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Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by steve918 on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @02:09AM (#26163587)
Somewhat unrelated IKEA has been brought to it's knees during the pandemic and it has made their online ordering completely useless. For a company shifting focus to online only I would think they would want to be able to ship some things purchased online.

Stock is also low in the Portland store, but even the few items available can't be purchased online and shipped to me. I've tried to order a number of things recently and they won't ship anything to my house.

Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by ThePadawan on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @02:19AM (#26163645)
Personal anecdote, buz IKEA's online shopping has always suckes for me, even before 2020.

- Shipping options disappear and reappear randomly when refreshing the shopping cart

- some items just cannot be bought online for no clear reason (baking spatulas cannot, cooking spatulas can)

- Several packages arrived completely smashed open, and returning them involved bringing them "back" to the nearest IKEA which wasn't particularly fun with 35kg of furniture and no car.

Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by mrweasel on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @02:57AM (#26163839)
> some items just cannot be bought online for no clear reason

I think there's a pretty clear reason. During normal circumstances, those items are not sold online, because they specifically WANT you to go to a warehouse. If you're looking for a couch or a table, it doesn't matter than much, that's deliberate shopping. The smaller items, those lead to impulse purchases.

Even tried going to Ikea to just get a frying pan, or a bath mat? You'll end up buying 10 more items, because: Hey, it's cheap, and the drive was 30 minutes the wrong way, might as well stock up.

Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by ThePadawan on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @03:15AM (#26163946)
That doesn't explain why I can buy single coat hangers online, but not single spatulas.

> (...) You'll end up buying 10 more items

This is also sort of a meme. I have taken trips to IKEA maybe 30 times in my life, and I walked out of there with exactly what was on my shopping list (or less, because the items sucked or were out of stock) 95% of the time.

Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by DonHopkins on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @03:26AM (#26164023)
Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by ema on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @04:07AM (#26164311)
It probably depends on the person. I for one never leave IKEA without having bought something I hadn't even thought about beforehand.
Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by avh02 on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @05:36AM (#26164910)
I feel cheated if i don't impulse buy something. :p
Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by arkitaip on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @02:33AM (#26163717)
IKEA's online shopping even sucks in Sweden, with shipping being expensive or online ordering unavailable for many products. Honestly their rate if innovation kinda sucks outside their narrow field of expertise (huge furniture warehouses). Like, they have for decades been discussing offering small stores to sell everyday necessities to customers who can't or won't travel to their warehouses outside the cities, but nothing has come out of it.
Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by brazzledazzle on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @09:13AM (#26166454)
On the US site I can’t even log in and view my orders. I have to paste in the order number. I also noticed my “IKEA family” login doesn’t work at the normal IKEA login page which makes me think it’s two distinct systems with some kind of federation. It’s bizarre and I can only imagine the legacy cruft and/or dysfunction that led to this.

If this is how bad it looks from the outside I can only imagine what it’s like working there.

Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by sethhochberg on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @10:10AM (#26167129)
It seems like something is maybe starting to happen with the small city store idea - in NYC, IKEA already has a pretty normal-sized store in a relatively industrial area of Brooklyn, but recently opened an experimental small-format store in Queens and has a really small-format store in Manhattan.
Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by ferryman on Thursday February 18, 2021 @09:47AM (#26180361)
They're headquartered in the Netherlands and it sucks here as well. Their operations are not optimised for a high volume of online orders and their website does a really poor job of handling that.
Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by avh02 on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @05:39AM (#26164932)
Also anecdotal: needed some small items from there (because it matches what I've already got) and their click and collect in Berlin was super well done. You could order to pick up the next day.

They had converted their entrance and exit "lobbies" in to a zone where carts of items were prepped and after they confirm your order they'd just roll the cart with your order out of the door and leave you to take it from there.

Obviously you have to be prepared for heavier items, etc, but it was fast.

