Perhaps we would have more humane suicide options if society were to stop regarding suicide as some kind of dysfunctional behavior. There are plenty of rational reasons to commit suicide, and there are plenty of cases where not committing suicide seems rather irrational.
No. "compassionate" is the description I would use.
> The parent said nothing about being in pain.
They repeatedly used the word "suffering".
> The parent posted a completely rational statement.
Not really, no.
> Here someone comes along trying to sound as though there is some moral or intellectual superiority to the opposite action
There is.
> and that this person needs help of some kind.
They do.
> Perhaps we would have more humane suicide options if society were to stop regarding suicide as some kind of dysfunctional behavior.
But in the majority of cases, it is a dysfunctional behavior.
> There are plenty of rational reasons to commit suicide,
Very few, really.
> and there are plenty of cases where not committing suicide seems rather irrational.
The absolute number may be large, but a tiny fraction of the number of people who consider suicide for irrational reasons.
Part of what makes it so _not_ compasssionate is how "lazy" the thought is; FWIW, so far _no one_ in this discussion of this issue has mentioned the OP's website: there is essentially a suicide note on it right now, claiming they have already died. The attached blog is all about suicide, and goes into their issue.
They have a protected Twitter account, a deleted Facebook, apparently Google+ (is that still a thing?), LinkedIn, GitHub, and Instagram... I have sent a message via Instagram (but the account is empty, so maybe entirely unused and abandoned).
Note: the person did not respond to me on Instagram.
Yes, though not at all for the reasons you stated. The canned suicide hotline/cheery bullshit/"you can talk to me if you're sad!1!" is absolutely awful, and not usually what a depressed person talking about their depression on the internet needs to hear. It shuts down the conversation in a way that no one can reasonably argue with, and gets the well meaning asshole who copy pasted a few phone numbers into a text box a bunch of internet points, and little else.
As someone who has fixated on and attempted suicide in the past, I now feel like that decision would have been a grave mistake. So I am glad things like the Suicide Prevention Hotline exist and are advertised by smug internet assholes because I think they do help some of the people who may be blundering into a bad decision.
This is beyond disgusting. Who comes up with these stupid laws? Take freedom and money from someone already depressed? WTF
And yes, some services will call an ambulance if they think you're in imminent danger. Others don't.
Seems like a growing minority of people these days might prefer a chat app over a phone call.
There’s also a chat on their website: http://chat.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/GetHelp/LifelineCh...
There’s more info about it here: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/faq/
I found a number of suicide prevention text numbers but I can’t vouch for any.
You think giving parent resources for help is "a negative contribution to the discussion"? Wow. Don't let your clinical word choice fool you, that's an incredibly toxic response.
While xfitm3 was being rude, do you honestly think the OP was unaware of suicide hotlines?
Do you think the parent was informing of their existence, or reminding a poster who may need a nudge in stressed state of mind?
If you are considering suicide, please don't do it. Many people want to help you.
If you're in the US, you can call the National Suicide Prevention Hotline at 1-800-273-8255, 24/7. It probably works from outside the US too.