ads aren’t effective, and I don’t open the door to get those high-margin also-bought drinks than they definitely do not achieve the store’s goal.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by jcims on Friday June 25, 2021 @08:58PM (#27638045)
The shoppers are already in the store, presumably to buy from their list. Now the store gets a cut of an ad and the profit from the sale it makes. The digital delivery is going to be amazing for A/B testing of ads because they are going to have near immediate feedback. It's pretty clever in a dystopian hellscape kind of way.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by buu700 on Friday June 25, 2021 @09:29PM (#27638203)
Counterpoint: all else being equal, I'd rather not have these because I think they'd be annoying, so if one of my local grocery stores were to install them I would then give more of my business to the other (largely interchangeable) ones going forward.

You're right that I wouldn't rage quit and leave without doing my shopping the first time I saw these, but I also might not be back. Sure, I'd learn to live with it if every grocery store were to get on board, but in that scenario not having them would become a major competitive advantage.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by bbarnett on Saturday June 26, 2021 @01:35AM (#27639389)
Some people really care about pricing, others don't.

There are 'bargin' stores in my area, and higher end stores. The higher end stores have lots more bio stuff to buy, and other fancy goods, but also stock major brands of everything else.

Even though the product is the same, the pricing is 15% average more expensive for those common products. I suspect they get away with it, because you're already there, and I never see a full shopping cart there.

The also have baggers. The bargin store does not.

My point? The bargin store might shave even more off, with enough ads. And those people buying full carts?

Might be even happier with the savings.

I think as with many things, those struggling with money can't care one iota (not don't, but can't), and just do what saves the most, no matter the cost to society, or themselves.

Survival first. Rent first. Savings first.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by buu700 on Saturday June 26, 2021 @01:51AM (#27639485)
Makes sense. As I said, all else being equal I'd rather not have these. Presented with a situation like Kindle devices, in which the ad-supported item is cheaper, the choice is a little harder.

Thinking more about the product, there's probably also a long-term vision wherein it becomes more useful than it is today. e.g. maybe it automatically handles tracking quantities and greys out the item photo when it's out (and alerts them to restock), shows prices in a more user-friendly way than regular shelves, makes promotions more prominent (but hopefully not too obnoxious), slightly reduces labor costs (by automatically updating prices), and allows various user interactivity such as clicking an item to see metadata like nutrition and ingredients. It's easy to make fun of something at an early stage when we're just seeing the tip of the iceberg, but 10 years from now this may become a repeat of the infamous Dropbox thread.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by extrapickles on Saturday June 26, 2021 @03:10AM (#27639835)
You can buy eink shelf labels that have radios in them for the self updating pricing and promotional pricing features. Not sure if they make ones that can handle being in fridge/freezer though (condensation is huge problem in those environments).
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by bbarnett on Saturday June 26, 2021 @06:59AM (#27640860)
I've heard of these, but never seen them in use (Quebec). Probably due to risks, as local law says (when using barcodes, without prices on each prooduct):

Rules of the Accurate Pricing Policy If the pricing error involves a product that costs $10 or less, the product is given to the customer free of charge.

If the pricing error involves a product that costs more than $10, the merchant must sell the item at the advertised price and give the consumer a $10 discount.

If the same pricing error occurs for identical products during the same transaction, the merchant must sell each product at the advertised price, but the $10 discount only applies to one product.

Mistaken updates, or hacking, could be quite costly. Maybe this risk is just perception, but...

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by vharuck on Saturday June 26, 2021 @07:08AM (#27640906)
We've grown up and shopped in a time without these. But the long game is different. If these become ubiquitous or even just common, I'd bet few people care after a couple generations. For example, imagine how ugly telephone poles were to people when first built. But I, having grown up with them everywhere, don't even notice them. They're background noise.

Of course, I'm not thinking this ad-glass company is really playing a long game. They've just happened to move a piece earlier than most.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by jollybean on Friday June 25, 2021 @09:42PM (#27638283)
"The shoppers are already in the store, presumably to buy from their list. "

This isn't really how it works.

If it worked that way then lighting, music, display organization, cleanliness, shelf space, brand, packaging etc. 'would not matter'.

All of those things matter, immensely, at any real scale.

The kinds of comments I'm seeing here are a little bit uncomfortable in this regard, indicate a kind of lack of self-awareness as to consumer (i.e. our own) behaviours.

This is just one of any number of studies [1]

THE EFFECT OF SHELF DISPLAY ON PURCHASING DECISION

"The final results show that, even though the students know that they should act like rational buyers who choose products according to their intrinsic value, when describing how they act in real situations, they admit to behaving differently, in the sense that they are influenced in one way or another by marketing policies ..."

