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Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by throwaway5752 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:06PM (#22606297)
Obviously there is no room for a constructive discussion on this. Edited to remove my post.
Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by dang on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:58PM (#22607047)
Deleting a comment after perpetuating a flamewar does nothing to unburn this place. However, we'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that the deletions mean you intend not to do this again.

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Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by throwaway5752 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @01:47PM (#22607755)
I certainly do not intend to do this again. I think under normal times it would not have been as bad. I will take particular care under current circumstances. My sincere apologies to you.
Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by dang on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @02:02PM (#22607990)
Appreciated! It makes me happy that I guessed right and didn't ban you.

I hope everyone understands that we ban users not to punish anyone, but to protect the site. If people give us reason to believe that they sincerely want to use HN as intended, we're happy to unban them, and do that all the time. Also, we make mistakes sometimes—because moderation is guesswork—and appreciate being told when we do, so we can correct them.

Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by whatshisface on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:14PM (#22606413)
I'm not sure about "Chinese Virus" but including Wuhan, the place of origin, in the systematic name is standard practice for naming viral strains.
Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by martinpw on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:53PM (#22606974)
That is no longer the case as of 2015. Place names are no longer used because of the stigmatization issues:

https://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/notes/2015/naming-new-d...

Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by ceejayoz on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:23PM (#22606544)
The WHO named it COVID-19 specifically to change that fact, as it leads to things like Asian-Americans being beat up despite having nothing to do with the virus.
Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by 2a0c40 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @02:46PM (#22608579)
COVID-19 is the disease. SARS-CoV-2 is the virus.
Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by ceejayoz on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @02:53PM (#22608703)
COVID-19 is the term media, the CDC, etc. are using to discuss it. Being pedantic about it doesn't impress anyone.

For example, https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html says "Coronavirus (COVID-19)". So does https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2....

The point: WHO has moved away from geolocated names. https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus-has-a-name-the-deadl...

Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by wollstonecraft on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:50PM (#22606929)
cf Marburgvirus
Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by BiasRegularizer on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:14PM (#22606407)
So the Chinese Gov thought the proper way to respond to racism is to fuel misinformation and conspiracy theory?
Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by commandlinefan on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:27PM (#22606605)
> racism

China is a country, not a race.

Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by anoncake on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @01:01PM (#22607079)
Races only exist in the minds of racists to begin with.
Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by BiasRegularizer on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:57PM (#22607033)
One can argue modern definition of racism has expanded much beyond race. Though I also didn't want to start a pedantic argument on the definition of racism with the original OP. Rather to point out how distastefully the Chinese Gov have acted in response to Trump and Pompeo.
Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by egdod on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:11PM (#22606361)
It's not racist to call it the Chinese coronavirus.
Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by archivist1 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:14PM (#22606405)
YeH, just like bLaCkFAcE is NoT rAciST
Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by dang on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:49PM (#22606899)
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Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by voldacar on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @07:12PM (#22611667)
back to reddit
Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by egdod on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:25PM (#22606582)
Is it racist to call food in a style that originated from China "Chinese food"?
Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by dang on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:48PM (#22606891)
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Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by allovernow on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:16PM (#22606454)
How the hell is this anything comparable to blackface?
Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by dang on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:48PM (#22606886)
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Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by dang on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @01:22PM (#22607382)
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Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by geofft on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:59PM (#22607060)
It's absolutely possible for group X and group Y to both be discriminatory against each other, and the solution is not to well "Group X is right" - the solution is to treat discrimination, from whomever, as the bad thing.
Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by lostmsu on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:53PM (#22606963)
Technically, those are not examples of racism. The later is intolerance to a (specific?) religion. Not sure about the former.
Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by hello_moto on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @01:06PM (#22607162)
We should separate Uyghurs/Tibetans and other issue.

Uyghurs/Tibetans are targeted due to their religion. The PRC ideology has no room for religion that puts Entities above nation. Uyghurs themselves have long history of rebellions to the point that nobody knows who started the tit-for-tat incident: the Uyghurs? the Han?

You can have a long-winded argument but if you don't understand their history, culture, and 1 billion problems they have, then you don't "get" why their mindset is like that just like 'Murica with their guns and their "freedom of expression".

Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by dang on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @01:30PM (#22607497)
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Re:Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December? by dang on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @01:30PM (#22607482)
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