Re:Building a Search Engine from Scratch
by big_chungus on Friday December 06, 2019 @04:16PM
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Maybe so, but honestly, the name is putting me off more than anything. It just doesn't sound professional, and causes me to perceive it as shady, even if it's not. The name also makes it sound like it's more about marketing "clicks" to advertisers than providing good results. None of that is necessarily true, but it's the impression the name gives. It needs to re-brand.
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Re:Building a Search Engine from Scratch
by tschakkaMarc on Friday December 06, 2019 @05:33PM
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It’s the one time where I can honestly say: The discussion we’re having within Cliqz about our brand name are even more heated and controversial than here on Hacker News (and Reddit for that matter) ... but then there is this saying: “Every brand name is shit until you surpass one billion users - than it becomes brilliant”. More seriously: we do think about it a lot - happy to get ideas.
Re:Building a Search Engine from Scratch
by big_chungus on Friday December 06, 2019 @08:30PM
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Thanks for responding. Honestly, knowing that there are people behind it who read HN and are humans lends it credibility. Glad to hear there may be a viable competitor to google, and I'll check it out. Mostly because the big g has started demanding re captchas on normal searches from my VPN IP, which is clean and I have owned for years. Some of the marketing I've seen mentioned, "AI-powered anti-tracking technology"; could you please elaborate on what that means?
Re:Building a Search Engine from Scratch
by sammacbeth_ on Saturday December 07, 2019 @03:34AM
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This is our anti-tracking tech we include in the Cliqz browser and also in the Ghostery Extension. We have another post lined up in the series on this (in a couple of weeks), but it's also been described in our blog posts[1] and our 2016 paper[2].
[1]: https://whotracks.me/blog/how_cliqz_antitracking_protects_us...
[2]: https://static.cliqz.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Cliqz-St...
Re:Building a Search Engine from Scratch
by liability on Friday December 06, 2019 @10:02PM
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How are there even two sides to the discussion internally?
I'd sooner cut off my left nut with a spoon than trust any company named 'Cliqz.'
You might as well name yourself "Nigerian Princes Inc."
Re:Building a Search Engine from Scratch
by tschakkaMarc on Saturday December 07, 2019 @03:28AM
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Well there are people who believe this and others who believe that ... as I said - very strong opinions (like yours) on both sides of the aisle even internally. Interesting proposal with the Nigerian Inc. - if we ever launch an email service or - better - a Spam filter, I’ll make sure to name the company Nigerian Princes Inc.!
Re:Building a Search Engine from Scratch
by NicoJuicy on Monday December 09, 2019 @06:17PM
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So what you are saying is that you trust Google more than a German/European company, where the laws are way more strict.
Enjoy 1 nut.
( Extreme comment fyi )
Re:Building a Search Engine from Scratch
by liability on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @07:39PM
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I don't have to chose between the two. I trust neither.
Put your contact info here or in your profile and I'll send a really good idea...
Re:Building a Search Engine from Scratch
by tschakkaMarc on Saturday December 07, 2019 @03:23AM
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@MarcAlHames on Twitter
Re:Building a Search Engine from Scratch
by alanbernstein on Friday December 06, 2019 @05:57PM
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In 2003, a friend told me she ignored Firefox because "it sounds like it was named by an eight-year-old boy". My response: who cares? Why does that matter in the slightest? Is "Internet Explorer" really better? Would you prefer a search engine called "Web Searcher Site"?
Re:Building a Search Engine from Scratch
by dylan604 on Friday December 06, 2019 @05:23PM
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Like DuckDuckGo is any better? I understand where you are coming from using the "z" for lulz/kool factor. At least they left a vowel in the name.
Yeah, Cliqz seems well within the range of trendy website names, unlike DuckDuckGo.
Yeah, the name "Google" definitely sounds more professional....not.
It does though. There’s a ton of services using a deliberate misspelling in their name and all of them are meh at best in my experience.
You do realize Google is a misspelling of googol right?
Re:Building a Search Engine from Scratch
by keiferski on Saturday December 07, 2019 @02:00AM
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Googol isn't, and never has, been a common word.
Re:Building a Search Engine from Scratch
by zaphod12 on Friday December 06, 2019 @05:15PM
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this is 100% because you've become inured to how strange it is. Google's name was a joke when it started.
That may be true, but Google started when I didn’t have similar preconceptions based on name yet. The trend of calling something Trackr, Suprnova etc. didn’t exist.
Now any service with a name like that seems shit compared to more readable/writeable names: Stackoverflow, Quora, datadog.
Case in point is srht.co, which rebranded to Sourcehut for similar reasons.
Replacing the 'ol' suffix in 'googol' brings 'google' much closer to common English phonetics. These could all be pronounced the same but would have been a harder sell:
* gugal -- like frugal
* gugle -- like bugle
* ghougle -- like ghoul
* googull -- like gull
Re:Building a Search Engine from Scratch
by ExtraServings on Friday December 06, 2019 @07:27PM
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So should they rebrand as Clickle?
Re:Building a Search Engine from Scratch
by big_chungus on Friday December 06, 2019 @08:29PM
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That would actually fall within the "goofy name but phonetically consistent" category that would be excusable once big, so maybe.
google is such a stupid name to be honest, and what the hell with amazon, is it some Brazilian website?
Re:Building a Search Engine from Scratch
by richardw on Friday December 06, 2019 @09:38PM
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Googol can help:
"Bezos instead named the business after the river reportedly for two reasons. One, to suggest scale (Amazon.com launched with the tagline "Earth's biggest book store") and two, back then website listings were often alphabetical."