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Re:UVB-76 by justusthane on Thursday November 26, 2020 @03:48PM (#25223414)
A couple months ago I got really interested in SDR (software-defined radio) for a brief period. I made a write-up on my site about my experiences (includes The Buzzer, number stations, and some other neat things): https://www.justus.ws/tech/sdr-adventures-in-shortwave/
Re:UVB-76 by tunnuz on Thursday November 26, 2020 @04:17PM (#25223588)
This is great! Thanks.
Re:UVB-76 by mrwoggle on Thursday November 26, 2020 @06:08PM (#25224209)
Thanks for this write-up!
Re:UVB-76 by mopsi on Thursday November 26, 2020 @08:19PM (#25224802)
In Russian-speaking world, the function of UVB-76 is known and scans of expired codebooks have been posted online. Long story short: it's a military communications system that uses one-time pads. Military units monitor transmissions and use unique decoding sheets to translate random numbers and keywords into messages such as "readiness level 1" or "execute action 5". It's mainly a backup system intended for use when everything else fails, because even off-the-shelf hand-cranked consumer radios would enough to receive messages, given the right decoding sheets. The amount of radio traffic on the station has usually seen an uptick during major military exercises.
Re:UVB-76 by bamboozled on Friday November 27, 2020 @01:53AM (#25226134)
Why are there sometimes strange artifacts heard on the channel?

Is that a hoax, interference or something else?

Re:UVB-76 by mike_d on Friday November 27, 2020 @03:09AM (#25226490)
Backup communication systems like this are often implemented with the most basic of components to increase reliability and ease of use in stressful situations.

The trade off is sometimes human error happens. It isn't really a big deal since the messages themselves are encrypted inside of a secure facility then transmitted to a non-secure area that handles the actual broadcast (since it would be stupid to put a massive transmitter in the room with your super secrets).

Re:UVB-76 by bamboozled on Sunday November 29, 2020 @05:15AM (#25244175)
So they’re broadcasting super-secret messages from their living rooms?
Re:UVB-76 by laretluval on Thursday November 26, 2020 @09:04PM (#25224988)
It could be a numbers station but (1) the known numerical messages are very short and (2) that wouldn’t explain why there is a buzzer.
Re:UVB-76 by conscion on Thursday November 26, 2020 @09:07PM (#25225011)
My guess would be that the buzzer is so that the listeners know the station is still "up" and hasn't been destroyed
Re:UVB-76 by merlinscholz on Thursday November 26, 2020 @09:36PM (#25225141)
Or to keep the frequency free from other transmitters, as described in the article
Re:UVB-76 by bayindirh on Friday November 27, 2020 @01:17AM (#25225959)
The buzzer is there for both to mark the frequency and signal that it's alive. Its old sequence had a hourly faster buzz which returned to normal at the beginning of the hour. It looked like this

  X:59:00 - Buzzing gets faster.
  (X+1):00:00 - Normal buzzing resumes.
I think it served as a crude hourly sync signal for some systems until GLONASS came and provided atomic level sync. This also implies that there may be other non-human systems listening for this station.

It can be speculated that Russian Perimeter (Dead Hand) system [0] may be one of the listeners.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Hand

Re:UVB-76 by gmueckl on Friday November 27, 2020 @01:55AM (#25226139)
The Wikipedia article makes the operation of that station appear to be at a level that is far more relaxed than what I would expect from a really important continuous liveness signal. So I consider the use for something as lethal as the Dead Hand system unlikely, if it even still exists.
Re:UVB-76 by bayindirh on Friday November 27, 2020 @03:04AM (#25226467)
If I understood correctly, Dead Hand has many inputs and generally stays off so, maintenance won't create unintended consequences.

If whole system (and world's fate) relies on a single buzzer, we have much bigger problems :)

Re:UVB-76 by droidist2 on Friday November 27, 2020 @01:41AM (#25226076)
Would that mean that if the buzzing stops for an extended period, Dead Hand assumes World War 3 is underway and launches the missiles?
Re:UVB-76 by bayindirh on Friday November 27, 2020 @01:51AM (#25226127)
According to available information (and speculation), perimeter listens to various inputs (which is a good thing).

It's said that it has connections to seismic and pressure sensors and can check whether communication to critical infrastructure is intact. So it keeps tabs on many heart-beat signals it seems. UVB-76 might be one of them.

Moving a low traffic radio station with an interesting sound just because a bunch of HAM radio guys doesn't make sense. It has to have some higher function to warrant the move.

With the new over the horizon radar systems Russia is deploying, I guess that signals from these would be evaluated too.

