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Re:Regarding the Em Dash by quadrangle on Sunday January 07, 2018 @12:21AM (#16089365)
Multiple hyphens are awful — learn to use your compose key!
Re:Regarding the Em Dash by Freak_NL on Sunday January 07, 2018 @05:31AM (#16090260)
The compose key and its composition tables are a thing of beauty — you can even compose an uppercase ß (ss) these days: ẞ (SS). It's such a shame that neither Windows nor MacOS (or the mobile operating systems for that matter) provide this feature out-of-the-box.
Re:Regarding the Em Dash by acdha on Sunday January 07, 2018 @08:32AM (#16090790)
Mac OS has supported a similar system since the classic era – for example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key leads with Compose + ~ + n = ñ, which is Option + ~ + n on Mac OS.

https://forlang.wsu.edu/help-pages/help-pages-keyboards-os-x...

The newer system is simply holding down keys to see accented variants which feels very natural on touchscreen devices but is slower than keyboard shortcuts if you know them.

Re:Regarding the Em Dash by kps on Sunday January 07, 2018 @01:38PM (#16091956)
Mac layouts are arbitrary trees (or probably DAGs, but I've never checked) so it wouldn't be difficult to port an X Compose file.

(XKB manages to be both over-complicated and under-capable.)

Re:Regarding the Em Dash by cryptonector on Sunday January 07, 2018 @01:25AM (#16089581)
I like sticking to ASCII when I stick to English. (Of course, when I write in other languages, I use UTF-8.)
Re:Regarding the Em Dash by Symbiote on Sunday January 07, 2018 @04:28AM (#16090057)
That doesn't work outside America, where accents are often retained (café, façade, naïve) and £ or € is often needed.
Re:Regarding the Em Dash by cryptonector on Sunday January 07, 2018 @04:07PM (#16092719)
I'm OK with that. I'm in the U.S., and I comprehend my non-American English-speaking colleagues, but I don't try to be like them. The same should go the other way around. We're NOT going to standardize on one of the flavors of English -- variety is good.
Re:Regarding the Em Dash by Symbiote on Monday January 08, 2018 @10:20AM (#16097264)
Recognize, however, that it does annoy those of us outside America when something very straightforward — like the ö in my friend's name, or writing £ — doesn't work. Imagine moving to a hypothetical country with no letter C, and being told your name "must" be kryptonektor, or instead seeing %ryptone%tor.

It's fairly common for a lot of computer software to standardize on American English and American conventions, yet several of these are unique to under 1% of the world's population. This morning, a new installation of Microsoft Outlook asked for a location and timezone, yet still showed the weather for Washington DC in Fahrenheit above the calendar. The weather location was easily changed, but not the units. A well-known messaging app I installed last week shows my location as "K%©benhavn", for someone in Russia no character in the location is intelligible. A receipt from a restaurant in Europe has only about a 95% chance of correctly showing €, and maybe a 1/50 chance of showing the date in the wrong order. On an international flight between two non-English places, it's fairly common for the in-flight display to show miles and Fahrenheit with English, which I don't understand, and kilometres and Celsius with (say) Arabic, which I can't understand either — along with the other 99% of non-American connecting passengers.

I have no issue with the minor spelling differences and changes of idiom.

So yes, we mostly understand the Americans, except their measuring units and paper sizes.

> The same should go the other way around.

But it often doesn't.

Re:Regarding the Em Dash by anjbe on Sunday January 07, 2018 @03:24AM (#16089885)
Here in New Mexico ñ is very common in place names. And I’ve known people with accented names who, though they don’t insist on it, appreciate (sometimes visibly brightening) when their names are spelled accurately.
Re:Regarding the Em Dash by cryptonector on Sunday January 07, 2018 @04:08PM (#16092726)
My own name has an accent. I am always surprised when someone gets that right, but I don't insist on it.
Re:Regarding the Em Dash by Dylan16807 on Sunday January 07, 2018 @04:04AM (#16089981)
It would help if you didn't have to install special software to get a compose key.
Re:Regarding the Em Dash by Symbiote on Sunday January 07, 2018 @04:25AM (#16090046)
On Linux, you don't.

> setxkbmap -option compose:menu

For example. There will be a dialog somewhere too.

Re:Regarding the Em Dash by Freak_NL on Sunday January 07, 2018 @05:34AM (#16090270)
> There will be a dialog somewhere too.

In Ubuntu Unity and — I think — Gnome Shell:

Keyboard settings » Shortcuts » Typing » Compose key

Re:Regarding the Em Dash by BenjiWiebe on Sunday January 07, 2018 @02:53PM (#16092322)
And KDE, IIRC: system settings, input settings, keyboard, advanced, compose key.
Re:Regarding the Em Dash by Dylan16807 on Sunday January 07, 2018 @03:45PM (#16092590)
For an average computer, you're neglecting the step where you install Linux.

Even specially enabling it is a real barrier in many ways.

Re:Regarding the Em Dash by Bud on Sunday January 07, 2018 @02:13AM (#16089714)
Learn to use shift-option-hyphen, more like.