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Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by jimmies on Monday February 19, 2018 @04:05PM (#16415741)
American culture of making noise and hyping is tiring and annoying at times.

Sports events are the most prominent example. Going to popular sports matches in the US: football, ice hockey, basketball, etc. and you'll be bombarded with ads, noise, hype from the loudspeakers and flashing lights from the huge screens -- every single second you're there. When you watch the Super Bowl, you watch more ads than you watch the game. Going to a soccer game which is the most popular sport outside of the US, the only sound you'll ever hear is when the fans actually make noise. And perhaps, the announcement when they substitute players. By the way, it's quite cool to be in a high-stakes soccer match: There are volunteering leaders emerging from the crowd that orchestrate the people naturally. Noise in sports events are great, but only when they are not from the stupid flashing screens.

It's not a surprise to me that the laugh tracks were invented in America. Their presence in modern American sitcoms is annoying at best. But now, I think the producers started to realize that.

I think we are happier when we're treated like adults who know how to feel and behave.

Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by bernardino on Monday February 19, 2018 @05:13PM (#16416185)
What you said reminds me a lot of what David Foster Wallace once said in an interview:

"No, it's um... I mean, there's a difference, though, I think, between being mildly bored and but then there's another kind of boredom that I think you're talking about which is um: reading, reading requires sitting alone, by yourself, in a quiet room. And I have friends, intelligent friends, who don't like to read because they get - it's not just bored - there's an almost dread that comes up, I think, here about having to be alone and having to be quiet. And you see that when you walk in. When you walk into most public spaces in America it isn't quiet anymore; they pipe music through. And the music's easy to make fun of 'cause it's usually really horrible music. But it seems significant that we don't want things to be quiet, ever, anymore. And, to me, I don't, I don't know that I can defend it, but that seems to me to have something to do with when you feel like the purpose of your life is to gratify yourself and get things for yourself and go all the time, there's this other part of you that's the same part that can kind of, is almost hungry for silence and quiet and thinking really hard about the same thing for maybe half an hour instead of thirty seconds, that doesn't get fed at all. And it makes itself felt in the body in a kind of dread, in here. And I don't know whether that makes a whole lot of sense. But I think it's true that here in the US, every year the culture gets more and more hostile - and I don't mean hostile like angry - just, it becomes more and more difficult to ask people to read, or to look at a piece of art for an hour, or to listen, to listen to a piece of music that's complicated and that takes work to understand, because - well, there are a lot of reasons - but, particularly now in the computer and internet culture everything's so fast, and the faster things go the more we feed that part of ourselves but don't feed the part of ourselves that likes, that likes quiet, that can live in quiet, you know, that can live without any kind of stimulation. I don't know."

Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by swozey on Monday February 19, 2018 @05:26PM (#16416254)
This is why I love to escape for 1-2 weeks every 3-6 months to go camping and hiking, preferably around Olympic National Park. It's like a complete refresh except you get back from it and there's a serious chance of post-camping depression. Just don't listen to Lord Hurons Meet Me in the Woods for a few months.
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by therealdrag0 on Wednesday February 21, 2018 @11:37PM (#16435183)
I used to listen to audio-books/podcasts whenever I am doing anything mindless. But I just went on a hike this last weekend and didn't listen to anything and it was so peaceful and meditative.

A few years ago I peaked at reading 72 (mostly audio) books in a year, and since then I've been reading less and less. I realized, even though we consider reading to be healthy, that reading THAT much is is its own form of distraction/procrastination/escape.

Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by dipppy on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @11:22AM (#16421456)
That's a really great quote. Here's the video for anyone looking for the full interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?src_vid=FkxUY0kxH80&v=UKdZU9Db...
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by throwawaymsft on Monday February 19, 2018 @04:58PM (#16416092)
Here's an example of what a soccer game would look like if commented the usual way:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vJn5XxWg9U

Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by arcticfox on Monday February 19, 2018 @05:46PM (#16416375)
This is pretty hilarious, but as a fan of both American football and soccer, basically complete nonsense. Soccer commentary is pretty much just as pointless anyways, maybe even more so, since usually the analysis is a lot more ambiguous.
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by plouffy on Monday February 19, 2018 @07:16PM (#16416874)
I don't think the point of the video is suggesting that soccer commentary is better. It's simply pointing to the reality of watching NFL sport commentary where we're constantly bombarded with stats, and graphics.
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by stevenwoo on Monday February 19, 2018 @04:49PM (#16416026)
The laugh track in the last two series of Red Dwarf is incredibly off-putting, can't blame that on Americans. :)
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by eigenbom on Monday February 19, 2018 @07:43PM (#16416998)
Americans invented the laugh track. ;)
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by taeric on Monday February 19, 2018 @05:08PM (#16416157)
Aren't the players literally wearing advertisements in those sports? I find that hard on the eyes, personally. (I realize some US sports do this. Nascar comes to mind.)
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by cyphar on Monday February 19, 2018 @04:27PM (#16415882)
One thing I didn't understand when I visited the US is that people applaud in American cinemas. I don't understand why that's seen as appropriate.
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by always_good on Monday February 19, 2018 @04:57PM (#16416084)
I've only experienced that during a movie in, say, the midnight premiere of a popular sequel where people are really giddy. But I've experienced that everywhere including Paris and Prague.

