It's a start. Looking forward to more contributions from the team.

Permissions: Commercial use, Modification, Distribution, Patent use, Private use

Envoy is indeed open source and freely-available for corporations to use. That is not what I was implying.

Amazon, out of all the big companies (Google, Netflix, Microsoft etc.), is the one with the least contribution to the open source world, despite using many of open source tools to build their AWS products.

This has become a bit of an interesting topic to me because it keeps being brought up by people who sort of just state it as fact without providing any real argument. How much is enough? One full time developer? Ten? What if the project doesn't want to merge their contributions? Amazon just got killed on HN for open sourcing all of their ElasticSearch work in a separate repository.

I feel like they can't win on open source with some of you guys.

On these figures, Amazon is behind other giants and has fewer contributions that a number of midsize tech companies like Red Hat or Pivotal (my employer).

And are github repos and stars the only way to measure open source contribution? The Xen project only has 162 stars, yet I don't think anyone would say it isn't an important project, and it's one Amazon has contributed to - if you're using a PV guest on Xen that's protected against Meltdown, chances are high you're using the Vixen mitigation that Amazon released.

Could Amazon do more? Probably. I'm not trying to say they're perfect. But this idea that they don't contribute back to open source seems pretty flawed, even by the data in your link, which seems incomplete.

But unless Amazon are hiding several hundred contributors and thousands of commits in a repo that's been magically overlooked for years, the figures tend to make them look bad.

For some reason Amazon just doesn’t want to show they had any involvement with that commit and doesn’t care about how it’s seen. From the times I’ve seen it, seems like this might by by design

You're free to set your project's license to whatever you want but why complain when it's used the way you said it can be?

That's weird ... what do you expect from, say, hammers and blenders ?

I expect people to do nice things and be kind and think of my interests. Simple tools, on the other hand (like screwdrivers and shovels and LLCs and Corporations and family trusts) should just do exactly what they are designed to do - and nothing more.

So it's possible that well-funded consumer/producers like Amazon may at times crush, overtake, or otherwise discourage some of the unpaid labor that they benefit from.

(Not trying to make a moral argument. Personally I'm a bit conflicted on consuming and producing FOSS.)

Corporations exist for the benefit of the society that grants them their charter and that charter can--and should--be revoked when the corporation acts against the best interests of that society. We do have that power, but we've forgotten about it.

I don’t see why it is different from asking a small one-man shop to take care of my infrastructure for me?

https://aws.amazon.com/opensource/