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Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by rdtsc on Thursday October 25, 2018 @03:18PM (#18303727)
> and then you realize later that you were just being played because someone wanted to sleep with you. yikes.

I think she probably realized, that's why she brought her mom and conservative clothes.

Sometimes one way to win is to play along and lead your opponent into a trap.

Granted the trap didn't work as https://www.linkedin.com/in/rdevaul is still a director at X. Propositioning people and telling them about your open relationships during an interview process then inviting them to a drug infused festival should lead to not being a director anywhere in my opinion but maybe I am old-fashioned.

Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by icebraining on Thursday October 25, 2018 @06:09PM (#18305017)
It probably wasn't a trap, just a way to get him to hire her while avoiding unwanted advances by dressing with a clear message.
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by rdtsc on Thursday October 25, 2018 @11:13PM (#18306480)
It's a trap in the sense that if he makes a move there is a witness (mom). And she gets to pretend like she didn't understand and thought it was a business meeting to further the professional engagement and get the job she wanted. Or he gets to look ridiculous with this person he invited that came along dressed professionally and her mom came too. She can tell the story to all his "friends" and pretend like she just thought it was a "nice gesture". They will read between the lines and see what he was really trying to do. Maybe a few of them will turn to be reporters or bloggers, etc.

It didn't quite work out as well in the sense that he got to keep his job. And that's how sexism usually works with powerful people. They get golden parachutes, spend time at "sex addiction retreats for a 1 week" and they are "cured" and so on. But they are usually not punished for their behavior.

Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by ahoka on Friday October 26, 2018 @01:31AM (#18307004)
"Director of Rapid Evaluation and Mad Science at X, the moonshot factory"

The unprofessionalism should obvious by reading this "job title".

Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by kerng on Friday October 26, 2018 @01:38AM (#18307020)
Shouldn't he be fired immediately according to company policy? That poor interview candidate.
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by HillaryBriss on Thursday October 25, 2018 @05:13PM (#18304631)
> ... is still a director at X ...

one may be forgiven for wondering how long that will continue

Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by acchow on Thursday October 25, 2018 @09:26PM (#18306055)
Have you been to burning man? It is not just a "drug induced festival" for many burners.

Some people bring their 5 or 10 year old kids!

Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by mattnewton on Thursday October 25, 2018 @04:13PM (#18304196)
As a burner myself this makes me really sad that this is what people are going to think of Burning Man. Many people absolutely do bring their mother and wear whatever they want to the burn. It’s sad to consider those were done as guarding measures in this case.

There is a movement to get “Consent” ratified as the 11th principle, and I have to image for most of the people who aren’t for it, it’s because they don’t see the image problem the event has from stories like this, and wonder why people need to be reminded of something as basic as “Consent”. Well, here is why. I absolutely do not want this event I have fallen in love with to be associated with executives hitting on people and pushing drugs.

Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by drb91 on Thursday October 25, 2018 @05:14PM (#18304639)
It seems odd to take this as an indictment of burning man when it should be verboten to invite anyone to an intimate event DURING A PROFESSIONAL INTERVIEW. Wait until after the interview and try to know them on personal terms.... then maybe. Even that seems super sketchy as you could interpet it as tied to the interview.
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by mattnewton on Thursday October 25, 2018 @05:50PM (#18304877)
Actually even then, if you value your employment, I feel like this is a sacrifice you make when you cross the rubicon to director-level and above.
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by rodionos on Friday October 26, 2018 @02:31AM (#18307204)
Rubicon is a rather shallow river and is easy to cross by the way. But comparing menage-a-trois to a watershed event in human history deflates the risks taken by Caesar.
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by drb91 on Friday October 26, 2018 @03:13AM (#18307350)
I think the genocide he committed deflates it plenty.
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by drb91 on Friday October 26, 2018 @02:06AM (#18307109)
Completely agree.
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by MisterTea on Friday October 26, 2018 @12:00AM (#18306699)
It was taken as an opportunity to announce that they are in fact a "burner". I suppose that's dope or something.
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by drb91 on Friday October 26, 2018 @02:07AM (#18307113)
“See? My millions of dollars haven’t atrophied my soul.”
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by StudentStuff on Thursday October 25, 2018 @04:44PM (#18304423)
I won't go to Burning Man, and my SO won't go back after going with our friends due to the culture around the event. There are lots of great people that make an effort to go to Burning Man, but I have no desire to hang out with a good portion that are essentially mindless techbros, if I want that I can go wander over to Fremont, South Lake Union or similar.

The pervasive "fuck you, got mine" among this crowd is toxic, similar to lawbertarians espousing their beliefs. In the context of Burning Man these attitudes don't make sense, but this demographic does not reconcile their attitudes and that of what they participate in, all that matters is others have said they should go.

Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by Regardsyjc on Thursday October 25, 2018 @11:57PM (#18306685)
Have you read about the labor practices of Burning Man and related suicides?

I'm not surprised.

https://www.magneticmag.com/2018/08/report-burning-man-accus...

Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by StudentStuff on Monday October 29, 2018 @07:22PM (#18332588)
I haven't read about them, but a friend of mine got to spend quite a bit of time out on playa pre-burn as part of staff. The labor practices of the org are not great from what I heard from this friend, they ended up replacing many employees this past year with contractors it seems...
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by madeuptempacct on Friday October 26, 2018 @10:31AM (#18309521)
Sounds like a great feeling though.
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by StudentStuff on Monday October 29, 2018 @07:24PM (#18332599)
Not particularly, this attitude tends to bite the demographic that holds it in the ass as time goes on. Quite hilarious to observe as an outsider.
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by patrioticaction on Thursday October 25, 2018 @05:22PM (#18304693)
Burning Man is libertarian Mecca for acolytes of Joe Rogan.
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by wyclif on Thursday October 25, 2018 @07:33PM (#18305549)
Joe Rogan didn't ruin Burning Man. There's a long, long history of Burning Man being "over"...probably beginning with the second year it was held.
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by svantana on Friday October 26, 2018 @04:29AM (#18307617)
I was also at Burning Man 2013 (when this seems to have taken place), and some of my female friends were approached by middle aged men who offered them massages. When trying to decline politely, these men used a sort of "uptight-shaming" tactic, saying things like "you're at burning man, you need to relax". They ended up going along with it and felt very badly about it afterwards. I'm not saying this is typical, but it does occur.
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by marricks on Thursday October 25, 2018 @06:41PM (#18305248)
I think you stepped over the other key detail “mentioning an open relationship”, I don’t think they’re all together slamming burning man
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by mygo on Thursday October 25, 2018 @06:44PM (#18305269)
I don’t think this has too much to do with Burning Man. If he had even invited her to travel to a business conference with the intent to get laid it would have been the same deal.
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by jondubois on Friday October 26, 2018 @03:52AM (#18307497)
Just looking at the price of a ticket, you know straight away what Burning Man is really about.

It's a festival for rich capitalists who want to use freedom of expression as a pretext for acting out their erotic fantasies.

Rich tech people always have to put idealistic labels on everything they do.

Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by fjsolwmv on Thursday October 25, 2018 @04:55PM (#18304513)
Burning Man stopped being Burning Man over 10years ago, when people started bringing portable private hotels, if not earlier.
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by mattnewton on Thursday October 25, 2018 @05:49PM (#18304867)
I was always better last year :D

I am reminded of this article, “A brief history of who ruined burning man”

https://journal.burningman.org/2016/10/philosophical-center/...

Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by leesec on Thursday October 25, 2018 @05:04PM (#18304575)
Thank you, gate keeper of Burning Man, for deciding and letting us know what Burning Man truly is.
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by drb91 on Thursday October 25, 2018 @05:17PM (#18304655)
The ability of people to complain about things they can easily avoid never ceases to astound me.

Secondly, nobody cares what you think about burning man. That goes for everyone. Just go if you want to and enjoy it on your own terms and don’t ruin someone else’s day.

Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by thereare5lights on Thursday October 25, 2018 @05:44PM (#18304841)
The ability of people to complain about other people complaining, which they can easily avoid, never ceases to astound me.

Secondly, nobody cares what you think about other people's complaints. That goes for everyone. Just ignore it you want to and disregard it on your own terms and don't ruin someone else's day.

Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by 1024core on Thursday October 25, 2018 @05:37PM (#18304789)
> Burning Man stopped being Burning Man over 10years ago

Burners were saying that 10 years ago too.

Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by bigiain on Thursday October 25, 2018 @09:42PM (#18306122)
20 years ago. (My first burn was in '98 - the old timers existed already... "6,000 people!!! Man, this event has sold out!")
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by Eduard on Thursday October 25, 2018 @05:45PM (#18304845)
So the vibe changed?
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by rokhayakebe on Thursday October 25, 2018 @07:40PM (#18305579)
If "conservative clothes" and "bringing your mom" are irrelevant, it should not have been mentioned.
Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by throwaway2048 on Thursday October 25, 2018 @09:57PM (#18306174)
Its to head off accusations that she was "dressed like that" and other stupid nonsense.

As if that's an excuse to throw away professionalism.

Re:Google paid Andy Rubin $90M while keeping silent about a ... by bfuller on Thursday October 25, 2018 @09:51PM (#18306160)
"never without asking"