Going in to wild speculation territory, Russia's in-house CPUs would fit the bill for these kind of systems nicely.

Re:UVB-76 by danirod on Thursday November 26, 2020 @08:12PM (#25224776)
A cool alternative for getting into SDR without purchasing a real device is WebSDR, a webapp to tune and listen to SDR devices that some people have connected online, such as this one (beware, autoplays) [1].

Tune in to 4625 kHZ, and there it usually is, UVB-76, buzzing on all of its glory.

[1]: http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/

Re:UVB-76 by ckocagil on Thursday November 26, 2020 @09:32PM (#25225118)
The next step is installing Fldigi, routing the WebSDR browser audio into it and decoding various modulations.
Re:UVB-76 by sciurus on Thursday November 26, 2020 @09:44PM (#25225173)
Also, you can find a list of more public web sdrs at http://kiwisdr.com/public/
Re:UVB-76 by alibarber on Thursday November 26, 2020 @04:14PM (#25223574)
The story of Amateur Radio operators organising in order to clear their frequencies of the Soviet 'Woodpecker' (OTH RADAR System) always makes me smile: https://www.qsl.net/n1irz/woodpeck.html
Re:UVB-76 by aftbit on Thursday November 26, 2020 @04:21PM (#25223612)
More about the Duga radars. At least some of the antennas were located in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duga_radar

Re:UVB-76 by anamexis on Thursday November 26, 2020 @08:21PM (#25224812)
I appreciate that someone took the time to closed caption the audio recording of the woodpecker. But it's in Polish, so I can't understand it.
Re:UVB-76 by Metacelsus on Thursday November 26, 2020 @09:35PM (#25225135)
I'm learning Polish, where's the transcript?
Re:UVB-76 by TedDoesntTalk on Thursday November 26, 2020 @04:51PM (#25223781)
If you’re interested in this topic, be sure to read (and listen to) The Conet Project. I have all the original CDs, although they are available as mp3s free online.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conet_Project

Re:UVB-76 by fld on Friday November 27, 2020 @04:00AM (#25226770)
Another recommendation is the The BBC Radio 4 Broadcast of "Tracking The Lincolnshire Poacher", which also includes a short interview with the creator of The Conet Project:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvr6o7fBcTY

Re:UVB-76 by LeoPanthera on Thursday November 26, 2020 @05:04PM (#25223847)
It's also on Spotify, perhaps surprisingly.
Re:UVB-76 by ljf on Friday November 27, 2020 @05:20AM (#25227295)
Cheers for the tip - that is some awesome background noise but occasionally fills me with dread and fear... Still listening though, amazing bit of history.
Re:UVB-76 by digitalice on Thursday November 26, 2020 @05:23PM (#25223968)
I believe it is just a channel marker. There is further information on this site: https://priyom.org/military-stations/russia/the-buzzer

They also tracked the signal using TDoA: https://priyom.org/blog/real-buzzer-site-found!

Re:UVB-76 by aftbit on Thursday November 26, 2020 @04:12PM (#25223560)
UVB-76/The Buzzer (4625Khz) LIVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LegzZZRIqj4

Re:UVB-76 by bayindirh on Thursday November 26, 2020 @04:21PM (#25223613)
Listening to The Buzzer and other number stations (especially The Conet Project recordings) for a long time send chills down my spine.
Re:UVB-76 by jcims on Thursday November 26, 2020 @05:58PM (#25224154)
If you want to listen yourself, websdr, kiwisdr, sdrconsole and sdrsharp all provide some mechanism to listen to HF frequencies over the internet.
Re:UVB-76 by mhh__ on Thursday November 26, 2020 @04:40PM (#25223717)
I'm curious if the spooks even bother with numbers station on radio any more, I commented on some reddit spam the other day that the string of words in the comment was so low-entropy it could literally have been used as a numbers station.

It's almost more suspicious to be listening to a radio at all these days, so unless you needed coverage of areas without internet access it would make sense to just dump the numbers onto a .onion or similar.

Re:UVB-76 by bayindirh on Thursday November 26, 2020 @05:14PM (#25223906)
Some of the number stations also start to embed digital sub-bands to their normal voice transmissions. So, the communication can carry more data and carry it between autonomous systems now.

Also, while number stations broadcast over the air, the signal might not terminate at a radio receiver. It might be picked up by another system and forwarded in a different form.

A similar model is used by Chinese FireDrake jammer. There are numerous broadcast stations for FireDrake and all are fed by the same satellite radio channel (one of the audio channels of the minority radio stations) which play extremely high intensity chinese classical music which loops perfectly and lasts 60:00 minutes sharp.

