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Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by Mediterraneo10 on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @06:28PM (#19447657)
So is most truffle oil. Canned reindeer meat in the Nordic countries can be up to 40% pork. Budget-brand soy sauce might actually be "soy sauce powder" mixed with water, as opposed to something straightforwardly brewed. If you travel the developing world, you may find that what is sold as chocolate actually has no cacao in it. Lots and lots of disappointments out there in the food world. I find reading labels carefully and doing research online revelatory.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by naravara on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @07:09PM (#19447907)
All because everyone wants champagne taste on a beer budget. It reminds me of a Frank Lloyd Wright quote when someone asked for a $5k house and he says “Are you sure you want a $5,000 house? Most people want a $10,000 house for $5,000.”

They could just pitch these as cheaper substitutions and it wouldn’t be so annoying.

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by tptacek on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @07:21PM (#19447978)
You could say the same thing about vanilla, for which Cooks Illustrated was infamously not able to triangle-test a meaningful preference between artificial and real in a baked goods panel (IIRC, the Milk Bar cookbook went a step further and specified recipes that only worked with artificial vanilla). Sometimes, the artificial ("beer-grade") version is a legit advance.

A big problem with truffle oil is that it's too easy to overdo it, which is something you're less likely to do with a $200 black truffle. It's also too easy to add truffle notes to things that aren't really improved by truffle notes. And those two problems compound each other.

It can work pretty well on french fries, though!

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by naravara on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @07:37PM (#19448063)
>You could say the same thing about vanilla, for which Cooks Illustrated was infamously not able to triangle-test a meaningful preference between artificial and real in a baked goods panel (IIRC, the Milk Bar cookbook went a step further and specified recipes that only worked with artificial vanilla). Sometimes, the artificial ("beer-grade") version is a legit advance.

True. (And TBH I prefer a decent beer to an equivalent tier of champagne) People get wrapped up in the status element of the luxury good and lose sight of the actual use/enjoyment function of the good itself. If we were more comfortable letting the cheap stuff sing in its own right instead of trying to imitate the expensive things we might open a lot of doors for new innovations.

Your point about truffle oil makes me think of all those 50s cookbooks doing all kinds of weird stuff with gelatin since gelatinizing stuff wasn’t some absurdly laborious and expensive process anymore. It seems like it took a while for people to realize that entombing all foods in gelatin just because you can is actually. . . Not very good. Haha

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by moopling on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @08:08PM (#19448252)
I love the story that lobsters used to be peasant food before they became rare, and that it was limited in how frequently it could be fed to prisoners except as a "cruel and unusual" punishment.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by graphitezepp on Thursday March 21, 2019 @07:26AM (#19451039)
It wasn't they became rare, it was ubiquitous refrigeration that made them popular. It was prison food because it was basically spoiled.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by phonypc on Thursday March 21, 2019 @10:39AM (#19452833)
You typically keep lobster alive until cooking, I don't see refrigeration changing much.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by showdead on Thursday March 21, 2019 @12:19PM (#19454080)
The popularity of lobster is generally attributed to it being canned and served on the railroads (thinking that they could get away with serving cheap meat to customers in the midwest unfamiliar with it) and then people developing a taste for it.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by js2 on Thursday March 21, 2019 @11:39AM (#19453604)
My two favorite things to entomb in gelatin are vodka (jello shots) and cream (panna cotta). Mostly the latter though.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by gotocake on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @08:12PM (#19448272)
The problem with most “truffle oil” is that it’s truly vile, and if you put it next to actual truffle infused oil no one would confuse the two. The problem is that so few people have actually had truffles, never mind truffle infused oil to know. To a greater or lesser extent the same is true for vanilla, although far more people have had the real deal as a reference point.

Still vanillin is artificial, but hardly a terrible thing in its own right. As you said there are recipes where the flatter note of vanillin works better than the more subtle and complex floral notes of true vanilla. I’d argue however that truffle oil is always disgusting, and the issue of it being somehow fake or fraudulent is secondary to how nasty it is.

Still, in an application like ice cream real vanilla in generous amounts is so much nicer than artificial. Of course ice cream producers figured out that most people aren’t able to tell the difference, lacking experience with a reference point. They realized that black flecks in the mix were what people really looked for, so a market emerged. After vanilla extract is made the bean is totally devoid of flavor, but it’s now ground into flecks and sold as an additive and can be legally listed as “vanilla bean” in the ingredients.

