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Re:Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft by milkytron on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @01:28PM (#26877658)
Maybe...

Teams is utter garbage in my opinion, but I don't think acquiring Discord would solve that. Skype seems like a similar acquisition, and look how that turned out.

Re:Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft by krzepah on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @01:34PM (#26877744)
Microsoft has trouble with UI design and it only got worse. Think about the "help" buttons that are on win system preferences, instead of directing you to the option they send you to google or bing. It's ridiculous.
Re:Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft by vkou on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @01:57PM (#26878170)
IF you want a really ridicilous example of Microsoft's inability to deal with UX, try changing literally anything that has to do with sound in Windows, and tell me how many separate sound-related configuration applications there are, and what are the paths to opening them.

Then, ask someone who never used Windows XP to explain to you what each of those configuration applications is responsible for. (So they won't be able to lean on the crutch of "Oh, this one is the exact same thing as the sound application in Windows 98...")

Re:Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft by hnick on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @08:02PM (#26883642)
Or just use Outlook. I don't know what they did but it's like all the various panes are coded independently and don't talk to each other.

Multiple times a day I'll see a number next to 'unread' which won't go away, because I've read all my emails but it hasn't realised yet. And my calendar sometimes takes 5-10 seconds to load over VPN, it doesn't seem to be cached anymore. Made a mistake of going to lunch with an 'empty' calendar once! I miss 2016.

Re:Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft by tinus_hn on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:35PM (#26879034)
One of the reasons of course is that every driver feels the need to add their great pane to the control panel applet, so now Microsoft can’t change anything to the applet or all the drivers break.
Re:Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft by InitialLastName on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @03:46PM (#26880429)
3 of those settings panes are baked directly into Windows 10 and have nothing to do with any 3rd-party drivers.

If the sound isn't enough, the power management is even worse. I count at least 5 different panes to configure different subsets of screen saver, sleep, hibernate and power on/off behavior, all from Windows itself with no 3rd-party software involved.

Re:Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft by vkou on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @04:31PM (#26881191)
I believe (but can't confirm, because I don't own enough wierd audio equipment) that third-party drivers can embed controls into one of those settings panes.

But yes, your point still stands. There's no good reason for this mess, and Microsoft needs to put someone who cares in charge of Windows UX.

Re:Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft by InitialLastName on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @04:34PM (#26881224)
> I believe (but can't confirm, because I don't own enough wierd audio equipment) that third-party drivers can embed controls into one of those settings panes.

That would be an improvement on the current status quo, where each third-party device adds its own new settings pane.

Re:Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft by herbst on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @02:43AM (#26886136)
Its not only the sound thing. Its so weird to me how i still am able to find most options on a modern Windows computer even thought i stopped back with XP. And not because its so intuitive, but because it never really changed at all, just added more layers over layers.
Re:Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft by me_me_me on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @01:56PM (#26878150)
UI design? Teams has no UI design, but haphazardly aranged buttons that are hard to spot.

I can't describe how bad of experience it is to use.

How does a corp that actively pushes their users/clients into using Teams makes no UX effort.

Re:Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft by mopsi on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:23PM (#26878770)
The whole Settings app also feels like something thrown together in a really primitive GUI scripting language that doesn't support anything besides text and its alignment.

This is the old disk management utility: https://i.imgur.com/AqhYewC.jpg

This is the new one: https://i.imgur.com/DNb0qJl.jpg

While the old was far from perfect, it at least gave visual hints to how partitions relate to disks. The new """design""" is just plain text, some of which is clickable and will reveal "Properties" button. It's up to you to find the hidden clickspots.

I can't believe they are releasing such garbage. Sometimes I wonder: does Satya Nadella use Windows? How is he not raging every time he opens the Settings app?

Re:Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft by airstrike on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @03:20PM (#26879986)
That's one painful side-by-side
Re:Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft by bronson on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @10:38PM (#26884820)
“Just throw it in a webview and let’s grab an early lunch.”
Re:Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft by bigger_cheese on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @11:00PM (#26884958)
My Org went from Skype for Business to Teams.

Teams is 1000x better.

The part I like is how it integrates with outlook. My workflow is pretty email oriented so being able to send an email meeting request and have that meeting seamlessly show up in teams app is really nice.

Same thing when you receive an email from someone you can click their name and dial them via teams (you could do this with skype to but it was dodgy).

Group calls, screen sharing etc. is miles better than Skype.

Re:Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft by haecceity on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @02:01AM (#26885902)
Copying text works randomly...
Re:Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft by tyingq on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @03:40PM (#26880335)
Decision makers are pretty forgiving of an application that comes bundled with something else they had to buy anyway. And it is "good enough", despite being worse than competitors, for things like hosting video meetings.
Re:Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft by beckingz on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @09:31PM (#26884366)
I hoped that getting vaccinated would make me love microsoft more, but the teams UI is just so bad.

Not to mention the pain that is moving between office 365 apps.

Re:Discord ends deal talks with Microsoft by remir on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @03:50PM (#26880494)
If you think Teams is garbage, try dealing with the admin side of Teams. UX nightmare.