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Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by hirundo on Monday March 16, 2020 @06:35PM (#22598877)
If this were a Bond movie, Bezos would be cackling in his secret lair about how his viral plan was coming to fruition. Bond (played by Idris Elba) would then cough on Bezos, who would whip out his antidote, which Bond would grab, escape, and release to the world before being killed by Thanos. (Pitch Meeting, call me)
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by aswanson on Monday March 16, 2020 @09:34PM (#22600551)
This may not be a movie, but there's no way in hell this timeline isn't some bored kid fresh out of doritos playing with random variables in his universe simulation.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by myself248 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @03:18AM (#22602532)
And it probably won't let us go back to the Olduvai Gorge savepoint anymore.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by w-ll on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:32AM (#22601699)
City Skylines i think has a plague disaster mod.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by reaperducer on Monday March 16, 2020 @06:58PM (#22599141)
If Bezos needs an evil villain lair for his secret headquarters, I know a fortress in the American desert with three-foot-thick stone walls, solar and diesel electricity, and its own water facilities, perched on a mountain ridge for maximum visibility 150 miles from anywhere meaningful.

Last I saw, it was for sale for $750k.

Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by Jagat on Monday March 16, 2020 @07:28PM (#22599468)
Here's the vice documentary on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mutpYD0Amfk
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by reaperducer on Monday March 16, 2020 @08:24PM (#22599957)
Not the same one. But good to know there are options. Maybe we can start a bidding war?
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by hkmurakami on Monday March 16, 2020 @07:21PM (#22599381)
He can give Larry Ellison a call to buy his island will all the infrastructure needed (Ellison owns most of Lanai island)
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by numpad0 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:21AM (#22601627)
But they already have one! These photos are so spot on, Kevin Spacey in his best time couldn't have done this.

[0] https://www.geekwire.com/2020/jeff-bezos-wants-curb-climate-...

[1] https://www.seattletimes.com/business/amazon/take-a-look-ins...

Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by tdsamardzhiev on Monday March 16, 2020 @07:07PM (#22599228)
Does it have enough bathrooms though?
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by antsar on Monday March 16, 2020 @08:58PM (#22600275)
More importantly... do those bathrooms come with toilet paper?
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by zxcvbn4038 on Monday March 16, 2020 @09:37PM (#22600570)
Bezos uses the three sea shells. Plebeians like you and me use toilet paper.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by a3n on Monday March 16, 2020 @09:12PM (#22600384)
We used to ask if we could buy backup batteries already charged. "Oh ... No reason."
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by swsieber on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:21AM (#22601629)
I bet they all have fancy japanese toilet seats or bidets.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by m1 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @03:29AM (#22602578)
Do you have anymore details?
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by cstejerean on Monday March 16, 2020 @08:41PM (#22600137)
do you have a link?
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by reaperducer on Monday March 16, 2020 @10:19PM (#22600840)
Like so many of the good things in life, this is not on the internet.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by peter303 on Monday March 16, 2020 @09:48PM (#22600632)
Give Bezos a break. His companies allows quarantined people to suffer less.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by lopis on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @07:14AM (#22603721)
So do plenty of others? Last I checked, most supermarkets, electronic stores, clothes stores, etc, all have online shops. Oh and mind you, those shops usually have curated list of products, not scamy products imported from China and sold at massive markups and inflated with fake reviews...
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by divbzero on Monday March 16, 2020 @07:22PM (#22599396)
Curse you Bezos for your evil plan to supply us with much needed goods.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by BurningFrog on Monday March 16, 2020 @09:39PM (#22600582)
And much needed jobs.

So evil!

Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by _pmf_ on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @03:31AM (#22602591)
With any job that requires urinating into bottles to keep low tier managers' KPIs good, I somewhat doubt the attribute "much needed".
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by mschuster91 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @05:13AM (#22603094)
There are a shitload of jobs that are (as coronavirus crisis and the list of jobs deemed essential in many countries shows) "much needed" for keeping a country running: anything medical, public transport, childcare/education, logistics, groceries/other food, infrastructure upkeep (electric/water/phone/internet/gas grid).