On a semi-related note a friend recently told me that “most cinnamon is fake!” It turns out he learned that a lot of cinnamon used is cassia cinnamon, not Ceylon cinnamon. I had to explain to him that they’re both cinnamon, and both great in different applications. If you want bright, spicy cinnamon then cassia is the way to go. If you want floral cinnamon then cinnamomum verum is the way, and if you want something in between with a natural sweetness, Vietnamese cinnamon is it.

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by swish_bob on Thursday March 21, 2019 @05:39AM (#19450398)
During early tasting panels when they were adding real vanilla to some UK ice cream products there was confusion among the people running them, because nobody was mentioning the black flecks. Eventually they asked people if they'd noticed them - they had, but had assumed they were dirt/a flaw in the batch, and had been too polite to mention it ...
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by jacobolus on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @08:34PM (#19448356)
What do you think a good use for cassia cinnamon is? Those little hard candies?

Maybe it’s just that I spent a lot of time in Mexico growing up, but I think ceylon cinnamon is better for every purpose I can think of. I wouldn’t describe it as “floral” though.

My impression is that cassia cinnamon is usually used because it is cheaper.

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by gotocake on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @08:41PM (#19448385)
Definitely ideal for hot candies, and it’s good to add some kick to baked goods. Personally I’m a huge fan of using Ceylon and cassia in the same application to round out the flavor. Cassia is cheaper, but it’s not like it’s the difference between true and fake wasabi.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by tptacek on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @08:43PM (#19448393)
That may have been why it was used originally, but it's also used now because it's what people expect from cinnamon flavor; it's stronger than ceylon.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by seszett on Thursday March 21, 2019 @04:27AM (#19450117)
> IIRC, the Milk Bar cookbook went a step further and specified recipes that only worked with artificial vanilla

It's a well known fact of cooking, natural vanilla denatures above a rather low temperature (around 50°C or so, if I recall correctly) but artificial vanilla doesn't.

So if you're using vanilla in... crème anglaise (apparently that's the English name for it?) you should use artificial vanilla or pay much attention to adding the vanilla only after it has cooled down enough, but if you're doing ice cream then natural vanilla is a good choice.

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by stan_rogers on Thursday March 21, 2019 @07:41AM (#19451142)
Well, the English name for it is custard, but that tended to be mixed up with Bird's in people's minds, so a real custard in a sauce consistency gets the French name for prestige value.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by toomanybeersies on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @08:04PM (#19448230)
To be honest I'm a bit sick of truffle fries (often with parmesan on top). It's become a cliche.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by arprocter on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @08:14PM (#19448277)
>A big problem with truffle oil is that it's too easy to overdo it

A bit of a shock when a steak sandwich came slathered in it, and the menu made no mention of this

Fortunately the person who ordered it didn't mind, but I would've sent it back

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by theoh on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @07:38PM (#19448073)
I checked this out. FLW actually said (in the 30s) "a 10k house for 5K", which translates to a 200k house for 100k today.

source: https://www.jstor.org/stable/4633622

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by jahewson on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @08:24PM (#19448327)
Yes indeed. Though most of his so-called $5k houses actually ended up costing around $20k.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by rwmj on Thursday March 21, 2019 @06:13AM (#19450587)
And having leaking roofs.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by falsedan on Thursday March 21, 2019 @07:59AM (#19451262)
that's how you know it's a Frank Lloyd Wright house
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by naravara on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @07:43PM (#19448106)
Ah I misremembered the quote. Thanks. Edited and fixed
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by Tsubasachan on Thursday March 21, 2019 @05:44AM (#19450426)
Ha yeah, I have doubts that my €3 frozen pizza really has mozarella cheese made from buffalo milk on it.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by Tor3 on Thursday March 21, 2019 @04:17AM (#19450062)
> Canned reindeer meat in the Nordic countries can be up to 40% pork.

On the other hand the frozen sliced reindeer meat is 100% reindeer. The canned stuff is meatballs, which is difficult to make from reindeer or moose -- the meat contains no fat whatsoever. Thus the pork mix.

