Thank you for putting it so well.
RIP LiveLeak. Its loss is a tragedy that is hard to quantify. Perhaps a catastrophe, that nobody will ever understand the full invisible scale of.
Skip to 1:45.
Warning, it’s disturbing. Perhaps in a good way.
This along with many other incidents just like it have me completely paranoid of the highway. If it isn't projectiles entering a vehicle at highway speeds it's pedestrians and cyclists getting run over at 20mph. Between safety concerns and health concerns (burning gasoline) I have about had it with automobiles.
This is why I don't like driving.
https://acoup.blog/2019/08/16/collections-this-isnt-sparta-p...
Not related, but I'll just close by saying I didn't have the same respect that I now have for rotating shafts at industrial facilities until I saw some industrial accidents on the internet. Lo and behold years later, as a programmer, I'm working at a factory automating some things and there it is, an un-shrouded rotating shaft connected to a fairly large motor, right there at ankle level. Stink was raised, shroud was installed.
It's even made me more careful when I use obviously much smaller power tools at home. Tools like circular saws, mitre saws, and even angle grinders have the ability to irreversibly change your life (or worse) in the blink of an eye if not handled with care and respect.
Just thinking about that video again has made me feel slightly queasy, but there's no doubt seeing it has done me a huge favour.
Angle grinders are next level, fundamental "respect or you'll be maimed" stuff.
Angular momentum is not as fundamentally easy to judge and is easily underestimated.
That's true but they're not sufficient to protect against all injuries if you don't take proper precautions. And, as far as circular saws go, you're flat out wrong about them not jumping and hurting you: if they bind up in the wood that's exactly what can happen in the worst case. It's called kickback.
I’m tempted to search for industrial lathe accidents next but I think that will have to wait till tomorrow.
In another video, a ISIS (?) soldier gets shot in the head, and falls to the ground. We see him struggling to get up while a viscous red liquid pours out the side of his head. Just pours out. No pink mist or giblets. He didn't die instantly.
This broke the preconceptions I had from movies and videogames. I consider it an important milestone.
In reality, after a large scale battle the field is littered with people writhing in agony. It commonly takes several hours for a wounded person to die. Several hours of pain, as you slowly realize no one is going to help you and you're not going to make it.
The worst I saw was one where they gouged a guy's eyes out, skinned his face, and cut off his hands and feet, and he was still alive and seemed conscious and aware.
Then there's the infamous 2-guys-1-hammer video.
Milestone in what?
But then, and this makes me want to shut the borders around EU and North America and a few Asian countries, you watch some gore videos from South America and you realize that ISIS has nothing on these drug cartels.
The drug cartels are truly completely fucked in the heads. And they slowly ruin country after country. It's just a question of time before we see strong presence of US/UN military and drug deregulation(whether you want it or not) to prevent a complete collapse of those societies and the whole of South America. Or maybe I've seen too many horrible gore videos?
It made me both want to avoid crack and want to do crack.
That kind of invulnerability would be incredible.
I never understood how they operate. Always thought search engines should ban the site or something.
1) gruesome abortions conducted in some western country
2) Denmark a man (immigrant?) was immolated outside his home by a crowd. They are shouting
3) man is hacked by a machete in the UK by some edl member
4) America a guy was run over by a truck and gets stuck on the wheels, still alive. crowd just blankly watches. truck begins to move
lathes, printing presses, other industrial incidents.
> I think the world has lost a valuable resource.
nothing of the value has been lost. You don't need to see this to understand that horrible things happen in the world.
I understand it academically, but every time I see or read something like this I realise that I don't really understand it.
To address the argument that we should "see how horrible the world is", I think it's worth asking why that's necessary? What will it change, beyond making it harder to sleep? Further, there's always something worse you can see, so should we go on trying to fund ever more horrible videos to watch? What is gained by watching something live that isn't gained simply by reading about it or reflecting on injustices without becoming voyeurs to people's horrors?
There's a reason why, when spruiking for donations, organisations like UNICEF like to show pictures of suffering children, and read first-hand accounts. These are the things that motivate people to act. We're not perfectly rational beings. We're all well aware that there are poor and starving people in the world, and mostly we do nothing about it. It's that emotional reaction that prompts us to act.
Reflecting on it instead might be sufficient, but if so then it's demonstrably not what people do, or else those pitches wouldn't be as successful as they are.
That action, to me, is the point, and it comes in many forms. Some active, like for instance donating to a cause. Some passive, like changing opinions on an ongoing war that your country is party to.
Sure, some people are watching it for entertainment value. Is that a big problem, if it changes opinions nevertheless? And from reading the other comments on this thread, I think it's apparent that it changes opinions.
Seeing some of those things helped me understand why people in the past did such radical things to avoid capture.
What? Will we start more wars to provide it? Make workplaces, roads,etc less safe?
Chances are this type of content has saved more lives than anything by making people more sensitised to what can happen and aware of things like workplace safety.
There's something to be said about people seeing war and intervention as boring policy moves, not being able to stomach the thought of seeing where the meat they eat comes from for some reason and thinking about boring warning videos when thinking about workplace safety or a court case when thinking about drunk driving.
The way you phrase this makes it sound like you think people intentionally create these videos where people die just to post it to LiveLeak for people to be entertained by.
A lot of it was stuff that was going to happen anyway that happened to be caught on film.
Utter bullshit and you know it. It didn't have an audience until it was uploaded. By that point it was already recorded. People have always recorded events throughout history for as long as they were able to be recorded.
Was the Hindenburg disaster recorded in the hopes that something awful would happen so it could 'have an audience'?
Unfortunately those humans are going to die and be maimed anyway. If those videos are out there, there's a chance of educating people on the danger of not paying attention crossing the road, or using a lathe, or throwing a firework into a sewer, or any of the million other mundane things that people do that don't seem super dangerous on first thought but actually are?
1) an ISIS video where a 7 year old kid or so goes through a building where a bunch of hostages are tied up. He shoots them dead in succession. He looks like he’s about to cry throughout the whole video — but he doesn’t.
2) a completely covered up woman(?) in Iran is executed in public. They tie the rope around her neck and then lift her up . Her legs flail and kick a little, then a lot, then stop. The crowd is shouting.
3) a teenage girl in Guatemala is beaten by a crowd. When she’s lying on the floor someone pours a liquid over her and lights her on fire. She struggles a bit and it seems like the fire has gone out. The guy comes and pours more on her and sets her on fire again. She struggles a bit more slowly and it seems like the fire is out. Then she yells the most chilling thing I have ever heard. She screams “Echenme mas gasolina, culeros!” (Throw more gasoline on me, assholes!) I will never unhear a 16 year old girl begging for a mercy killing. The crowd obliged and pours a very large amount of the accelerant on her and she flails around while burning to death.
4) a woman is walking with her two kids near a maybe 6 foot high single brick thick wall in construction. One of her kids touches the wall and it collapses on his or her head. The mother digs out the bricks to get to her child but when she sees him she has a meltdown and is grabbing her hair and screaming.
Absolutely horrifying, yes. But I don’t think there’s any other way to learn about this facet of the world. I think the world has lost a valuable resource.