I guess that's what you're referring to because it's hard to call applause during credits "inappropriate." Thought that's something I only experienced out of the States.

It's just fun. We're social animals. Nice to just go along with it instead of being judgmental.

Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by itpragmatik on Monday February 19, 2018 @05:38PM (#16416322)
Why is it considered inappropriate to be a participant with an enthusiastic crowd who loved the particular scene or movie? I think it is actually cool.
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by FeteCommuniste on Monday February 19, 2018 @04:33PM (#16415918)
Where did you go? The only time I have heard applause at a movie is when the credits roll.
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by kqr on Monday February 19, 2018 @04:44PM (#16415988)
Yeah, but why? "Good job, projector. You shine ever so brightly among us. and you never missed the screen once during the whole movie!"

Or perhaps the crowd applaud themselves for successfully going to the movies again.

The possibilities are endless.

Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by khedoros1 on Monday February 19, 2018 @05:24PM (#16416244)
A social urge to show appreciation, even when the intended recipients couldn't ever possibly hear it. I've mostly seen it in cases where excitement was already high, like the first night of a highly-anticipated movie, where something exceptionally amusing just happened.

People sometimes express emotion in ways that don't really make sense.

Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by Cyph0n on Monday February 19, 2018 @04:57PM (#16416085)
Or maybe the audience enjoyed the movie?
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by allenu on Monday February 19, 2018 @08:20PM (#16417147)
I don't think it's any different from watching a sporting event and screaming and shouting when the team scores a goal. Even if you're all alone, you want to show appreciation.
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by jjeaff on Monday February 19, 2018 @11:56PM (#16417940)
Have you ever cried because of a movie? If so, why?
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by kqr on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @12:52PM (#16422273)
I'd argue crying is a much more primal respons than the somewhat arbitrary slap your open palms together to create a noise response.
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by astura on Monday February 19, 2018 @05:29PM (#16416277)
Must be regional?

The only movie I've ever heard people applaud for was a very political movie (Fahrenheit 9/11). That's also the only time I ever had to stand in line for a movie as well. If it wasn't opening weekend, it was close to it.

Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by mgkimsal on Monday February 19, 2018 @04:41PM (#16415970)
having lived here 40+ years, and seen many movies, I think I've seen/heard applause or cheering maybe... 2 or 3x? At the end of a fantastic movie, there may be cheering. Massive stunt that fools everyone - maybe. But cheering/applause at the cinema in the US is certainly not common.
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by jjeaff on Monday February 19, 2018 @11:58PM (#16417948)
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you have mostly lived in all white areas and or watched movies that appeal primarily to white audiences.

Go watch a Tyler Perry movie or the recent black panther if you want to hear lots of clapping or cheering during a movie.

Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by mgkimsal on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @06:36PM (#16425373)
In the last 15 years yeah. Before that probably somewhat more mixed area, but possibly so on movie choices. I don't go to many 'summer blockbuster' sort of movies any more.
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by trophycase on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @01:31AM (#16418257)
I'll never forget the first time I saw a movie in Atlanta...
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by magic_beans on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @11:06AM (#16421324)
Do you not live in a big city? Nearly every movie I see ends in applause.

And when I saw Get Out...

Standing ovation at the end.

Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by sotojuan on Monday February 19, 2018 @05:17PM (#16416209)
This happens every time I go to Japan Society in NYC to see an old Japanese film.

I guess it's because it takes effort to get some of those films in good quality or because someone that represents the restoration company is sometimes present, but I don't understand why we're clapping after seeing Yojimbo or some other common film that has been easily available in HD for quite a long time.

Anyway, "Americans clapping after X" has been a meme for some time.

Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by dazc on Monday February 19, 2018 @05:11PM (#16416169)
You've never shouted at the TV then?
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by brandonmenc on Monday February 19, 2018 @06:41PM (#16416684)
This is extremely rare, but when it does happen it's during movies where the applause won't detract from the experience - like, at the final explosion scene in a fun action movie.

> I don't understand why that's seen as appropriate.

Maybe we don't understand why you're not enthusiastic to see like, the Death Star get blown up.

No one here is applauding during like, art flicks.

Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by spike021 on Monday February 19, 2018 @07:12PM (#16416839)
Not everyone in the US does this. I don't usually. It's odd, honestly, because it seems intended to honor the people who produced the film.. but they aren't there to hear or appreciate it. So.. Not sure?