This is not revelatory or controversial, we've known this for a long time.

These 'fancy displays' have a very obvious advantage purely in terms of their clarity and impact, and of course the reduce pain of having to constantly tweak tags and pricing.

Distracting advertising and any kind of privacy invasion would be a drawback obviously. As would possibly the cost.

But this looks like a really obvious opportunity to test for retail.

My worry would be not so much any of the stated issues here, but that there would be a new kind of war for retail space and that brands would bid on the size of their placements on the screen, as opposed to their slot on the shelf. Just ugly and unnecessary operational overhead.

[1] https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by tomcooks on Saturday June 26, 2021 @03:02AM (#27639793)
Don't know about the other regions where LIDL opened shop, but in southern Europe they've made a killing by avoiding all these optimization rules.

Turns out there's a huge chunk of the population who cannot waste a single cent on what marketing dept has to say

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by jollybean on Saturday June 26, 2021 @06:02PM (#27646342)
The practices I described above generally improve sales, not reduce them.

The notion of 'consumers can't afford' doesn't really make a lot of sense.

The marginal cost of most of these things is very small.

In places where people are super price sensitive, maybe, but most people are not that.

Most people have some marginal flexibility which means an openness to buy things that can provide them more value.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by mongol on Saturday June 26, 2021 @04:14AM (#27640118)
I don't think Lidl avoids them. They just play them differently.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by hedora on Friday June 25, 2021 @10:21PM (#27638484)
I suspect the downvotes are because your comment could be shortened to “My worry here is that this will inconvenience the marketing drones, distracting them from maximizing our suffering as they burn the planet down”.

(Upvoted; thanks for the insightful comment.)

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by jollybean on Friday June 25, 2021 @10:30PM (#27638525)
I don't think my comment could be shortened to that because the primary thrust points to the nature of how people react to in-store presentation and how that affects us.

Almost all of the commentary on this board is missing 'the most obvious points' from a consumer retail perspective.

Issues such as privacy, invasive advertising are obviously relevant, but if we are 'thinking retail' this is going to be about shopping experience and operational overhead.

In terms of impact, experience, clarity and reducing labour input costs - it really has so many upsides.

Far from being a 'bad joke' ... just the opposite it's a pretty neat concept. This is not fodder, it's very possibly the future.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by chris_wot on Friday June 25, 2021 @10:48PM (#27638609)
I must be one of the few people who actually do know what they want when they go into the store. I want juice, eggs, butter, milk and cheese. Or I need cat food. That’s what I get. I often have wander about the store, but it is extremely rare that I get something other than what I have chosen to get.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by CameronNemo on Friday June 25, 2021 @10:21PM (#27638478)
Also these screens are a great target for anarchists.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by legutierr on Friday June 25, 2021 @09:02PM (#27638063)
There are cameras built into the doors, and one of the images in the Twitter thread shows heat maps being displayed on the screens, presumably conveying information about what the consumers were looking at on the screens.

Ads may not have been the only value proposition here, in other words. Data that can be used to improve merchandising may be equally valuable.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by LeftHandPath on Friday June 25, 2021 @10:02PM (#27638382)
I could see one case where it does make sense - stores after the gate in airports, where there are more people walking by and seeing the advertising than there are customers coming in looking for a specific product. In any place like a grocery store where customers have clearly come in looking for specific items, it makes zero sense.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by megablast on Friday June 25, 2021 @10:15PM (#27638449)
Yes, and it can update the prices for different customers flying in from India or the USA.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by brewdad on Saturday June 26, 2021 @11:15PM (#27648230)
Straw Buyer As A Service for an airport soda and chips.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by imgabe on Saturday June 26, 2021 @02:54AM (#27639768)
We’ll just have to wait for Apple to purchase a premium grocery chain and rebrand it as an ad-free, privacy-respecting grocery store. Too bad Whole Foods is already taken.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by downandout on Friday June 25, 2021 @11:16PM (#27638747)
I would imagine that the other benefit to this besides advertising is dynamic pricing. The prices are listed on the screen, and can thus be updated at will. They might raise the price of a bottle of Coke with the temperature outside, for example. Doing this with old school price tags requires manual labor. This would be much easier.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by fighterpilot on Saturday June 26, 2021 @02:12AM (#27639585)
Why not just charge the existing products for access to premium shelf space and classify that as advertising revenue? I don't see the point of putting ads in between the customer and what was already effectively an ad (i.e. the packaging/product itself).
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by nine_k on Saturday June 26, 2021 @03:23AM (#27639891)
Brands already bid for shelf placement.