As for wasabi, what my wife says (she's Japanese) is that wasabi isn't there for its own flavor - its only job is to enhance the flavor of the food it is served with (she talks a lot about tasting the nuances, which is what Japanese food is about - it's not about taste explosions like in so many other cultures). So if you use so much wasabi ('fake' or not) that it only functions to open up your sinuses you're doing it wrong. Same with soy sauce and the like - it's not something you add just to make whatever you're eating taste like soy sauce. And she's horrified when she sees people around here (we're not in Japan) dip vegetable tempura into soy sauce. It destroyes the taste. You're supposed to only add a little salt, the same as a little salt enhances the flavor of eggs. (Add too much though and you only taste salt).

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by dalbasal on Thursday March 21, 2019 @05:29AM (#19450358)
A lot of traditional European dishes (inc Swedish meatballs) mix minced pork with a darker meat, usually beef or veal. You get the savoury flavour and colour from the red meat and the mild flavoured fat from pork. It's a similar affect "grain fattened" beef produces in a single animal, but the animal doesn't need to be an obese cow.

If you have venison in a resteraunt, it's often rare steak dishes. It's cooked rare because it's so lean, and dries up when cooked for longer. Usually the meat is trimmed, because the fat/grisle isn't as good as beef (in ye old times, venison fat was used for tallow candles instead of lard) But, not every cut is steak.

If you make sausages or minced meat dishes (meatballs, etc.) from venison, cutting it with pork or pork fat makes it much more suitable for most recipes.

Lying to consumers is not ok, but combining venison and pork is legit. My guess is that it's traditional.

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by thegeekpirate on Thursday March 21, 2019 @07:20AM (#19451003)
> And she's horrified when she sees people around here (we're not in Japan) dip vegetable tempura into soy sauce.

FWIW, tempura dipping sauce is usually ginger/mirin/daikon/sugar/soy sauce, and is far sweeter than soy sauce alone—a wonderful combination for tempura.

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by Tor3 on Thursday March 21, 2019 @07:33AM (#19451079)
I know it's a mix, not just soy sauce - still, I actually agree with my wife. Vegetable tempura is much better with just the little salt.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by lainga on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @07:40PM (#19448089)
>Budget-brand soy sauce might actually be "soy sauce powder" mixed with water, as opposed to something straightforwardly brewed.

Is this because brewed soy sauce isn't Halal?

ED: why the downvotes? That's a legitimate reason for why vinegar in most chip shops is actually "non-brewed condiment".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=642x2Y3Zla0

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by VirtualAirwaves on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @08:50PM (#19448422)
Grape/wine vinegar (usually) isn't Kosher either.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by justtopost on Thursday March 21, 2019 @08:39AM (#19451595)
Sounds like old abrahamic superstitions are still making food worse.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by tradertef on Thursday March 21, 2019 @05:46PM (#19457691)
>> Sounds like old abrahamic superstitions are still making food worse.

This comment is so ignorant.

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by tru3_power on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @07:20PM (#19447970)
Another one is Kobe beef. Real Kobe beef is from the city of Kobe in Japan and is only served in a handful of resturaunts in the US (I think 1 in NYC and a few in LV). So next time you see Kobe beef on the menu- you know it’s most likely a lie.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by tptacek on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @07:23PM (#19447985)
You can get A5 wagyu all over the place in the US. The "tell" that you're looking at fake "kobe beef" is when you could take the dish and swap "kobe" for "angus" and the dish would still make sense; so, for instance, a "kobe burger" always going to be silly and shady, and nobody would ever buy "certified angus nigiri".
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by gotocake on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @08:40PM (#19448379)
I’d add that if you don’t like ultra-rare beer then it’s kind of a waste. I’m not a fan of anything that isn’t medium, and by that temp a lot of the fine marbling is effectively lost. In short, when I finally had some real A5 I realized it was totally wasted on me. If you liked carpaccio though, it would probably be amazing. I think too often people attach value judgements to grades or things, to wine and the like, when the truth is thst individual taste is highly variable. If you like a sensibly priced bottle of wine, rejoice, it’s a good wine for you. If you’re someone who skews to the high priced bottles then that’s going to be rough on the wallet, but again that’s your taste.

The biggest mistake we make with food and drink is to “want the best” instead of wanting the best for us. There is subsitute for trying lots of different types of food and drink and choosing what you like the taste of most, not what’s most applauded by experts or in vogue.