If the idea is just theatergoers feeling togetherness at experiencing the film with each other, then maybe it makes sense? Yet, it's quite different.

Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by jacobush on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @02:38AM (#16418487)
God save our gracious Queen... yet she's not there to hear it, most of the time. It's just in us.
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by sundvor on Monday February 19, 2018 @05:47PM (#16416384)
Beats the heck out of shining a 1500 lumens torch everywhere in the theatre though. Or whatever output their iPhones produce, they all seem to be stuck at max brightness.
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by andrei_says_ on Monday February 19, 2018 @05:33PM (#16416298)
I found that weird, too. Along with using the term “theatre” for a projection event.
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by arcticfox on Monday February 19, 2018 @05:40PM (#16416333)
Are we not allowed to use our own words to describe things? I find it weird that in addition to our culture, foreigners are judging our language, seemingly just for fun.
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by Retra on Monday February 19, 2018 @09:21PM (#16417370)
Perhaps they are only using their own words...
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by sneak on Monday February 19, 2018 @04:06PM (#16415752)
I don’t go to sports matches very often in any country, but the american habit of yell-talking when dining out at a restaurant ruins most dinners out in the US for me. That, and televisions in establishments in which they are entirely inappropriate.
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by FeteCommuniste on Monday February 19, 2018 @04:35PM (#16415933)
Part of the yell-talking is trying to hear each other over the stupidly loud music and TVs in our restaurants. But I've noticed that even abroad Americans are louder than most nationalities when eating out.
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by always_good on Monday February 19, 2018 @05:02PM (#16416114)
I grew up listening to self-hating Americans complaining how American tourists are the worst. Then I worked in a hostel in Prague and realized how loud everyone is, and how everyone swears there's some nationality that's the worst whether it's Brazilians, the British, or the Chinese. They're never the loud obnoxious ones as they sit there sharing their bigotry out loud. It's always some other country.

The only constant is that nobody seems content just taking the upper hand of keeping their stereotypes to themselves. Everyone acts like they've lived 5 years in every country and somehow know how it all crumbles. In reality maybe they've lived in two countries and have had day-visits elsewhere. Hardly grounds for being a master of the nations.

Like someone swearing that <some city> drivers are the worst. Almost guaranteed that they grew up there.

American tourists didn't even have a bad rap where I worked in Prague because you just didn't see them compared to the daily horde of Europeans. By the time you work in the hospitality industry for a few seasonal cycles, you get burned out by the exact same conversations, like people arguing over which nation tourists suck the most. Turns out it's probably just the one you see the most of. In our case, the British. ;)

These days it's on HN where people will post the template: "I took a few day trip to <place> and it's insane how <judgmental thing that people seem to do everywhere>."

Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by ivanhoe on Monday February 19, 2018 @04:54PM (#16416059)
Speaking of the national stereotypes and loudness, just put together more than 2 Italian tourists and they're guaranteed to be the loudest in the room, they're just unbeatable... but they do it with a lot of charm, I have to admit...
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by newnewpdro on Monday February 19, 2018 @05:21PM (#16416236)
This.

Full restaurants in Italy are a deafening cacophony. It's an arms race amongst people already accustomed to yelling at eachother on a daily basis.

Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by jimmies on Monday February 19, 2018 @05:33PM (#16416301)
There are cultures in the world that are more obnoxious and more "impolite" than American in my humble opinion (and I'm not implying anything about Italian culture here). However, I think the distinction of noise in America is that it's a cheap way to make people excited, and it wears people out over time.
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by brandonmenc on Monday February 19, 2018 @06:35PM (#16416641)
Soccer is the most boring sport to watch unless you're hammered or rioting. It would be nice if they had some screens up to distract the fans.
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by white-flame on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @06:39AM (#16419602)
At least soccer keeps in the gameplay (as well as basketball, hockey, etc). Baseball and football are mostly spent waiting for very brief moments of gameplay to happen.
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by lechiffre10 on Monday February 19, 2018 @08:18PM (#16417141)
That's entirely your opinion. Tennis and Soccer are perhaps the greatest sports in my opinion. Soccer( football) involves tactics and is played like chess, whereas Tennis is about reading your opponent and is incredibly mental
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by brandonmenc on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @12:27AM (#16418063)
> That's entirely your opinion.

True, but I was replying to a snarky opinion.

Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by plouffy on Monday February 19, 2018 @07:17PM (#16416880)
I would argue that baseball, nascar or test series cricket might be more boring sober.
Re:Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head by sien on Monday February 19, 2018 @07:23PM (#16416908)
George Bernard Shaw —

'The English are not a very spiritual people, so they invented cricket to give them some idea of eternity. '