Think about ads being contextual, e.g. for complementary products, or unrelated to the products inside at all but briefly reminding about new stuff, promotions, sales, etc.

Imagine thus screen showing navigation help ("where is milk?"), product data("is it sugar-free?") and other such things momentarily.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by lobocinza on Saturday June 26, 2021 @09:07AM (#27641508)
They will get a cut in the ad revenue and in their number of customers.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by PragmaticPulp on Friday June 25, 2021 @09:04PM (#27638073)
> and then convinced a grocery chain to buy this for their store

I wouldn't be surprised if it was the other way around: The startup that produces these doors probably pitched them for free to this store, perhaps offering a cut of the ad revenue. If the startup is well-funded, they may have even paid the store up-front to let them install the doors.

Given that these aren't widespread and the product is prototype quality, the startup likely needs a few pilot installs to show their investors and prove their product out. Assuming they're funded, getting some of these installed ASAP is their top priority. Trying to sell them would only slow that down.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by 908B64B197 on Friday June 25, 2021 @08:05PM (#27637754)
> Edit: What bothers me the most about this, is that it will actually work. Any surface where eyes may fall on, will be replaced with an ad.

Until someone finds out every screen has the same default password. And a few supermarkets are forced to shut them down because what was displayed was way, way worse than ads...

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by smegger001 on Friday June 25, 2021 @08:34PM (#27637926)
yeah and now that everything is cloud connected and controlled by a corporate office far removed from the actual stores. I cant wait until thee freezer isle of some national chain starts displaying goatsx on every door some holiday weekend and its hours before it fixed.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by carl_dr on Saturday June 26, 2021 @01:39AM (#27639413)
I wonder if the screens can be turned off independently of the refrigeration or freezer, in case something like this does happen?
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by NoGravitas on Friday June 25, 2021 @09:43PM (#27638286)
Inshallah.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by hn_throwaway_99 on Friday June 25, 2021 @08:33PM (#27637918)
Not looking forward to goatse when I get a hankering for microwave pizza.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by owl57 on Friday June 25, 2021 @08:43PM (#27637968)
Now, everyone suddenly knowing what the hell is goatse... I think this sounds comparable to how everyone (less) suddenly learned what the hell is Uber.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by brewdad on Saturday June 26, 2021 @11:21PM (#27648259)
Some knowledge should remain only with the gurus on the mountain tops.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by tantalor on Friday June 25, 2021 @07:48PM (#27637624)
> will be replaced with an ad

I'm not sure what that means. These already are ads. They are directly advertising the products literally inside the case.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by function_seven on Friday June 25, 2021 @08:10PM (#27637781)
> They are directly advertising the products literally inside the case.

Well, yeah, but glass would be just as effective and much cheaper. So they're doing something in addition to that.

If the requirement was "display the goods we have for sale" then glass beats this thing in virtually every way. Cheaper, minimal maintenance, no firmware updates, and most of all: familiar.

But these are going to be:

* Tracking consumer interest ("eNgAgEmEnT")

* Swapping between content display and billboard-style advertising

* Changing prices dynamically depending on weather, foot traffic, historical "engagement", national ad campaigns ("all Coke products 50% during the World Cup!"), etc.

* Pretending there's still Red Bulls in there when there aren't.

* Pretending those Red Bulls are on the 3rd shelf, right, when the stocker actually put them on the 4th shelf this time. (He forgot to read the updated Planogram email)

It's dystopian crap, I want nothing to do with it.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by Broken_Hippo on Saturday June 26, 2021 @04:44AM (#27640252)
Well, yeah, but glass would be just as effective and much cheaper.

I'm not sure. Home fridge doors didn't traditionally have glass because it doesn't insulate as well as, well, insulation. Glass is also a leaking point in houses. Especially if they were replacing older, less efficient units, they might use less power, and seem cheaper in the long run. Bonus points if the price changes and sale tags are electronic and require less work.

The other thing these do, at least with the ads, is provide moving images. Humans notice these, so it is likely that more folks notice the drink coolers due to the movement on the screens.

They already track consumer interest - loyalty cards, regular purchases, and credit cards selling data does this.

Coke tried changing prices dependent on whether: Folks have outcried over that. The others, though: This is normal store stuff. Foot traffic is pretty predictable, and has already been accounted for. Sports events? Known if it drives your sales. Historical engagement? Probably shows in the inventory.

