Re:New Facebook tool allows employers to suppress “unionize”...
by kaibee on Friday June 12, 2020 @06:40AM
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I have no doubt in my mind that most programmers would at least listen to the pitch if it was to join a guild.
Re:New Facebook tool allows employers to suppress “unionize”...
by mcv on Friday June 12, 2020 @07:14AM
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And yet guilds are traditionally vehicles for monopoly and control. All the things Americans complain about with regards to unions, are actually guild-like behaviour.
Re:New Facebook tool allows employers to suppress “unionize”...
by Apocryphon on Friday June 12, 2020 @02:31PM
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Yes, but guilds are also the names of player-formed free associations in MMOs, which are what jumps to most software engineers' minds when they hear the word.
Re:New Facebook tool allows employers to suppress “unionize”...
by C1sc0cat on Friday June 12, 2020 @08:18AM
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And in labour organisations "guild" has some unfortunate racist conations in the USA.
Re:New Facebook tool allows employers to suppress “unionize”...
by abj on Friday June 12, 2020 @09:35AM
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Serious question - maybe the word "union" or "guild" is a branding problem? We could do some basic user research and come up with a more appealing name.(Think Universal Basic Income -> Freedom Dividend)
I'd be more likely to join an organization called "Gathered Friends for Salary Negation And Fair Treatment".
Re:New Facebook tool allows employers to suppress “unionize”...
by C1sc0cat on Friday June 12, 2020 @12:06PM
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A lot of early US workers organisations where called guilds and one of the aims was excluding BAME (to use a modern term) workers.
Also Guild does imply exclusion which is the medieval guild system which I think others have mentioned.
“Union” is a trigger word but call it an association like BMA, BALPA, or a Federation (Police) or even a guild, and everyone would be if not on board, at least willing to have a non-emotive conversation.