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Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by Dylan16807 on Monday March 29, 2021 @03:02AM (#26618480)
What lesson is that?

Would it have been cheaper to build and maintain two canals? And it's not the end of the world if ships have to go the long way.

Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by Apocryphon on Monday March 29, 2021 @03:30AM (#26618594)
Interestingly, there's at least a possibility for a Nicaragua Canal as a redundancy for the Panama Canal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua_Canal

Doubt there's any alternate paths for a Suez Canal.

Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by blueblisters on Monday March 29, 2021 @06:21AM (#26619643)
Wow, in a list of astoundingly bad ideas, cutting a path for large container ships through a pristine freshwater lake will probably rank at the top.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by mrfusion on Monday March 29, 2021 @09:24AM (#26621152)
I love pristine lakes too but we should look at the cost/benefit before deciding.

A pristine lake doesn’t have infinite value, right?

Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by VBprogrammer on Monday March 29, 2021 @10:03AM (#26621700)
It depends on who's point of view we're evaluating it from. I haven't looked, but suppose there is an endangered species which call the lake home, perhaps that is the only place they inhabit. Putting them one oil spill away from existence.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by mekkkkkk on Monday March 29, 2021 @09:57AM (#26621601)
So, what's the going rate for pristine lakes nowadays?
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by mrfusion on Monday March 29, 2021 @10:11AM (#26621839)
It’s actually really high since you’d be ruining the enjoyment of the lake for all future generations plus the fact that you can’t predict how much enjoyment they would get from it.

But if there were enough benefits it could still be worth it. Brining 50k people out of poverty for example? Reducing trucking pollution by a large amount.

Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by mckirk on Monday March 29, 2021 @10:12AM (#26621861)
Best I can do is about tree fiddy.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by riffraff on Monday March 29, 2021 @03:43AM (#26618651)
you could cut across the egypt/israel border from the gulf of aqaba.

It would be something like ten times the length of Suez, and I think there are mountains in the middle, but it would be pretty cool! :)

Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by danarmak on Monday March 29, 2021 @07:04AM (#26619932)
It's been proposed before! https://www.jpost.com/opinion/an-israeli-suez-canal-393225

It would be less than 3x the length, not 10x. The mountains are a problem; it could go around but would still need to dig a lot. And it doesn't seem feasible politically right now, but it could be a really cool project.

(If it was built, then a side-canal to irrigate the Dead Sea would be a relatively cheap value-add.)

Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by theshrike79 on Monday March 29, 2021 @04:17AM (#26618816)
The Norwegians are already planning a tunnel for boats: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stad_Ship_Tunnel

"In March 2021, the Norwegian Ministry of Transport and Communications gave approval for preparations to begin, with the Norwegian Coastal Administration expecting construction to begin in 2022."

Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by usrusr on Monday March 29, 2021 @06:25AM (#26619683)
Norway, where else! They seem to have an entirely different relation to tunneling than the rest of humanity:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drammen_Spiral

Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by matkoniecz on Monday March 29, 2021 @08:11AM (#26620415)
And there are canal tunnels already - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canal_tunnel
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by jojobas on Monday March 29, 2021 @04:27AM (#26618867)
A large portion of the channel has been upgraded into two lanes in the last few years.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by gambiting on Monday March 29, 2021 @09:21AM (#26621100)
Well maybe....make the Suez Canal wider? Like, double the width, so if this happens again ships can pass?

Or would it just lead to ships being made that can accomodate the entire width of the super-wide canal? :P

Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by Piskvorrr on Monday March 29, 2021 @10:22AM (#26622028)
Look at Panama Canal: its dimensions have defined container ships since...well...since it was built (see "Panamax"). When a new and improved set of locks was built, New Panamax ships (i.e. "juust large enough to fit the new maxima") were launched.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by gambiting on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @08:33AM (#26646390)
Well I suppose that has a very simple solution - make the canal wider so that even if a ship runs into a side others can pass, but leave the entry points on both ends the same width.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by fileeditview on Monday March 29, 2021 @03:29AM (#26618586)
Maybe more like having a stockpile of essential parts may be beneficial if something like this or Corona happens.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by Dylan16807 on Monday March 29, 2021 @04:00AM (#26618730)
If you're relying on intercontinental cargo ships then you probably already know you need to have a buffer, whether you actually have one or not.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by asdfaoeu on Monday March 29, 2021 @07:39AM (#26620187)
Also, for some businesses it may just not make sense as the cost of stockpiling is more than the occasional loss of productivity.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by nebolo on Monday March 29, 2021 @06:27AM (#26619699)
Name one thing that you, as a consumer, have not been able to get a consequence of the Seuz being blocked?
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by jacquesm on Monday March 29, 2021 @07:36AM (#26620159)
Just to give you one example, there is a months worth of raw material for FFP2 masks on there somewhere.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by simonh on Monday March 29, 2021 @07:13AM (#26620008)
Why are you restricting this to consumers? There are plenty of businesses getting hurt by this.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by hutzlibu on Monday March 29, 2021 @06:37AM (#26619742)
With the delay, it might still come to us.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update by WarOnPrivacy on Monday March 29, 2021 @07:21AM (#26620053)
Gas at $2.79/gal