In general, if a planogram is updated, someone goes and changes it. I cannot think of a reason for the door to update before someone has the planogram completed, and any company large enough to have those screens now would do this (I worked at CVS, and generally was assigned planograms). Even new item reports have to have a code for completion. And most folks put most things up correctly so long as there is some sort of label there (and there probably is so long as inventory and ordering controls use barcodes).

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by xaduha on Friday June 25, 2021 @08:14PM (#27637805)
> It's dystopian crap, I want nothing to do with it.

This is what the future looks like though. Welcome.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by schiffern on Friday June 25, 2021 @09:06PM (#27638078)
"I assert X is inevitable" isn't a valid argument.

> This is what the future looks like

Is it though? Is it impossible for us to stop? Or is this premature defeatism?

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by katbyte on Friday June 25, 2021 @09:28PM (#27638195)
I know I personally would just avoid any store with these, I already hate the fast food animated Menzies where they rotate between menu and ads and I don’t go to those places
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by xaduha on Friday June 25, 2021 @09:17PM (#27638133)
Depends on where you live. I don't think I'll be seeing those in quite a while personally, but in the land of unbridled capitalism... You tell me.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by xmprt on Friday June 25, 2021 @09:57PM (#27638363)
In a land with true capitalism these wouldn't exist because every single store with them would instantly lose all their customers. The only reason this exists is because America doesn't have a true free market or capitalism (because that's impossible) and stores are using their market position to force customers to shop there even though they would prefer not to. What are customers going to do? Go to the other massive grocery store that's miles away? Or maybe shop at the boutique that has half the selection at a markup.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by xaduha on Friday June 25, 2021 @10:17PM (#27638455)
Call it what you want, I just called it future because it's already reality for some, clearly.

I don't know about you, but for me the amount of ads I see decreased compared to some points in the past. I don't watch TV, I listen to music using a streaming service with a paid subscription, I actively look for interesting stuff to buy, but not because I've seen an ad. Probably because I haven't seen any recently, because I block them.

People buy some stuff on Amazon not because they were advertised a particular brand, but probably because they needed something and searched for it, compared between options, you know. This is our present. Ads on coolers in supermarkets might be just a swan song of a dying way of selling products. Is Amazon less scary that this though? Really?

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by unholythree on Friday June 25, 2021 @11:46PM (#27638899)
Then why is it that influencers are raking in the dough? Is Madison Avenue just desperately seeking any product placement? Someone's definitely spending ad revenue on TikTok, YouTube, and Facebook.

My media consumption is similar to yours, but I think we're the outliers, or maybe we just slipped between the generational cracks of an evolving but still very consumerist society.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by xaduha on Saturday June 26, 2021 @12:07AM (#27639016)
You got me there. Couldn't even begin to understand people who are growing up with social media.

Honestly I think targeted ads that are actually interesting to the person they are intended for is the only sane way out of this. No one likes ads that aren't relevant. If I'm going to be tracked and targeted, then at least don't annoy and bore me to death.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by FooBarBizBazz on Saturday June 26, 2021 @05:10PM (#27645892)
If you're not the type to buy shit, at some point they'll figure out to stop making ads for your type.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by xmprt on Friday June 25, 2021 @09:53PM (#27638340)
I think the future is a lot closer to something between Instacart and Amazon Go. This is what dying companies do to eek out a little more revenue at their last few customers' expense. Companies that rely on "innovations" like this for the future will not survive.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by xaduha on Friday June 25, 2021 @10:19PM (#27638468)
I agree, elaborated in a comment in this tree. Doesn't mean that it's not going to happen though, for a while at least, in some places.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by rorykoehler on Saturday June 26, 2021 @02:19AM (#27639608)
Just open the door before you look
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by 14 on Friday June 25, 2021 @08:01PM (#27637713)
Yes but a short video of a person eating a delicious slice of that frozen Delicio Pizza surely will get your mouth watering. And if they can also tell you soap is on sale you may buy that before you leave. They know you need soap because the last time you bought some on your loyalty card was 2 months ago.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by rightbyte on Saturday June 26, 2021 @04:58AM (#27640317)
Sure but why not just have ordinary TVs in the roof proclaiming sales?

Now that I think about it, I have not seen those TVs since the 90s. Maybe they drove the retail workers mad.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by xaduha on Friday June 25, 2021 @08:12PM (#27637794)
They probably want to advertise something else, something someone else would pay them for to advertise.

