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Re:LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online by jamestimmins on Thursday May 06, 2021 @12:40AM (#27059221)
After the photojournalist James Foley was beheaded by Isis, I read a thoughtful editorial arguing that we shouldn't watch it, in part because people were ultimately doing it not to become more informed, but to test their ability or willingness to stomach it. It also argued, that ultimately this was a form of entertainment.

To address the argument that we should "see how horrible the world is", I think it's worth asking why that's necessary? What will it change, beyond making it harder to sleep? Further, there's always something worse you can see, so should we go on trying to fund ever more horrible videos to watch? What is gained by watching something live that isn't gained simply by reading about it or reflecting on injustices without becoming voyeurs to people's horrors?

Re:LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online by wyattpeak on Thursday May 06, 2021 @01:14AM (#27059397)
I think what's gained is a visceral appreciation for such events which prompts further action.

There's a reason why, when spruiking for donations, organisations like UNICEF like to show pictures of suffering children, and read first-hand accounts. These are the things that motivate people to act. We're not perfectly rational beings. We're all well aware that there are poor and starving people in the world, and mostly we do nothing about it. It's that emotional reaction that prompts us to act.

Reflecting on it instead might be sufficient, but if so then it's demonstrably not what people do, or else those pitches wouldn't be as successful as they are.

That action, to me, is the point, and it comes in many forms. Some active, like for instance donating to a cause. Some passive, like changing opinions on an ongoing war that your country is party to.

Sure, some people are watching it for entertainment value. Is that a big problem, if it changes opinions nevertheless? And from reading the other comments on this thread, I think it's apparent that it changes opinions.

Re:LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online by spoonjim on Thursday May 06, 2021 @02:52AM (#27059936)
I don’t think it’s entertainment any more than reading the news is entertainment. I know that LiveLeak for example changed my view on capital punishment. You can sit in a coffee shop and debate things but once you see a guy cut out another guy’s beating heart in front of his son (before doing the same to the son) you think, “they really ought to execute that guy.”
Re:LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online by ticviking on Thursday May 06, 2021 @09:44AM (#27063085)
It reminds us that in fact Evil does exist. And that despite it's flaws our society does an aweful lot to keep it from intruding into our lives.

Seeing some of those things helped me understand why people in the past did such radical things to avoid capture.