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Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by tlrobinson on Thursday November 16, 2017 @10:42PM (#15718714)
The converse is possibly even more interesting: what tech were you convinced would fail but took the world by storm?
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by OkGoDoIt on Friday November 17, 2017 @04:12AM (#15720410)
Facebook. I was convinced "social" was just a fad. Played around with the app platform in undergrad in 2008 but thought it would be stupid to build something completely reliant on a 3rd party social platform. I had the opportunity to join FB pre-IPO in 2010 but I still thought it was a fad that couldn't last. I just don't get social.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by CryoLogic on Thursday November 16, 2017 @11:57PM (#15719046)
Snapchat.

But than again if we look at their finances (and stock), they have always been in the red and are resorting to selling glasses and hotdog costumes now (huge losses).

So maybe they aren't that successful after all.

Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by Al-Khwarizmi on Friday November 17, 2017 @04:32AM (#15720504)
Yes, that one totally got me as well...

An app whose only novel idea is that the messages and photos you send delete themselves after some time, except for the fact that once they're in your friend's phone, they can of course take a screencap, or just have an app installed to store them... so the whole idea is based on cluelessness about basic security... and yet, there it is.

Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by iEchoic on Friday November 17, 2017 @05:15AM (#15720714)
It's not based on cluelessness, people are aware that there are ways to circumvent the screenshot notification. The vast majority of people don't install third-party apps to save their friends' snaps, so content you share on Snapchat is still drastically less likely to be on someone's phone forever than if you were to send it some other way.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by BronSteeDiam on Friday November 17, 2017 @06:14AM (#15721021)
I was never about security. They use FOMO to create a daily habit. When you post, people see it and react quickly, which further strengthens the addiction.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by thatgerhard on Friday November 17, 2017 @01:47AM (#15719653)
snapchat's biggest problem is the interface, it's extremely hard to use. I think the plan was to make it complicated so that older people don't get into it, turns out nobody wants to struggle using a selfie app
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by nemothekid on Friday November 17, 2017 @02:05AM (#15719763)
>turns out nobody wants to struggle using a selfie app

Tons of people use the app. The interface is central to its virality. Snap's growth wasn't a problem until Facebook did everything they could to clone it. Snaps failing because everyone is starting to realize that if you aren't GOOG or FB, you aren't worth spending $$$ on. Just the other day I saw an "OfferUp" ad on Snap that looked like a 90s banner ad. I can't tell if Snap went full self serve or if they are struggling to find people to buy on their platform. And who would after advertisers have been spoiled by FB's demographic data and GOOG's intent data?

Edit: I feel like I spend a lot of time defending snapchat when I hardly use the app.

Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by thatgerhard on Friday November 17, 2017 @03:13AM (#15720117)
IMHO even if facebook cloned all the functionality, if people found snapchat easier to use they wouldn't have jumped ship the moment it became an option.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by Double_a_92 on Friday November 17, 2017 @02:02AM (#15719752)
I think that's on purpose. So friends have to show you the app first... It kinda creates a "lock-in" effect, like "I already bothered to learn this with my friends, why change now?"
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by aspett on Friday November 17, 2017 @12:12AM (#15719118)
React.

Who would've known people would come to like JSX? I used to think it was an abomination.. now it's great.

Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by swyx on Friday November 17, 2017 @03:14AM (#15720128)
i mean.. also Javascript. people learned to live with it, and it evolved to be more tolerable through a messy mishmash of tooling and language evolution.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by barrkel on Friday November 17, 2017 @12:19AM (#15719154)
YouTube - it didn't look profitable and I thought they'd go out of business
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by hobofan on Friday November 17, 2017 @06:26AM (#15721085)
From official statements here and there, and especially the "Adpocalypse" happening this year, I doesn't look like they are profitable even now.

Sometimes I think the only thing keeping Youtube alive as a Google product is that the internet would rip them to shreds if they were to shut it down.

Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by krapp on Friday November 17, 2017 @09:15AM (#15722089)
I think Google was expecting Youtube to no longer exist as an entity in its own right, but just be a part of Google+ after they integrated all of their properties into a massive Facebook killer social media app, but that was a colossal failure.

Now, I think they want to use the infrastructure to build something that competes against Netflix and Amazon, but to do that they have to destroy the existing economic incentives for content creators and drive off as many content derivative users as they can (anyone incorporating or using licensed content, even as covered by fair use), and basically rebuild Youtube from the inside out.

Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by erik_seaberg on Friday November 17, 2017 @01:25AM (#15719521)
I was worried rampant infringement suits might kill Google.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by lj3 on Saturday November 18, 2017 @10:07AM (#15729202)
YouTube loses billions of dollars a year. If they weren't being subsidized by Google search profits, they would be out of business.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by Al-Khwarizmi on Friday November 17, 2017 @04:34AM (#15720520)
Instagram.

Sharing pictures and comenting on them, like Fotolog.com in the early 2000s, but more closed (it didn't want you to browse photos on mobile without the app)... yeah, revolutionary.

Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by zimpenfish on Friday November 17, 2017 @06:39AM (#15721165)
Flickr should have owned the simple sharing of pictures in a social network because ... they already had one. I'd consider that the biggest, most damning failure of Yahoo!'s management that they didn't immediately devote huge resources to countering Instagram when it appeared.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by ejolto on Friday November 17, 2017 @06:21AM (#15721055)
Instagram has a slick, easy to use, minimalist ui. Fotolog.com looks messy in comparison.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by joelaaronseely on Friday November 17, 2017 @03:23AM (#15720176)
Google! At the time I heard about this startup in the search space, I thought these people were idiots. Didn't they know that there was already Yahoo!, Ask Jeeves, HotBot, Alta Vista, Etc. Another search engine is doomed to failure - especially if they don't even know enough to spell "googol" correctly.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by vortico on Friday November 17, 2017 @02:57AM (#15720026)
Uber. It's a "taxi service except about half the price because it starts over with no unions". If it's so profitable, why didn't other taxi services do it instead? Is the whole reason because it lowers the bar for taxi drivers to be hired, thus reaching those who would be fine with the lower pay?
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by thaumasiotes on Friday November 17, 2017 @03:11AM (#15720103)
> If it's so profitable, why didn't other taxi services do it instead?

Because that was illegal. This isn't a secret - it's constantly mentioned by pro-Uber and con-Uber groups.

Reimagine it as "it's half the price because it is not the beneficiary of a government-granted monopoly on its business".

Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by ckarmann on Friday November 17, 2017 @12:03AM (#15719072)
Twitter
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by kobeya on Friday November 17, 2017 @12:25AM (#15719192)
It's like Facebook, but without pictures, friends, or events! Just status updates. Oh, and they're limited to 140 characters. It's going to be awesome. /s
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by sincerely on Friday November 17, 2017 @12:48AM (#15719313)
turns out restrictions can breed creativity :)
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by christophilus on Friday November 17, 2017 @10:09PM (#15727580)
Yeah. All of the tech listed here, but this one especially. When I first heard about it, I thought it was spectacularly stupid.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by ridiculous_fish on Friday November 17, 2017 @12:36AM (#15719251)
x86. Even Intel seemed bent on dismantling it with Itanium. And while they were distracted, AMD humiliated Goliath with the Opteron. It was EPIC - no wait, it wasn't!
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by jl6 on Friday November 17, 2017 @01:39AM (#15719602)
I don’t recall the Opteron stealing anybody’s lunch. It was the Athlon that outshone contemporary Pentium III chips.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by colejohnson66 on Friday November 17, 2017 @05:22AM (#15720753)
Wasn’t Itanium a good idea, just too ahead of its time?
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by blattimwind on Friday November 17, 2017 @06:25AM (#15721080)
No.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by umanwizard on Friday November 17, 2017 @12:25AM (#15719189)
Bitcoin.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by narrator on Friday November 17, 2017 @12:57AM (#15719353)
I knew about Bitcoin quite early, but I was convinced the government would shut it down. I am mystified as to why they didn't.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by tlrobinson on Friday November 17, 2017 @03:26AM (#15720193)
Possibly because it's not actually as anonymous as some people believe.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by krapp on Friday November 17, 2017 @10:23AM (#15722637)
Some governments have banned it, many haven't. It's likely that Bitcoin (and cryptocurrencies in general) aren't, and never were, the existential threat to governments as a whole that anarcho-capitalists wanted it it to be.

States and law enforcement are more likely to be concerned with what Bitcoin is used for, than the mere fact that it is used.

Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by umanwizard on Friday November 17, 2017 @10:17AM (#15722588)
The government can't just "shut down" whatever it wants in a society like the US with (relatively) strong rule of law.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by mslate on Friday November 17, 2017 @03:20AM (#15720158)
They cannot--coordinating enforcement is impossible for nation state actors, at least not yet.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by cheeze on Friday November 17, 2017 @03:50AM (#15720291)
Shutting it completely down is impossible, but making possession illegal is not.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by kenbaylor on Friday November 17, 2017 @04:36AM (#15720527)
Same here. In the early days, the price was driven by emotion. Every time there was a problem, everyone sold and the price went to the floor.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by em3rgent0rdr on Friday November 17, 2017 @12:14AM (#15719129)
Facebook
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by erik_seaberg on Friday November 17, 2017 @01:24AM (#15719511)
Myspace without stylesheets. And only your university friends even have access. Yeah, did not see that getting big.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by thatgerhard on Friday November 17, 2017 @01:46AM (#15719639)
drones
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by vortico on Friday November 17, 2017 @02:58AM (#15720032)
I can definitely understand why these have grown in popularity. Why is it a surprise?
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by thatgerhard on Friday November 17, 2017 @03:15AM (#15720135)
I don't really know, I just kinda got blindsided.. i saw 1 or 2 people playing with drones and i was like "this is a specific group of people like the model aircraft folk" and then the next day it was everywhere.

Now I can totally understand that it's an important evolution in tech and will probably solve the last mile problem (at least some of it) in the near future.

Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by sjg007 on Friday November 17, 2017 @12:25AM (#15719193)
Alexa and amazon.com
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by cm2187 on Friday November 17, 2017 @06:45AM (#15721209)
Has it taken over the world really? Techies love it but I am not convinced there is a mass market for it yet. I don't know if people really like talking to objects, and have non discoverable UIs.