It can easily be made to detect if someone is near and making their choice, but otherwise they can be part of a larger ad.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by deepserket on Saturday June 26, 2021 @03:03AM (#27639799)
Have you noticed the cameras at the top of each screen?

Something like https://youtu.be/7bXJ_obaiYQ

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by PhasmaFelis on Saturday June 26, 2021 @01:48AM (#27639463)
I wouldn't call a pure index of product locations in the cooler an "ad," any more than it's an "ad" when you look through the glass and see the logo on the Coke bottle you want.

When it breaks the index function to display a full-height animated Coke bottle, that's an ad.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by lupire on Friday June 25, 2021 @07:51PM (#27637648)
More they are advertising items no longer available in the case.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by wyldfire on Friday June 25, 2021 @07:44PM (#27637600)
> Still no one thought... glass?

I'm sure it came up. Customer experience vs revenue for in-store billboards. Ad revenue won.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by the-pigeon on Friday June 25, 2021 @07:49PM (#27637630)
Yes. People see something dumb and decide the designers and business people involved are idiots. But often the business people and designers have very different goals and know that it's dumb. But they don't think it being dumb conflicts with their goals.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by tootie on Friday June 25, 2021 @07:51PM (#27637645)
This is how the entire advertising industry works. Including digital and experiential marketing. I have personally set millions of customers' dollars on fire building doodads like these.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by theshadowknows on Friday June 25, 2021 @09:05PM (#27638075)
I make my living helping big ass corporation, inc connect all the systems to use doodads like these :)
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by raverbashing on Saturday June 26, 2021 @02:32AM (#27639651)
Based on other "ad in store" similar displays I suspect this will go unused in a couple of months, maybe years

You have to sell the media to someone. This is not like the type of self-promotion posters that come with some products, this is a separate thing entirely.

This might conflict with supermarket deals with the beverage manufacturers. It might make it harder to sell some brands.

So either the ad space vendor is aligned with those interests and the ad buyer has an interest in buying this space (which might be hard to justify) I don't see it lasting too long.

Oh yeah and guess what happens if the fridge needs maintenance and is not owned by the store... Something has got to give there.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by wodenokoto on Saturday June 26, 2021 @04:05AM (#27640073)
Oh, come on.

Everyone thought "glass". The whole project, from the grocery store point of view, was about testing an alternative to glass doors.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by Broken_Hippo on Saturday June 26, 2021 @04:34AM (#27640207)
Very much this! Everyone thought glass. Not only was this about testing alternatives to glass, everything would have had their cost and possible revenue compared to glass - or possibly, to the cost of running their aging glass-doored fridge units, the decals they print for the front, and the employee hours spent on them.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by rightbyte on Saturday June 26, 2021 @04:53AM (#27640295)
There are electronic price tags for shelfs that don't need printing.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by meh99 on Friday June 25, 2021 @09:11PM (#27638104)
No one thought “glass” because the outcome was predetermined.

Employees do not care about financial or literal waste.

They only meme in mind when they go to their job for “make money”.

I goto meetings with a vision and zero fucks about the implementation all the time. Why you expect that to be different otherwise in the same culture is beyond me.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by swiley on Saturday June 26, 2021 @08:26AM (#27641267)
> none of them thought... glass?

I would bet that lots of people did think glass but were convinced by the social inertia that glass must have some issue that makes it inferior.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by frobozz on Saturday June 26, 2021 @03:29AM (#27639920)
> I would really, really love to have been in that sales pitch meeting.

Me too. I could do with getting a bit of extra cash handed to me in a brown envelope.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by notacoward on Saturday June 26, 2021 @04:45PM (#27645673)
> Any surface where eyes may fall on, will be replaced with an ad.

With AR you don't even need surfaces.

Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by tootie on Friday June 25, 2021 @07:49PM (#27637633)
It's not a crazy idea and this likely a prototype and prone to bugs. Transparent displays have been a hot item for a while. The tech has been around for years but it's expensive and has had issues with brightness. They also need to tune the UX to be valuable and not too distracting. I think these will become ubiquitous in 10 years.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by mypalmike on Friday June 25, 2021 @08:00PM (#27637705)
This is not a transparent display as far as I can tell. It just renders images of what the inventory system thinks is behind it.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by dvtrn on Friday June 25, 2021 @08:15PM (#27637813)
There are pictures in the tweet of completely black screens, presumably malfunctioning or otherwise “off” screens so pretty clearly (heh) not transparent.
Re:Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass” by tootie on Friday June 25, 2021 @11:44PM (#27638889)
You are correct. I've seen transparent versions of this which are pretty cool. These are just big dumb screens.