Half Bakery is some awesome old-skool internet stuff. Back in the late 90s it was one of my favourite haunts. Sadly they lost all their content somehow and didn't have a full backup so, funny though it is now, there was some epic stuff on the old site that is lost forever.
Re:Halfbakery
by wpietri on Friday November 10, 2017 @10:21AM
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Very old school indeed! From the about section: "The halfbakery software is implemented as one big C CGI program, edited with vi, compiled with gcc, invoked by an Apache http server."
Only to then realise that naive flock() won't cut it on your basic NFS setup so you resort to bizarre tricks like using hard links to the lock file to emulate proper locking on NFS because they can tell you which of the racing clients won.
Those were good times... right?
Re:Halfbakery
by macintux on Friday November 10, 2017 @12:49PM
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cgic was a great library, even if it was still excruciatingly tedious to write. I'm not entirely certain whether I discovered cgic or Perl first, but I know which one I preferred writing.
Re:Halfbakery
by Analemma_ on Friday November 10, 2017 @10:50AM
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For all the gripes about cloud computing, the fact that amateurs can set up a website but also have one-click backups and redundancy is worth something. There’s a lot of offbeat web history that’s gone forever because someone’s hard drive crashed.
Always loved "Film Noir House" where every room was wired such that it narrated whatever you were doing around the house, but in the style of a Film Noir movie... "He walked into the bedroom... switched on the light..."
Re:Halfbakery
by al2o3cr on Friday November 10, 2017 @09:37AM
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There was a pretty successful Kickstarter a while back for a product ("Coffee Joulies") that was exactly that, but for your coffee mug. Little bean-shapes made of stainless steel, filled with material that changed phase at 140F.
There's also Ember [1] (also a kickstarter I think) that just made a mug with a heating element and controller to keep your beverage at a specific temperature. Using materials with specific phase change temperatures sounds like an innovative solution, but it's also grossly engineering a problem that can be solved better by $10 worth of components.
Re:Halfbakery
by fragmede on Friday November 10, 2017 @04:02PM
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Is having a processor and electronics and software and sensors, which, despite the cost of components of $10, requires electricity. Is that really that much better than just building a better thermos?
Re:Halfbakery
by larkeith on Saturday November 11, 2017 @04:51AM
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I don't know, personally I would absolutely hate having to remember to keep my mug charged - although it's a damn cool product, just not for me.
I'm not sure I can agree about a phase-change solution being overengineered, however; while the materials would be more complex, the design itself should be far simpler than an electronic mug, and exactly the same as a vacuum sealed one.
Re:Halfbakery
by grogenaut on Friday November 10, 2017 @10:46AM
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I'd also be really worried about toxicity and materials that changed phase at that temp... Or well any temp. Can it leech through the walls? I wouldn't be Keen on dropping molten steel in my coffee either.
Re:Halfbakery
by sulam on Friday November 10, 2017 @11:02AM
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Seems clear that the stainless steel is to keep the material out of your liquids. It is not molten! Keep in mind you regularly put stainless steel in your mouth and lick it.
Re:Halfbakery
by gjem97 on Friday November 10, 2017 @08:56AM
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On-demand water heaters are really only feasible if you have natural gas or propane heat in your house. The electric ones are quite feeble and expensive to operate. This is a good idea. My intuition though is that the additional up-front costs of this type of setup would be enough of a barrier that adoption would be slow.
Re:Halfbakery
by Tuna-Fish on Friday November 10, 2017 @09:39AM
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My brother uses an on-demand electric water heater he built himself (he is an ee) and it works just fine. Also, it's less expensive to operate than a tank-type heater, as there is no cooloff loss.
Re:Halfbakery
by freedomben on Friday November 10, 2017 @11:04AM
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I tend to think cool off loss is much less of a problem than people think. The insulation around those heaters is incredible.
I once turned off my water heater before leaving on vacation, and when I got back after a week the water in the tank was still probably 10 to 15 degrees F warmer than room temperature.
Re:Halfbakery
by frankus on Friday November 10, 2017 @03:04PM
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Also in a lot of cases (cool climate, electric resistance heat, water heater inside conditioned space) that heat isn't really lost, it's just offsetting heat that would have come from something like an electric baseboard heater.
I had a bad water heater in my apartment that kept turning off. It would take me 2 or 3 days to notice that there wasn't any hot water because I could usually get a few hot showers out of it before I noticed a problem.