But unlike jobs that label themselves "system critical" such as banks, investment vulture funds and others of their ilk, the really essential jobs have one thing in common: extremely shitty pay, sometimes outright exploitative working conditions.

Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by BurningFrog on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:55PM (#22607011)
Lost interest when you claimed medical jobs have extremely shitty pay.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by Normal_gaussian on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @07:29AM (#22603806)
What is more "essential", the job doing the essential work or the job creating the conditions that makes others do the essential work?
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by mschuster91 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @07:54AM (#22603986)
The essential jobs are those without which society would collapse and lives be in actual danger, as well as the dependencies of these jobs.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by BurningFrog on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:31PM (#22606657)
Like all jobs, these jobs are voluntary. Workers can quit any day they want.

Since they keep showing up, they clearly think these jobs are their best option at the moment.

Here's my point: I strongly believe that you or I have neither the information or the right to judge that choice or take it away from them.

The piss in a bottle stories are just that. Amazon and Bezos have much attention and many enemies. Stories about how awful they are will always appear and circulate.

Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by cletus on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @04:44AM (#22602956)
Thing is, delivery drivers elsewhere actually do this by choice. UPS and FedEx drivers are paid for a set of deliveries. If they can do them quicker then they get the same money but for less time. In NYC finding a restroom can be a real pain and a waste of precious time. It’s far easier to urinate in a bottle on the truck and keep moving.

I imagine they eat while on the move too.

So I’m not quite sure this is the indignity you make it or to be.

Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by mschuster91 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @05:15AM (#22603101)
> So I’m not quite sure this is the indignity you make it or to be.

It is. Eating during driving is dangerous, even more so with a multi ton delivery truck. Pissing in a bottle is disgusting and a public health risk (where to properly wash hands, for one).

If delivery set prices do not cover that employees get enough time to decently work, then they have to be raised!

Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by __s on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @08:59AM (#22604440)
Their argument is that some employees will piss in bottles no matter what you pay them. Don't fall into the trap of arguing that they'd stop pissing in bottles at 100/hr
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by mschuster91 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @09:45AM (#22604800)
Some, yes, but most of those pissing in bottles are doing this because they have no other choice as they are not paid for the time they need to pee.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by ta999999171 on Monday March 16, 2020 @11:39PM (#22601397)
Just like Uber provides "jobs"?
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by TeMPOraL on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @03:35AM (#22602620)
This is not the case of shit jobs that trap people, provided by a notoriously antisocial company engaging in illegal things. This is a case of jobs critical for the society at this moment, provided at a time where half of the country is about to become unemployed.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by a3n on Monday March 16, 2020 @09:13PM (#22600393)
At the physical expense of his wage slaves.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by AnthonyMouse on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:52AM (#22601796)
The "wage slaves" are given the opportunity to leave and work at any other company that will hire them and yet willingly choose not to. That implies quite a non-traditional definition of slavery.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by modo_mario on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @03:51AM (#22602693)
Can you explain the strikes, complaints about work pressure (having to piss in bottles, ridiculous uncontextual performance requirements), high workplace injury rate compared to competitors, etc given this abundant choice.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by AnthonyMouse on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @10:29AM (#22605108)
It's a large company with thousands of employees, and the company has stepped on a lot of toes by out-competing many, many brick and mortar retailers, so there is "consumer demand" for reports of their inherent wickedness and every malcontent gets a microphone.

I repeat the same question -- if they don't like it there so much, why not go work for Walmart? Or Target, Home Depot, BJ's, etc.?

If the way they're attracting employees is by offering better pay and benefits than competitors rather than by offering a less demanding job, it's not as if that isn't public information. Why would you choose a thing and then object to the trade offs inherent in it?

People have this desire for them to do both, but if the job was less demanding then they could attract employees with less compensation, and they'd have every reason to not pay as much. So why is it wrong for employees to prefer to get paid more in exchange for fewer breaks?