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by mikekchar on Thursday March 21, 2019 @07:50AM (#19451207)
I eat wagyu fairly often (I live in Japan and like to buy local). Of course it's Shizuoka wagyu since that's where I live, but as others have said the difference between various regions are not that great (I go to Takayama fairly frequently and eat Hida gyu, which is rated as highly as Kobe gyu these days and it's not that much better than Shizuoka yume wagyu).

IMHO eating wagyu as a steak is a waste for essentially the reason you state. The fat softens at that temperature and because there is so much of it, the texture suffers. I'll take a long aged, lower fat, dry cured cut over that any day of the week. Where wagyu really shines is yakiniku. When it is cut thin, the fat has somewhere to go and the flavour and texture are amazing. This is one of the reasons why if you buy wagyu steak at a teppen yaki place, they will typically cut it fairly thinly.

Wagyu is not actually that expensive in Japan. I mean it's expensive, but not the ludicrous prices that people pay overseas. IIRC 100g of Shizuoka bara (stomach -- think the same cut as bacon) is about $6. Sirloin is up around $16. That's still nearly $70 a pound, but if you aren't making a steak or a roast (for which it is really completely inappropriate) it's fine. When I do yakiniku at home with my wife, between the two of us we eat 300 grams of meat and that includes the pork (Shizuoka black pork is amazing).

I really like wagyu, but there are other traditions for preparing beef that are just as good (in a different way) and not as expensive.

Edit: I forgot to mention that I typically make a roast here using thigh meat (momo) and bard it with stomach. That is a fantastic combination and I can make a 1 lb roast for less than $20.

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by tptacek on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @08:45PM (#19448396)
There's a chapter in "The Man Who Ate Everything" (which is excellent) about "Kobe", and you could sum it up as: it's a good product that is not simply a "better version" of other steaks, and if not prepared specially (as in, in dishes designed for A5 beef), it's pretty much a waste.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by gotocake on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @10:15PM (#19448773)
In my limited experience that’s a perfect way of putting it. I might have to read that book too, it seems interesting.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by tptacek on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @10:25PM (#19448815)
Highest possible recommendation. It is one of the great food books.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by tru3_power on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @07:47PM (#19448133)
Yup and honestly the two times I’ve had Kobe I really couldn’t tell the difference between the same cut as non Kobe(yet still A5 Wagyu)- except for when the bill came.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by joevandyk on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @07:53PM (#19448175)
If anyone’s curious about the difference between Wagyu and Kobe, my company has this article on the subject midway down the page: https://www.crowdcow.com/article/akemika2t/japanese-a5-wagyu...
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by jghn on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @07:53PM (#19448171)
The steakhouse in the Encore casino being built outside of Boston made the news recently for being on that Kobe shortlist
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by Quiark on Thursday March 21, 2019 @11:30AM (#19453460)
When I was in Kobe I had a hard time figuring out which restaurant sells the real thing.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by berbec on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @09:25PM (#19448557)
I got Wagu at Morimoto's in Philly. I've never had beef I could cut with my tongue.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by Ozzie_osman on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @07:27PM (#19448008)
Baby carrots are not, in fact, small carrots. They are misshapen carrots that would not sell unless they were carved into "baby carrots".
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by dragonwriter on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @07:33PM (#19448031)
> Baby carrots are not, in fact, small carrots

The ones I've gotten that still have the tops on them, and the outer skin, absolutely are; IME, what you are referring to are generally sold as “baby-cut” or “petit” carrots, rather than “baby" carrots.

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by OJFord on Thursday March 21, 2019 @07:59AM (#19451261)
I've heard this online a few times, but it doesn't gel with my experience shopping at all; I suppose it must be a regional thing.

In the UK the closest I've seen or heard of are both 'real' (whole) carrots:

Chantenay - https://www.waitrose.com/ecom/products/waitrose-chantenay-ca...

'Baby topped' - https://www.waitrose.com/ecom/products/waitrose-1-baby-toppe...

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by JoeAltmaier on Thursday March 21, 2019 @10:14AM (#19452549)
I remember a video of a processing plant that 'lathed down' regular carrots to make baby carrots. I always thought that's what they were. Since nobody buys big carrots any more, pretty much all carrots are made into baby carrots. Because they sell.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by OJFord on Friday March 22, 2019 @11:06AM (#19463223)
> Since nobody buys big carrots any more

What?! Citation sorely needed. I do, and in my experience 'big' (I would've said 'normal') carrots are stocked more abundantly than any other.