Re:Halfbakery
by luckystarr on Saturday November 11, 2017 @04:30AM
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There are actually companies manufacturing these things but mainly to increase heat-storage capacity of water tanks for solar heating elements. They use thiosulfates (the stuff in hand warmers) or paraffin wax.
Wow, this is a blast from the past. The website looks largely unchanged from when I first visited. I think it was featured by Attack of the Show on G4TV.
Re:Halfbakery
by tinix on Friday November 10, 2017 @11:47AM
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I know this isn't 100% relevant (but used to contain half-baked ideas, for sure), but this old-school throwback also makes me remember AfroTech mods... Anyone else remember that guy?
Seems he's updated his site since the olden days... It used to be a cardboard box image with link maps over the image regions and hand-drawn stuff on the box. :D
Re:Halfbakery
by arethuza on Friday November 10, 2017 @07:14AM
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From their about page:
"The Halfbakery is a communal database of original, fictitious inventions, edited by its users. It was created by people who like to speculate, both as a form of satire and as a form of creative expression. (To learn more about what ideas are appropriate, see the help section.) "
Re:Halfbakery
by hahla on Friday November 10, 2017 @09:23AM
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I remember frequenting this site back in early early 200X's, the community was very vibrant back then. Perfect for people who always have ideas rattling around in their head.
Re:Halfbakery
by harel on Friday November 10, 2017 @08:51AM
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I always wondered why TL;DR requests are being consistently down voted. Sometimes this is not a "too long don't CARE to read" but rather "I'm not sure I'm getting what this is about without investing a few hours into it so please kind Sirs and Ladies, can you sum up in a sentence?". Thanks for responding, responders.
Re:Halfbakery
by wpietri on Friday November 10, 2017 @10:31AM
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For me, "TL;DR" inevitably implies a certain laziness. If a person really means, "I tried to understand this but I'm not getting it", maybe they could say that.
Given that the top reply to this post is a copy and paste from the first paragraph of the about page, I could see why people suspect the querent did not work very hard before posting, and so values their own time more than that of other people here. That might not be true, but I think it's on the asker to make that clearer, not the readers to guess.
Re:Halfbakery
by wpietri on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @11:29AM
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Then that would have been a good thing to say. If you say you didn't read something when you actually did, you can't blame people for taking you at your word.
Re:Halfbakery
by taneq on Saturday November 11, 2017 @08:27PM
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I've seen these kind of requests received better when they're phrased "Is anyone with more experience in the field able to summarise what's cool about this?"
1. with 1777 permissions (sticky bit set); and
2. rsynced between a cluster of systems;
and you've got a modern Function-as-a-Service backend.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sticky_bit#Usage
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid#sticky_bit
Young men + new to browsing + some imagination = Pamela Anderson was epic by then.
http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Eutectic_20water_20heater#151...
Although rendered kind of pointless with modern on-demand boilers.
[1] https://ember.com/products/ceramic-mug
( These things are amazing; if you haven't experienced one yet I recommend picking one up from REI: https://www.yeti.com/drinkware/rambler-20-oz-tumbler/YRAM20.... )
Vacuum mugs already advertise hours of heat retention. Most hot drinks aren't going to taste better after sitting for hours and hours anyway.
I'm not sure I can agree about a phase-change solution being overengineered, however; while the materials would be more complex, the design itself should be far simpler than an electronic mug, and exactly the same as a vacuum sealed one.
http://discovermagazine.com/2013/september/21-running-hot-an...
Not really terrifying.
I’d say this is a reasonable use.
I once turned off my water heater before leaving on vacation, and when I got back after a week the water in the tank was still probably 10 to 15 degrees F warmer than room temperature.
http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/lego_20case#1173590361
It's really strange to read something I wrote almost half a lifetime ago.
http://afrotechmods.com
Seems he's updated his site since the olden days... It used to be a cardboard box image with link maps over the image regions and hand-drawn stuff on the box. :D
If anybody here works at Google, here's my first post: http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Translated_20Search
"The Halfbakery is a communal database of original, fictitious inventions, edited by its users. It was created by people who like to speculate, both as a form of satire and as a form of creative expression. (To learn more about what ideas are appropriate, see the help section.) "
Seems to have been around for a long time.
Given that the top reply to this post is a copy and paste from the first paragraph of the about page, I could see why people suspect the querent did not work very hard before posting, and so values their own time more than that of other people here. That might not be true, but I think it's on the asker to make that clearer, not the readers to guess.
And I redid that same thing before posting the TL;DR;