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Re:California governor issues statewide 'stay at home' order by glofish on Thursday March 19, 2020 @10:31PM (#22633996)
the 25 million just does not seem realistic.
Re:California governor issues statewide 'stay at home' order by cycrutchfield on Thursday March 19, 2020 @10:41PM (#22634077)
It's pretty realistic in an unconstrained spreading scenario. That's exponential growth for you.
Re:California governor issues statewide 'stay at home' order by Animats on Thursday March 19, 2020 @11:06PM (#22634309)
It's just outside most people's experience.

Look at the graph.[1] Those are actuals, not predictions. This gets 10x bigger each week. The US is 12 days behind Italy. US at 10,000 now. 100,000 next week. 1 million in two weeks. The lockdown may slow that down. Probably not enough.

[1] https://www.ft.com/content/a26fbf7e-48f8-11ea-aeb3-955839e06...

Re:California governor issues statewide 'stay at home' order by usaar333 on Thursday March 19, 2020 @11:31PM (#22634504)
I don't see any scenario where you could hit 60% of the population that fast.

I mean sure, if you held up the same R0, yes, that math works out, but people aren't trees. They'll voluntarily socially distance, dropping R0 significantly.

Re:California governor issues statewide 'stay at home' order by dredmorbius on Friday March 20, 2020 @12:24AM (#22634866)
I wrote a basic model in Awk for US and global "RoW" (ex-China) spread of COVID-19. Both sets of confirmed-case projections (for US see comments for the mathematically correct model) are tracking remarkably close. Lagging slightly below, but only just. (Deaths have trended higher than projection for RoW, lower for US, but the delta remains only a few days.)

https://joindiaspora.com/posts/73d4e930421d0138028e002590d8e...

Exponential growth boggles the mind.

Script source: https://pastebin.com/raw/j89ZUdVq

Re:California governor issues statewide 'stay at home' order by stevenwoo on Thursday March 19, 2020 @10:52PM (#22634176)
Do you reject the SIR mathematical model for all infectious disease or the numbers chosen for the constants for covid-19 or some other reason?
Re:California governor issues statewide 'stay at home' order by wolco on Thursday March 19, 2020 @10:55PM (#22634206)
I thought so too then I did the calculations and realized it could be larger if Italy's death rates transfer.
Re:California governor issues statewide 'stay at home' order by maxk42 on Thursday March 19, 2020 @11:12PM (#22634332)
The US death rate is 1.49% and dropping rapidly.
Re:California governor issues statewide 'stay at home' order by cycrutchfield on Thursday March 19, 2020 @11:18PM (#22634375)
Only because the number of new cases is rising rapidly. "Death rate" is not a meaningful metric. What you want is "case fatality rate".
Re:California governor issues statewide 'stay at home' order by therealdrag0 on Friday March 20, 2020 @12:25AM (#22634872)
We haven't overwhelmed our healthcare system yet.
Re:California governor issues statewide 'stay at home' order by ajross on Thursday March 19, 2020 @10:41PM (#22634080)
The H1N1 epidemic in 2009 was objectively less contagious and less dangerous than COVID-19. In comparison, it grew mostly uncontained and eventually infected about a billion people. If COVID-19 was allowed to do exactly that we'd be looking at 10M fatalities, and realistically it would infect more people (being more novel than a mere flu).

The 25M number doesn't seem realistic because every country that has had a COVID-19 outbreak has freaked out trying to control it, and either succeeded via very expensive means or (in most cases) hasn't had the outbreak grow far enough to know whether or not they've failed.

Re:California governor issues statewide 'stay at home' order by wolco on Thursday March 19, 2020 @10:59PM (#22634243)
Using the billion figure best case is 40 million not accounting for which countries would be hit the hardest which would increase the rate as the systems get overwhelmed.