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by JoeAltmaier on Friday March 22, 2019 @12:42PM (#19464272)
70% of carrot sales by some estimates. I googled around; here's a typical summary

http://www.carrotmuseum.co.uk/babycarrot.html

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by mda on Thursday March 21, 2019 @05:41AM (#19450408)
And these fake, shaped baby carrots are truly vile. No taste, disgusting texture.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by cbluth on Thursday March 21, 2019 @10:34AM (#19452771)
I have an image in my mind of a carrot carved into the shape of a baby
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by pushpop on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @07:04PM (#19447877)
I few years ago I was was reading the back of a can of New York style hotdogs and realised the main ingredient was chicken. By a substantial margin too. Ever since then I’ve been sceptical about the contents of products I buy.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by nightfly on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @07:05PM (#19447883)
> can of New York style hotdogs

I think they've already failed at being "New York style".

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by throwaway2048 on Thursday March 21, 2019 @04:14AM (#19450050)
Are you in Europe? I notice the things they call "hot dogs" there are almost always canned, which is exceedingly odd coming from an American perspective, where the concept of a canned hot dog basically does not exist.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by pushpop on Thursday March 21, 2019 @04:29AM (#19450127)
Yes I'm in Europe. You can also buy hot dogs that are not canned - though we usually call them "sausages".
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by ryanbrunner on Thursday March 21, 2019 @07:05AM (#19450912)
Ironically, canned "hot dogs" are usually called Vienna Sausages in North America.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by toomanybeersies on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @08:05PM (#19448242)
I think that by the time that it gets processed and put in a can, you can't really tell the difference between the taste of the different meats. It just tastes like generic processed meat and sodium.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by Semaphor on Thursday March 21, 2019 @03:44AM (#19449903)
The store brand soy sauce here has 12% soy sauce and 7.1% soy sauce powder. I've been wondering if this is actually 12% soy sauce as the product is quite cheap.

> you may find that what is sold as chocolate actually has no cacao in it

In the western world, most people seem to want little to no cacao but sugar instead.

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by joecool1029 on Thursday March 21, 2019 @03:59AM (#19449978)
>In the western world

Nah really just the US has the giant value bags of Hershey's product with almost no cacao solids. The commonwealth western nations are still sweet but have higher minimums.

Don't believe me? A good benchmark is kitkat bars. Try the regular from US, Canada, England, and Japan. Only the US one tastes overwhelmingly of sugar and not chocolate. Japan's chocolate is far less sweet but they don't seem to emphasize solids as much as UK does.

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by dmos62 on Thursday March 21, 2019 @04:16AM (#19450060)
I've been recently pondering sugar tolerance. I've been avoiding it for the last few years, eating it only sometimes and moderately, checking sugar contents of processed food I buy, etc. I'm at a point where anything with more than ~30% sugar tastes bad: it gives a sort of mouth-wrinkling shock to my taste receptors; my sugar tolerance is decreasing.

Given that sugar is addictive and most producers seem to have the attitude that the more sugar you sneak into the product, the cheaper it is and the more it sells, maybe Nestle (Kitkat's producer, right?) tests for regional tolerance and puts in the maximum amount of sugar, where the person still doesn't feel an overwhelming sugar shock when tasting? Just speculation, but it's a possibility I'd investigate if I were an evil food industry mogul.

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by Tor3 on Thursday March 21, 2019 @04:31AM (#19450134)
Many (many!) years ago a friend brought some bottles of Pepsi from a trip to Egypt. I still had a couple of the bottles left until last year, when I finally ditched them. The reason he brought them was to show how the Egyptian version of Pepsi had much more sugar added (I didn't actually think that was even possible..). Then again refined sugar was invented in that region of the world and was used hundreds of years before anywhere else.

As for myself, I just hate how shop-made cakes are mostly sugar - it feels like my mouth is burning. I don't understand why they do it. Nearly everyone I know prefer home-made cakes (made from basic ingrediants, not mix bags).