It's like people hate for anybody to have a choice. If you work for Amazon you get paid more but work inflexible hours with limited breaks. If you work for Uber you get paid less but you set your own hours and can take a break whenever you want. Yet somehow both of these are put up as examples of mistreatment. They're just the trade offs inherent in the unskilled labor market.

Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by a3n on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @03:50AM (#22602682)
Yes, it does, doesn't it?
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by hr2016 on Monday March 16, 2020 @06:59PM (#22599146)
Score by Hildur Guðnadóttir
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by ceocoder on Monday March 16, 2020 @07:15PM (#22599327)
I appreciate a lighthearted thread among all the depressing scary things going on all day.

With that said - Ramin Djawadi would like to have a word with you.

Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by sib on Monday March 16, 2020 @07:17PM (#22599341)
Idris Elba, who just tested positive for SARS-CoV2...
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by VectorLock on Monday March 16, 2020 @07:08PM (#22599241)
>Bond (played by Idris Elba) would then cough on Bezos

Thats on the nose enough that I'm wondering if you knew Idris Elba just announced he had Coronavirus.

Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by swivelmaster on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @02:27AM (#22602300)
What do you think this is, Reddit? No silly comments allowed on Hacker News!

(kidding)

Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by BetaDeltaAlpha on Monday March 16, 2020 @07:08PM (#22599249)
> ...before being killed by Thanos.

I read Theranos at first.

Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by matthewfcarlson on Monday March 16, 2020 @07:39PM (#22599555)
In some ways, it thematically works better
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by aswanson on Monday March 16, 2020 @09:32PM (#22600531)
Liz Holmes inadvertently stumbles upon the cure, vindicating her reputation.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by harikb on Monday March 16, 2020 @09:53PM (#22600655)
She will be given a clue for the cure, she stumbles upon it, but nobody believes her this time. Time stone is used to rewind all the way back to 2003 in a third attempt
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by sudhirj on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @01:29AM (#22602003)
The Time Stone can't be used to "rewind" anything. Did you not listen to the 10 minutes of exposition by multiple characters on the truth about how time works?
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by mixmastamyk on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @02:28AM (#22602305)
And yet they used it that way at the end of infinity war.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by sudhirj on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @04:33AM (#22602905)
Not to rewind. Rewind implies changing something in your own past, but nobody's past changed. Only the futures of different timelines, if that makes sense.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by mixmastamyk on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:19PM (#22606496)
They made a big deal about that for a movie, considering it is all fantasy. It’s a distinction without practical meaning for storytelling purposes. Just to avoid the scene where Marty sees his own foto fade. They could have just ignored it.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by mav3rick on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @07:24AM (#22603778)
A good way to think of this is a git checkout from anywhere . And then all future commits happen in a branch / detached head state, not affecting the place you checked out from i.e. original timeline.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by jimmydorry on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @02:38PM (#22608480)
They made a big deal out of it in the movie, that the stones had to be returned to the exact time they were taken from, or else they would be changing the future of the old "head".
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by MertsA on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @09:50AM (#22604831)
That was exactly how it was used in Doctor Strange. It's just a movie, they play fast and loose with the rules all the time.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by mav3rick on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @07:23AM (#22603769)
Tony Stark then snaps his fingers...
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by yellowapple on Monday March 16, 2020 @11:27PM (#22601317)
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by Melting_Harps on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @03:51AM (#22602688)
> Meanwhile... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22598988

Jesus christ! That's enough myopic behaviour for one day, no more internet for 24 hours for me.

[dead]
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by nixpulvis on Monday March 16, 2020 @07:13PM (#22599298)
More like Mr Evil.

Prolly has a base on the dark side of the moon.

Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by hkmurakami on Monday March 16, 2020 @07:24PM (#22599420)
Ahem, that’s “Doctor” Evil.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by nixpulvis on Monday March 16, 2020 @08:17PM (#22599901)
Don't be silly, he doesn't wear a lab coat.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by baddox on Monday March 16, 2020 @08:38PM (#22600104)
More like Mr. Clean.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by lobotryas on Monday March 16, 2020 @08:24PM (#22599955)
But see, unlike Mr Evil, Bezos is competent.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by dmd on Monday March 16, 2020 @07:33PM (#22599505)
Fortunately, the new moon is just a week away, at which point the "dark side" of the moon will be facing Earth and we'll have a clear view of his base.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by dmm on Monday March 16, 2020 @08:21PM (#22599935)
The dark side of the moon always faces away from earth. It is more accurately called the far side of the moon. During a new moon the "dark side" is lit by the sun. It receives as much sunlight as the near side but always faces away from the earth.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by dmd on Monday March 16, 2020 @08:42PM (#22600140)
That was my point.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by nixpulvis on Monday March 16, 2020 @09:53PM (#22600654)
don't worry, we understood you.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by nixpulvis on Monday March 16, 2020 @08:16PM (#22599898)
I thought the new moon was a new moon each time!?
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by a3n on Monday March 16, 2020 @09:17PM (#22600427)
It used to be, but they wash it in bleach each time these days.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by gentleman11 on Monday March 16, 2020 @11:52PM (#22601465)
Think of how much money he will make selling these workers pee-bottles too
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by zxcvbn4038 on Monday March 16, 2020 @09:42PM (#22600605)
If Bezos was a villain then Amazon Basics would have Mao suits. And drones. With sharks. And lasers.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by rodneyg_ on Monday March 16, 2020 @06:49PM (#22599046)
Top comment of the month
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by sneak on Monday March 16, 2020 @07:25PM (#22599427)
Fantasy-land aside, Bezos is the CEO of the organization that runs the GovCloud AWS region, which is almost certainly designated critical military infrastructure, JEDI-loss aside.

I would be astounded if there are many billionaires in the USA who are not this moment already taking chloroquine/hydroxychloroquine in the recommended prophylaxis doses, even outside of those deemed mission-critical by the most powerful organization on the continent.

Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by Johnny555 on Monday March 16, 2020 @10:00PM (#22600701)
I'm no billionaire, but if I were, I'd either be on my yacht offshore or at my island retreat. Not sure I'd take an anti-malaria drug in the hope it gave me some protection from the pandemic.
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by toast0 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @12:52AM (#22601797)
Well, maybe in the hopes it would give you weird dreams?
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by rblatz on Monday March 16, 2020 @08:31PM (#22600032)
I’m a bit confused why would an anti-parasite drug be used now for covid-19
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by CrazyStat on Monday March 16, 2020 @09:14PM (#22600410)
There is some evidence supporting its use, e.g. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/32150618/
Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by Amygaz on Monday March 16, 2020 @09:21PM (#22600457)
It should help alleviating the symptoms, but is in no way a antiviral.

There's a phase 3 trial for treating pneumonia associated with coronavirus. This is based on prior work showing anti-inflammatory response in rheumatoid arthritis (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8278823).

Note that the trial is happening in China (https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04261517), where the barriers of entry and approval are quite low.

Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by mirimir on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @01:43AM (#22602067)
> After randomization, subjects take hydroxychloroquine 400mg per day for 5 days, also take conventional treatments.

Huh. I'm on 200mg/day for rheumatoid arthritis.

I wonder if I ought to double dose for a while.

Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by Amygaz on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @01:58PM (#22607921)
Sorry for the late reply: I don't see how it would prevent infection. It could be useful post-infection, to prevent complications and inflammation. Compared that with the standard of care right now which is simply observing the patient during their recovering.

There are a fair amount of studies who took the initial in vitro results (i.e. cell culture) suggesting non-specific antiviral activity (at that level coca-cola is also an antiviral, antimicrobial, and antitumoral, by the way), into animal or human, and they just did not pan out, because it isn't an antiviral.

Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by mirimir on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @04:34PM (#22610054)
Thank you.

I'll ask my rheumatologist about increasing the dose. In case I get infected, have trouble breathing, and can't get hospital care.

Re:Amazon to hire 100k warehouse and delivery workers by a3n on Monday March 16, 2020 @09:14PM (#22600406)
They're looking at it.