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Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by puranjay on Friday April 03, 2020 @02:46AM (#22766816)
I wonder what fossil treasures are sitting beneath the ice in Antarctica. Most people don't realize how massive the continent is since it doesn't show up fully on maps - it is nearly 1.5 times the size of America.

If it was a wetter, warmer place millions of years ago, it would have been teeming with life.

Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by ad404b8a372f2b9 on Friday April 03, 2020 @04:36AM (#22767309)
Just to clarify because it was unclear to me and areas are unintuitive with map projections, it's 1.5 times the size of the United States. The U.S is ~10 million km^2, Antarctica 14 million km^2, and the American continent 42 million km^2
Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by ryannevius on Friday April 03, 2020 @07:26AM (#22768087)
Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by ComputerGuru on Friday April 03, 2020 @11:50AM (#22770463)
Warning: link hijacks history.
Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by dmos62 on Friday April 03, 2020 @05:33AM (#22767578)
Just to clarify because it was unclear to me, that's North and South Americas together that make up 42 million km^2. North America alone makes up 24,7 million km^2.
Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by mkl on Friday April 03, 2020 @06:37AM (#22767870)
Some parts of the world consider the Americas one continent. See here, for example: https://old.reddit.com/r/AskEurope/comments/7nuqu2/are_the_a...
Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by trumbitta2 on Friday April 03, 2020 @09:13AM (#22768826)
Yep, for us in Italy the continents are 5: America, Eurasia, Antarctica, Africa, Oceania (Australia + New Zealand + several minor isles).

Geographically speaking, we then have North America (Canada, USA), Central America (Mexico to strait of Panama), South America, and Caribbeans.

Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by m463 on Friday April 03, 2020 @06:53AM (#22767937)
I've always thought a few school subjects should be put off until kids are mature enough to "get" them.

One is history class (much more meaningful when you are old enough to understand human nature) and another is mercator projections.

I always thought Canada was so much bigger than the US but they're about the same size - 3.5m sq miles.

Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by acqq on Friday April 03, 2020 @08:33AM (#22768514)
> another is mercator projections.

That's why for centuries the globes were both produced and used:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erdapfel

Globes -- since 1492. Every child can understand that.

Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by Loughla on Friday April 03, 2020 @09:45AM (#22769064)
One of my memories that always makes me chuckle was an argument I had with my older sibling about this. I always thought Canada was bigger than the US, but only based on how long it takes to get between city centers in the middle part.

Population density was hard for 9 year old me to grasp. But oh, boy, was I certain I was right.

Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by ComputerGuru on Friday April 03, 2020 @11:52AM (#22770487)
> I always thought Canada was so much bigger than the US but they're about the same size - 3.5m sq miles.

You can thank Mercator for that. And, these days, Google and Apple for still using it (Google Maps is a globe on PC but still Mercator on iOS. Apple Maps is Mercator only).

Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by puranjay on Friday April 03, 2020 @12:47PM (#22771259)
> I always thought Canada was so much bigger than the US but they're about the same size - 3.5m sq miles

That's because the largest state, Alaska, appears like its a part of the Canadian landmass

Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by m463 on Saturday April 04, 2020 @01:44AM (#22776439)
Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by Zenst on Friday April 03, 2020 @09:31AM (#22768946)
Does that include Greenland? - which is part of the America continent.
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Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by samatman on Friday April 03, 2020 @06:21AM (#22767816)
How strange that, of all 35 sovereign nations in the Americas, it's the citizens of the only one to have "America" in its name that call their country America!

It must be an obsession, because it couldn't be the desire to carve five syllables off our nine-syllable mouthful of a legal name.

I mean. I guess we could just call ourselves the Union, for short. Or the States, something like that.

But definitely not all three. That would just be silly.

Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by happytoexplain on Friday April 03, 2020 @08:13AM (#22768385)
You're really stretching with the word "obsession", not to mention being inflammatory. It's an abbreviation that happens to lose specificity (as you might expect of an abbreviation - therefore, one must depend on context). In addition, it's a gonna globally common abbreviation. I'm sure the relative commonness of "the US" is higher outside the US, but many people outside the US still call it America too.
Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by gerland on Friday April 03, 2020 @05:29AM (#22767550)
Which makes a great point about how big Canada is compared to the US. We seem to misuse the term "America" to point only to one part of one of the Americas. Maybe it would be actually less confusing if we would refer to North America as the Canada continent? It would reduce the name conflicts by half and we would use as proxy the biggest country on the continent. There would also be the additional benefit of people not refering to Texas as "South America".
Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by dmos62 on Friday April 03, 2020 @05:34AM (#22767582)
We could then call South America South Canadia.
Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by arunix on Friday April 03, 2020 @07:59AM (#22768289)
Bear in mind that underneath the ice, Antarctica is an archipelago, not a continuous land mass.

https://worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/18757/what...

Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by lmilcin on Friday April 03, 2020 @10:56AM (#22769807)
My understand is this is largely because the land mass was pressed down by kilometers of ice. With the ice gone we can expect it to spring up very quickly same way Scandinavia did and is to some extent still doing today.

I have no idea how much can be expected to come up but my very quick and inaccurate estimation would be something like 1/8th to 1/5th of the ice thickness pressing it down.

Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by LeifCarrotson on Friday April 03, 2020 @11:48AM (#22770440)
If the land mass springs up, does somewhere (everywhere?) else on the planet drift down to make up for the change in volume?
Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by oblongx on Friday April 03, 2020 @01:58PM (#22772216)
Indeed. It's one of the Atlantis theories. Idea is that as North American ice disappeared the land lifted up, Atlantis was on the other end of that plate and went down into the sea respectively.

Randall Carlson has some interesting theories.

Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by sliken on Friday April 03, 2020 @03:35PM (#22773191)
Keep in mind that "spring up very quickly" to a geologist is on the order of inches per year.

There are several places currently where glaciers have melted and are experience uplifts on the order of inches a year.

Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by dntbnmpls on Friday April 03, 2020 @06:11AM (#22767757)
> I wonder what fossil treasures are sitting beneath the ice in Antarctica.

It's well understood that the arctic and antarctic has tons of oil. The arctic by itself is thought to have 22% of the world's oil/gas.

"The United States Geological Survey estimates that 22 percent of the world's oil and natural gas could be located beneath the Arctic"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_resources_of_the_Arcti...

But antarctica is more remote than the arctic and has extremely harsh weather/terrain/etc so it will probably be the last place exploited for resources. I doubt there will be mining or drilling for oil in antarctica anytime soon, if ever. The arctic is a different matter altogether.

Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by INTPenis on Friday April 03, 2020 @09:46AM (#22769073)
Why are people downvoting this? It's the real danger of finding a rain forrest beneath antarctica. Of course the oil companies already know about it.

Maybe we're too cynical but money runs the world and money will eventually bypass all environmental protections and start drilling antarctica unless we switch to more reusable energy before that.

Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by vsareto on Friday April 03, 2020 @12:56PM (#22771380)
Oil in Antarctica won't happen because of the price of running and shipping things down there. It's way different than finding a new oilfield in a country with roads and an established supply chain. I don't even think you could build pipelines that go from fields to a shipping port because of the snow and ice.
Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by lazyjones on Friday April 03, 2020 @08:11AM (#22768362)
It's still teeming with life. Antarctica has more than 400 known subglacial lakes, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Vostok
Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by timClicks on Friday April 03, 2020 @05:29AM (#22767557)
Life would have also been much different, because it still would have needed to survive for months without sun.
Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by mytailorisrich on Friday April 03, 2020 @09:24AM (#22768893)
Iirc, there are fossils of polar dinosaurs with very big eyes, a bit like deep sea creatures tend to have big eyes.
Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by agapon on Friday April 03, 2020 @09:58AM (#22769177)
This sounds interesting, so I googled it. One of the finds: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-strange-lives-of-...
Re:Evidence of 90M-year-old rainforest uncovered beneath Ant... by Jack_Knowles on Saturday April 04, 2020 @12:00PM (#22779046)
That is an interesting thought and one can only imagine the possibilities. It could alter a lot of what we know already.