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by dmos62 on Thursday March 21, 2019 @06:36AM (#19450725)
Haha, true about the cakes. If you look at baking recipes sugar is usually measured in cups. There's a bakery near my place that offers no-added-sugar items. I find them delicious. They're probably mostly targeting diabetics, but they sure have my business.

Since we're trading anecdotes, I was told that in Egypt people drink sugar drinks, like Cocacola, like you would drink alcohol in the West. Islam forbids drinking alcohol, so they use the next most boring drug: sugar. The picture that was painted for me was a group of grown men sitting around a cafe-bar drinking Cocacola.

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by notyourday on Wednesday March 20, 2019 @08:23PM (#19448326)
There's no such thing as a non-synthetic truffle oil. It is not made from truffles what so ever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truffle_oil

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by WillyF on Thursday March 21, 2019 @11:13AM (#19453263)
Even "real" truffle oil (or butter or some other fat) need not contain real truffles. It's quite easy to infuse fats with truffle aroma. If you put truffles and a fat (with sufficient surface area in contact with the air) in an enclosed place like under a bowl in a refrigerator, you will get a very significant truffle aroma/flavor in the fat.

I've done this with Oregon white truffles (tuber oregonense) that I harvested with the help of my dog. Kept the butter frozen for over a year, and it still had the truffle aroma when I pulled it out of the freezer.

I actually think the infusion method adds a lot more flavor/aroma than adding pieces of truffle, but the pieces are clear evidence that what you bought actually came in contact with real truffles--it's pretty much just marketing.

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by seszett on Thursday March 21, 2019 @04:42AM (#19450167)
There absolutely is such a thing as truffle oil made with real truffles, and you link also says so.
Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by notyourday on Thursday March 21, 2019 @07:41AM (#19451141)
This is today as described in wikipedia

Truffle oil can be produced using any oil. Common versions use olive oil, or a more neutral flavorless oil such as canola or grapeseed oil.[6]

Some truffle oils are made with truffle residues incurred during collection or preparation for sale. Many truffle oils sold in retail markets are not made from truffles[1] but instead use manufactured aromatic compounds including 2,4-dithiapentane (one of many aroma active compounds that can be found in some truffle varietals) with an oil base. There are no regulations regarding the labeling of 2,4-dithiapentane and it can legally be called truffle aroma, truffle flavor, truffle concentrate or other similar terms, even though it is not extracted from truffles. In the United States, the ingredient may use the modifiers "organic" or "natural" as long as the components meet the federal requirements for those terms. Truffle oils range from clear to cloudy, and yellow to green, depending on the base oil used. Some include a piece of truffle in the bottle.[2] These pieces can be from any of over 200 different truffle species and may be listed as "black truffle" or "white truffle" even if not one of prized culinary varietals such as the black Périgord or white Alba truffle.

This is historic and no longer the case:

Truffle oil is frequently used as a bait for truffle-hunting dogs and pigs. Modern Italians often use a strufion, a ball of rags scented with truffle oil.[7](p87) Truffle oil has been used for this purpose since at least 1756, made by boiling truffles in olive oil and given to hunting dogs.[9]

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by seszett on Thursday March 21, 2019 @08:15AM (#19451406)
Well, this does say that "some truffle oils are made with truffle residues". Now maybe this is rare in the US, but at least in France it's the only kind of oil that is allowed to be called truffle oil (well, "huile à la truffe"). It could be called "olive oil with truffle taste" otherwise ("huile d'olive/tournesol/colza au goût truffe").

It's really not difficult to find here, and it is absolutely made with real truffle (the broken pieces that can't be sold as truffles). I don't have any at home because I don't care for it, but one I can find at my usual supermarket for example contains "TUBER AESTIVUM (1.1%)". This is known to be a so-so variety of truffle at best. The next-level product (at almost 40 €/L) specifically says that the truffle in its ingredients is "Périgord truffle (Tuber Melanosporum) 1%". This is probably a good enough truffle oil if you like that.

Looking up the products here in Belgium though, it seems like only "truffle taste" oils are available in the regular supermarkets, but that is also clear from the product names ("Bereiding van Olijfolie van Eerste Persing 99,7% met Truffelsmaak").

Re:Most Wasabi Is Fake [video] by notyourday on Thursday March 21, 2019 @09:43AM (#19452196)
Alright. We probably just have different views on what could/should be called "real". I apologize for the categorical statement I made before.