That said, I had some less urgent stuff to get, and ordered online, took 3 weeks to even process/ship (though i knew that in advance)

Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by matsemann on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @03:42AM (#26164141)
> Shipping options disappear and reappear randomly when refreshing the shopping cart

I got saved by this not long ago. Needed a fridge the next day after moving into a new apartment. Was prepared to spend the day cycling to IKEA, buy the fridge and rent a car, get it all the way home, deliver the car and bike back. But then the website borked and let me choose next day express carry inside for 0,- saving me the trouble of carrying the fridge up stairs, renting a car etc.

Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by wojciii on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @03:33AM (#26164073)
The site is horrible and their phones are not being taken because they have too many calls here in DK. I'm not going to use IKEA unless I strictly have to based on the experiences I had during the last few months.
Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by bobthepanda on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @02:43AM (#26163759)
Also, don't make the mistake of trying to call for a return. IKEA US had a 3+ hour long wait for the phones.
Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by universa1 on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @02:49AM (#26163792)
the online shopping isn't the best, but then with the current lockdown in germany you can do click&collect and get your stuff in the parking garage... still kinda sad they still charge 10€ extra for that (instead of 15 during normal times), but then it worked flawlessly and the stuff was ready for pickup the next day.

still limited to things available in the local ikea, you can not mix "online" available and local available stuff...

Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by szszrk on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @02:23AM (#26163666)
This is unfortunately true for my country as well. Online catalog is not on par with regular store availability. It's even weirded if you take into account that their delivery fees are very high. It's often cheaper to buy small amounts of IKEA goods from resellers that just go to IKEA and buy it for you, then ship with standard services.

Does US stores also have the ability to pick items up from a warehouse next to their stores? Btw. how is this option also a paid one is beyond me.

This is unfortunate as they have a really cool offer of smart devices (lights, remotes, battery powered blinds, etc), which by default are not online (can be connected with things like google now but it's limited to local physical gate device by default). It's hard to actually buy all of these in one place, you have to hunt.

Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by MrGilbert on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @02:42AM (#26163755)
> Does US stores also have the ability to pick items up from a warehouse next to their stores? Btw. how is this option also a paid one is beyond me.

That's because every IKEA store is it's own warehouse. Everything you can see is the stock. There is only a small part where you can store stuff. So, instead of you running around and picking stuff from the shelves, an employee has to do it. It's basically a "convenience fee", because it's more expensive for IKEA to collect it for you then you collecting it. I'm not here to judge, though...

Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by szszrk on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @03:00AM (#26163856)
You are right that it is work that needs to be done and should be paid for, but some local companies offer transport plus assembly in the price of IKEA transport only.

Also in Poland availability is different when I try to buy same thing online, check if it's present in local store, or order the same item to be picked up by myself from warehouse next to store.

It's even weirder! Sometimes I order things that are "present in my local store" with transportation, but the actual transportation is made from a central warehouse in different part of the country. So IKEA's "availability" is clearly a concept very different from what client might think.

> So, instead of you running around and picking stuff from the shelves, an employee has to do it.

Here warehouses are usually buildings next to the actual store. So in either case employee has to pick it up from warehouse, but with "pick up from warehouse yourself" option they don't need to transport it to the store next by. I still have to pay for that extra.

It's just weird.

Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by l33tman on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @04:15AM (#26164370)
It's a bit complicated to compare the fees of a company like IKEA to the fees of small local companies, in that business sector I'm willing to guess there's a large fraction of non-tax-paying companies with worker unions non-existant etc.

IKEAs online experience is glossy but horribly non-functional, agreed :/ Had that experience in Sweden as well. There is simply no way to buy something which isn't in stock in the local warehouse either, their support actually told me to "try to buy it every day".

Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by asdfaoeu on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @03:49AM (#26164180)
Maybe those other companies are just rolling the price into the cost of the goods? I looked here at a competitor and they were both charging AUD$69 for the delivery of a sofa.
Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by Spooky23 on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @09:00AM (#26166319)
Ikea stores are franchises. Part of their operating model is that the store is the warehouse and the warehouse the store. That makes online commerce challenging as there is always a tension between the stakeholders who "owns" the sale.

I went to the Ikea in Brooklyn back in November... in that store because of limited space they actually put up a tent in the parking garage for fulfillment. It just worked awkwardly.

Other than that, the magic of a place like Ikea is they source from a global market and make it magically appear. In 2020/2021, the magic is broken because global supply chains are broken. In my own business, I have about 18 people working on sourcing various commodities, where as in 2019 we had 4 doing the same job.

Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by Griffinsauce on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @02:19AM (#26163643)
Their support systems have also fully broken down here in the Netherlands.

Phone is not available because their people are working from home (this is entirely a solvable problem...), there's no email and the chat channels are so overwhelmed that it takes a week for them to respond.

This is not a great experience when you received nothing and your delivery is marked as "delivered a week ago" in a completely borked status page.

Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by Zigurd on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @10:28AM (#26167383)
Last year I needed some bed linens. I like Ikea design, and I have some Ikea bed linens. My naive thought was that, surely, I could order bed linens online and have them delivered. No. No you can't. You just can't.

That is astounding at a time when anyone with a free website whacked together in a no-code site-builder can drop in an e-commerce widget and have a first rate online shopping experience for customers, with a "cart," check-out, payment, etc.

Even when I was willing to shop in person, Ikea's tech was a frustrating factor. You cannot tell if every component of a couch configuration you want is in stock. You can't put the stock on hold. All you get is a red/yellow/green indicator of how much stock a store has. Since a couch has several modules and each module has a separate stock item for base, back cushion, and seat cushion upholstery, the odds of getting everything in one trip approaches zero.

I cannot think of anywhere else where a few tens of millions in tech development could more obviously build billions in enterprise value.

Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by justin66 on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @02:33AM (#26163716)
Their online ordering was never any good. I hate to think it’s gotten worse.
Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by rplnt on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @02:58AM (#26163846)
It wasn't the ordering that sucked, they had very limited capacity at the stores to actually prepare the goods, as well as limited (and expensive) shipping. E.g. limiting orders per day - you had to order at midnight.
Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by brazzledazzle on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @09:17AM (#26166495)
It’s definitely both a trash online shopping experience as well as capacity issues. Considering there’s a pandemic I can’t blame them for the latter but the former deserves the criticism.
Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by mytailorisrich on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @06:06AM (#26165080)
As many others have commented, IKEA's online ordering has always been bad and so has been their service, delivery fees are also quite high (in the UK at least).

IMHO, their focus is the in-store experience and have an online offering because they feel they have to but they never wanted to develop it too much.

Even their "click and collect" service is quite bad in my experience (but maybe that was that particular store): It's not well organised in-store, the collection area looks a mess, and the employees are uncaring.

Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by vincentmarle on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @03:37AM (#26164108)
Besides the fact that the items that I needed weren’t in stock in the nearest 2 IKEA stores (which meant I had to drive 1.5 hrs to the 3rd one), the Click & Collect pickup itself was pretty seamless. Just park and scan the QR code and they bring the cart to your car.
Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by agumonkey on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @02:32AM (#26163706)
Maybe a large scale logistic issue ? just sayin, some bike store had empty shelves due to border restrictions. Maybe IKEA local store have long term inventory while the website relies on far away central warehouse that was locked ?
Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by madsohm on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @02:44AM (#26163767)
In Denmark it's even worse than sucky shipping. Here we pay to collect our purchased items ourselves. So it's the items price plus ~$6 to collect it.
Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by johnchristopher on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @03:24AM (#26164010)
IKEA's click and collect.

It's my understanding that the extra fee pays for time not spent in IKEA's alley (click) and the preparation of your purchases (collect).