When they spot a transmission they don't like, they tune the ground station to it and blast with the music. Intensity of the music drowns out the other transmission. Interesting stuff.

Also, low tech stuff is extremely resilient to outside effects. Modern IP telephony will collapse if something bad occurs. POTS, won't sneeze at it probably.

Re:UVB-76 by gspr on Thursday November 26, 2020 @05:05PM (#25223855)
Hard to beat the resilience of analog radio in the event of a disaster, though. Reddit, not so much.
Re:UVB-76 by eznzt on Thursday November 26, 2020 @06:36PM (#25224341)
>I commented on some reddit spam the other day that the string of words in the comment was so low-entropy it could literally have been used as a numbers station

You should've seen Terry Davis...

Re:UVB-76 by codezero on Thursday November 26, 2020 @04:22PM (#25223618)
The “buzzer log book” that urban explorers claimed to have found in the previous location is neat, but probably an intentional distraction or hoax.

http://www.numbers-stations.com/media/sample-uvb76-logbook.p...

Re:UVB-76 by mpalfrey on Friday November 27, 2020 @03:54AM (#25226727)
Good ol' UVB-76. The Buzzer has been around for an age.

I got _very_ into number stations a few years ago. Still have a vague interest in them these days but there's not so much traffic now. Scared the crap out of myself when I first found them though!

There's all sorts of interesting/creepy stuff out there on the airwaves.

Re:UVB-76 by dang on Thursday November 26, 2020 @05:44PM (#25224080)
Re:UVB-76 by adwi on Saturday November 28, 2020 @08:25AM (#25237365)
> A strange event occurred from 20:29 UTC to 21:33 UTC on the same day, slightly above the end of the buzzer's frequency, where there were transmissions that contained spectrogram imagery of animals, Pokémon characters, and SpongeBob characters, as well as some Latin and Cyrillic characters and phrases on the radio's waterfall. Other spectrogram imagery was also broadcast during the night and before the station stopped transmitting, indicated "73 de N." on the waterfall.
Re:UVB-76 by sitzkrieg on Thursday November 26, 2020 @09:22PM (#25225073)
its ham radio, not HAM or an acronym darnit
Re:UVB-76 by gfaure on Friday November 27, 2020 @12:20AM (#25225716)
The occurrence of images of Pokémon and Spongebob do sound out of character for the station -- is it plausible that someone with a very strong transmitter is toying with the operators?
Re:UVB-76 by rootw0rm on Friday November 27, 2020 @02:03AM (#25226181)
it literally says so right on the page. i'm fairly certain the operators don't care what the spectrogram looks like.

as far as how powerful the transmitter was, obviously the rogue transmission would be stronger for those closest to it.

Re:UVB-76 by protoman3000 on Thursday November 26, 2020 @08:49PM (#25224928)
Every time I read about numbers stations and their cryptic message history I get reminded back to this intense creepy, spooky and shocked feeling I experienced at the end of the pilot episode of a very famous older show.
Re:UVB-76 by shard on Thursday November 26, 2020 @08:56PM (#25224955)
Please share!
Re:UVB-76 by suspcbl on Friday November 27, 2020 @05:39AM (#25227435)
Re:UVB-76 by jcun4128 on Thursday November 26, 2020 @09:33PM (#25225120)
wow that dead hand idea is wild... wonder if that's spoofable/jammed to what extent would they trust it before it actually launched missiles.
Re:UVB-76 by xxpor on Thursday November 26, 2020 @04:42PM (#25223733)
For the more "I don't believe most conspiracy theories but that's some coincidence" among us, I do find it extremely interesting there was a big uptick in voice chatter in October 2016.
Re:UVB-76 by crispyporkbites on Thursday November 26, 2020 @05:19PM (#25223932)
Yes literally everything in Russia is related to trump. It’s well known that everyone in Russia and the rest of the world is obsessed with American elections and trump. It’s all anyone ever talks or thinks about. This station was started on 1973 when trump was a young man in America. Coincidence? I think not
Re:UVB-76 by learnstats2 on Thursday November 26, 2020 @07:30PM (#25224561)
Wikipedia article makes it clear was an uptick in observed/known voice chatter.

That the public might be likely to observe more thoroughly makes it less of a coincidence.

