> I love how the "Streisand effect" is an example of itself.

For the Streisand effect to be an example of itself, there would have to be an attempt to ban or suppress the usage or knowledge of the idea of the effect. I don't think that's happened, so I don't see how it's self-referential.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect :

"It is named after American entertainer Barbra Streisand, whose attempt to suppress the California Coastal Records Project's photograph of her residence in Malibu, California, taken to document California coastal erosion, inadvertently drew further attention to it in 2003."

My point is that more people know about Barbra Streisand and the Streisand Effect because of Streisand's attempts to suppress information.

I'd be willing to say that there are more people that know of Barbara Streisand for being Barbara Streisand than because of the Streisand Effect. That effect is a pretty niche kind of internet term whereas Streisand was proper famous well before the internet existed. Sure, you may have TIL who she was, but let's not swipe that broad brush so freely.

People 35 and under probably know her better from her effect or as a giant mecha on South Park.

He's being pedantic, it's a "what are the odds of Lou Gehrig contracting Lou Gehrig's disease?" joke, except without a punchline.

There's also a classic Liz Carroll reel, "Barbra Streisand's Trip to Saginaw": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr2RgTmO1pI (I was in the (Saginaw) audience the night Liz named it.)

I only know her from the song.

This one?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Io3aSEkG_s

Yes but there is a version without the talking

Radio edit? https://youtu.be/OXB-k0oJ48E Yep, it’s a modern classic. :)

Here’s a “pop up” version of the music video with more details about the song: https://youtu.be/i_QOeWflG9g

>it’s a modern classic

I remember first hearing this song playing on someones phone back when the best mobile game was that nokia red ball thing.

I am 29 and have a slight clue of who she was, but I know (and known for a long time) exactly what the effect is.

In my opinion, in ten or twenty years this will shift even further and young people will know the Streisand name only because of the "effect".

I'm 57, gay, and I worship Barbra Streisand.

I'm 53, straight (male), and not at all into show tunes.

But I reckon I could still sing along with You Don't Bring Be Flowers Anymore and Woman In Love and get most of the lyrics right.

She's more my parent's era than mine, but like The Beatles and Cat Stevens, I grew up listening to my parents music...

I'm guessing anyone in theater/drama/choir classes in high schools today would also be familiar regardless orientation. Venn diagrams of those groups would probably look very circle-ish.

^Glee show fans

How long before the Streisand Effect outperforms Barbra herself?

One datapoint: I know about Streisand because of the Streisand Effect.

Make that 2. I knew about the effect for years before I learned who she was.

It outready outperformed the topic of this room for example

Not much - she's a boomer icon, but as soon as that generation kicks the metaphorical bucket...

Streisand was 22 in 1964 when her career kicked-off with Funny Girl. I think she (like Marvin Hamlisch) was more popular with the 'Silent Generation' (1928-45).

Fwiw i heard the expression first and then assumed it’s something to do with the difficulty of getting tickets

People want to get tickets because ticket are hard to get

I think duck sauce song played a role here, but otherwise the Streisand effect is pretty well known and explainable.

I wonder if we could get Barbara's lawyers to C&D any articles mentioning the Streisand effect.

Couldn't you consider a (british) super-injunction to be an attempt at suppression?

If Streisand had that kind of power at that time there could well have been no Streisand effect - though perhaps that is unconstitutional in the USA ....

We should review the wiki article discussion as a data source for this.

There is a suppression of source code.

FTFY with the following statement of alternative fact:

the Streisand Effect is fake news.

> I have never heard of Barbra Streisand...

Shit, now I feel old.

Then you're one of todays lucky 10000.

https://xkcd.com/1053/

Eh, I just looked it up and the Streisand effect was about an aerial photograph of Streisand's mansion which she wanted to hide, not about promotion of Streisand's work. So unless you downloaded that photo, I guess this is an anti-example (as in this case the effect worked in her favor, not against her).

Following that wikipedia link leads to downloading and viewing the picture.

The point is trying to hide something only makes it more known. In her case it was a picture, in this case it's software.

She was trying to take down an image that was on a niche ecological website with six downloads. It is now the example image of a Wikipedia article on a commonly used term. That's a big net loss.