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this entire conflict is like a big house raid, there is no war.

there is also [0] which you can also view using a gemini client

[0] https://cosmic.voyage/

i think i might be wrong about those comments being automated. just watched a few videos on youtube, especially one involving a group of snipers and a child. people are so radicalized. i don't want to sound alarmist but there is something so much bigger on the horizon.

do adoption or market share matter in this context? if you can have best of the both worlds why would you want to deal with an another language?

many people here believe private business has a right to control anything they please (their platform, their rules) and to some extent they are right but the infuriating thing is that the banhammer is obviously not just. so one has to ask; what is their function?

@dang would you please indulge me once and reply why this thread is flagged? in a moment where earth needs to stand still and witness? this is something straight out of manifacturing-consent.

in exchange, i promise i will no longer participate this medium again.

a soldier may defer the responsibility and somehow manage to rationalize it. there is also probablity in the equation. but after the fact? horror in front of your eyes how a human being can highfive the death of a children? won't these horrors come home some day? there has got to be some automation going on, these are not human in any sense. i am not talking about a few cases, there are stream of abhorent comments from many accounts.

please can someone explain how these troll organisations work? are they using some kind of AI or automated garbage or real people behind every comment? i can not believe what i am reading. there are pictures of dead children and people spamming highfives.

simplicty is important, but i believe it is not the most important metric for a PL and have no problem with complex PLs. the question; is it worth the trouble? c++s failure is not the complexity but c++ being one of the least orthogonal languages out there. in c++ you are able to compose two great things/ideas (other than my only options are c and c++ this is the biggest reason i prefer c++ over c) yet the end result is not more but less.

didn't lisp prove the opposite? you can go lower than c and higher than any language we currently have in the same language?

> Instead of war, invest in domestic technology. It pays back better

is it though? if you got the biggest gun why not rob someone else? do you believe ethics/empathy/humanity plays any role in any form governance? since we know that if you can sell the idea, you can get away with anything. why not just do the thing you know best? this is not singling out USA or China in any sense, they are just ahead of the curve, flower of the century.

a system optimized for only profit with almost no accountability (externalities) reads like a recipe to transfer of the wealth from many to few. if you add war into equation many becomes many-brown, many-yellow, many-black, many-jewish, many-others basicaly many-we-can-target-and-get-away-with. if you remove borders from the equation you end up seeing yourself on the receiving end as well. yet no-surprisingly few remains always the same.

so, the question is 'it pays back better to whom?'.

fuck china accounts or usa accounts. i myself never downvote a comment.

you just broke all the rules of hackernews yet no mod here to flag/shadowban/warn you, how fair. you also discarded the entire human race based on your distorted ideas on good/bad yet here you are visible to all eyes.

i think you may have misunderstood him, you both are talking about the same thing

andrew,

a language with first class cross-compilation alone is enough for me to respect you as a language designer and zig have so many features like this. i am a huge fan.

i have only one favourite feature in c++ and it is templates/ctfe. without the function/operator-overloading templates are incomplete, i would then use c instead. i am still using c++ with all its failures, with all its complexity, with all its uglyness|ineleganceonly because c++ got one thing right. you can at least somehow modify the language.

edit: i have to point out that i have never worked in a big team (more than 10) and you can (probably should) safely ignore my ideas/opinions.

but you can misuse anything, + vs add was an example for this.

being able to misuse a PL i believe is not a bug but a feature. we really suck at predicting the future.

in fact i believe templates are the greatest idea in static typing. they look awful because its design and the implementation is awful not the idea. c++ failed because they didn't know and too late to turn back, and rust just looks same, you should see d-templates.

that is exactly my point. it has everything. elegance, vision, practicality... it doesn't treat programmers like drones.

my only beef with zig/jai is that they both have strong opinions on things like operator overloading and i am afraid they will end up just like java.

i have nothing against having strong opinions, i am the biggest offender but completely disallowing some features, some of the best features static typing can offer is just nonsense.

every language designer should study common-lisp and start with the operators : and :: these two operators alone tell you that the language designed for practical use.

for me overloading the operator + and function 'add' is exactly same. you should then forbid function overloading as well now. you can argue about the weakness of operator overloading but disabling completely, not even a workaround?

why not just enable oo and have safe alternatives instead? . safe(a + b) . a s+ b

the greatest of all is lisp not being the most mainstream language, and we can only blame the lisp companies for this fiasco. in an ideal world we all would be using a lisp with parametric polymorphism. from highest level abstractions to machine level, all in one language.

> Well they lost the competition and the winning side likes to warp the reality

someone posted this[0] a few days ago.

[0]https://acoup.blog/2019/08/16/collections-this-isnt-sparta-p...

> waste

i think this and the sport part of it is the worst of all. there is this popular show on youtube that everyone loves. celebrities eating hot wings. just a small bite and they throw it to trash. no one bats an eye, it is part of the culture.

you can't just compare a game and a web page. vastly different requirements.

unfairly? privacy concerns aside they just added another huge abstraction on top of an already huge pile of shit we call modern web.

there are lots of links to casey's twitter account but the real gem is[0]. it reads like the famous jurassic park quote: 'Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should'

[0]https://twitter.com/cmuratori/status/1387126330961981441

> which show that there's a bunch of dark stuff under the surface that shows when you disturb the surface. Interpreting fresh impact imagery with a fungii story would be "Rocks impacting the surface cause fungii growth" which makes very little sense. Even dust devils strip off the surface enough to show the dark stuff.

there was a link here or on reddit a few days ago studying the link between mushroom growth and the lightning. they claimed just using small electrical charges (1/billion of the power of a lightning) they could get up to %10 more growth

powerfull people can silence you in so many ways. they will always have a platform, you won't.

you also got discourse backwards. you should be judging the arguments presented (which in this case not much), not the persona.

pg is one of the people introduced me to lisp and i think lisp is the greatest idea in computer science. so his ideas have some weight for me, but lately the disconnect is quite unbearable. he is again picking the wrong side in history.

will these supervillians ever stop? nothing less than world-domination is enough.

microsoft tried to own everything about computing, they largly succeeded. they even infiltrated schools and still every pc is sold with windows-preinstalled.

then came google/facebook/apple... and they all want to own the entire internet.

unity wants the entire gaming/gamedev/computer-graphics. i am sure there are schools out there have unity classes, just unbelievable. "unity-developer" is the norm in job titles now, and i have never once heard "photoshop-artist" in the title of a job description.

this particular case is no exception.

ok, most logical conclusion is i too am envious.

for this particular thread you are right. i just hope the reason is not the volume of comments.

> Are you guys so out of touch with yourselves and the world?

in this instance i am living 1-life != 1-life, it just depends. in this instance institutions sugarcoat mass-murders and put people in prisons just for stealing a bread. we have no tool to defend against indoctrination at this scale.

i think it was 10 years ago that i was reading quite about isreal-philistine conflict, the injustices just overwhelms you, you become bitter and bitter, at one point i even hated them, not just the understandable hatred against a government. then i came across to this video, group of rabbies was beaten by police, blood everywhere. they were protesting against government policies. that single video showed me what a tool i was, generalizing group of people...

living an experience is infinitly harder than reading it. and closest thing to living is watching the real footage.

> I'm really wondering what happens to a brain that is exposed to such things

that is not very empathetic, is it now.

clicked a few light links (no gore, no blood) and the more shocking part was the comments... they can't be real people, it has got to be a bot and/or honeypot of some kind.