Re:UVB-76 by dilyevsky on Thursday November 26, 2020 @06:22PM (#25224276)
That was around the time russian consulates etc were being booted off and other political turmoil due to changes in the white house residents. Don’t need conspiracy theory to explain this
Re:UVB-76 by sbelskie on Thursday November 26, 2020 @05:13PM (#25223897)
Would that really be a “conspiracy”?
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Re:UVB-76 by dilyevsky on Thursday November 26, 2020 @06:18PM (#25224259)
The so called “russian dossier “ ended up being complete fabrication. Im sure putin would very much like to be as powerful as certain american news sources make him out to be (due to optics). “Fsb rigged the election” is just birther movement of the left
Re:UVB-76 by TheOtherHobbes on Thursday November 26, 2020 @06:33PM (#25224325)
There's far more hard evidence for Russian interference in Brexit and the US far-right - actually the far-right across the West - than there ever was for the birther nonsense.

For example, there's an almost endless wave of this kind of thing:

https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-election-russia-disinfor...

Re:UVB-76 by dilyevsky on Thursday November 26, 2020 @06:45PM (#25224373)
See my reply to sibling thread
Re:UVB-76 by archagon on Thursday November 26, 2020 @07:36PM (#25224592)
No? Much of it remains true, "true enough", or potentially true, unless I missed a blowout news story that invalidates this entire page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steele_dossier#Veracity_and_co...

Incidentally, I feel like I've been seeing a trickle of propaganda over the last few months attempting to outright discredit the dossier. People repeat that it's a "complete fabrication" as if it's a universally agreed-upon fact.

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Re:UVB-76 by archagon on Thursday November 26, 2020 @07:44PM (#25224637)
A bunch of speculative research by anonymous third-party sources in a Russian-language paper with little journalistic cachet is your evidence?
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Re:UVB-76 by ghayes on Thursday November 26, 2020 @08:54PM (#25224948)
We should refrain from ad hominem statements and stick to the merits of the argument. Personally, I agree with GP that Meduza doesn't really inspire confidence in its reporting here.
Re:UVB-76 by dilyevsky on Thursday November 26, 2020 @09:03PM (#25224984)
I mean it’s no cnn with their incredibly high standards i agree ;) also did you notice many links to other sources?
Re:UVB-76 by archagon on Thursday November 26, 2020 @07:53PM (#25224678)
All I see in this article is a bunch of "anonymous Twitter detectives said so-and-so". This does not feel like reputable investigative journalism to me.
Re:UVB-76 by 01100011 on Thursday November 26, 2020 @06:35PM (#25224337)
I think the truth can be somewhat weirder than whatever the popular narrative is.

For what it's worth, I wonder if Russia is behind some of the libertarian movements of the last couple decades. I remember a decade or so ago, RT was quite fond of giving time to some of my, at the time, favorite libertarian talking heads. I think Russia might have an interest in propagating a more federalist interpretation of the US Constitution. It certainly lines up with the sort of Plutocratic system dominating post-Soviet Russia, and promotes a more isolated American foreign policy.

The real saboteurs of the 2016 election were the tone-deaf Democratic leaders. Supporting a candidate like Clinton in 2016, along with failing to effectively appreciate the threat of a populist like Trump, is really what cost them the election.

Re:UVB-76 by dilyevsky on Thursday November 26, 2020 @06:43PM (#25224364)
Do i think that russian government attempts to make inroads by financing or befriending fringe political movements of their adversaries (same as US does btw)? Absolutely! They’ve definitely had contacts with far right and left groups in the west. Pretty long stretch to directly tipping the election though

I agree though - democratic leadership needs to quit sniffing their own farts and accept some responsibility for a change. The current russian spy mania on the news actually achieves nothing and plays into putins narrative imo

Re:UVB-76 by mhh__ on Thursday November 26, 2020 @06:54PM (#25224398)
They didn't "rig" the election, that's ridiculous.

What they did do is probably coordinate with the trump campaign what they did do.

Re:UVB-76 by mhh__ on Thursday November 26, 2020 @09:18PM (#25225067)
You're assuming I'm left wing, or even american
Re:UVB-76 by dragonwriter on Thursday November 26, 2020 @09:50PM (#25225196)
> The so called “russian dossier “ ended up being complete fabrication

If you are referring to thing called the “Russia dossier” (it was about Russia, it wasn't Russian, or called Russian), no, it didn't “end up” being a complete fabrication.

Also, it's not anywhere close to the most solid evidence of the Russian influence campaign around the 2016 election.

> “Fsb rigged the election” is just birther movement of the left

No, it's not. “FSB rigged the election” is a Trumpist straw man to distract from the serious issues around the Russian interference effort and Trump campaign complicity in it, none of which is about rigging elections.