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Re:Halfbakery by zelos on Friday November 10, 2017 @08:21AM (#15669659)
That's kind of clever:

http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Eutectic_20water_20heater#151...

Although rendered kind of pointless with modern on-demand boilers.

Re:Halfbakery by al2o3cr on Friday November 10, 2017 @09:37AM (#15670096)
There was a pretty successful Kickstarter a while back for a product ("Coffee Joulies") that was exactly that, but for your coffee mug. Little bean-shapes made of stainless steel, filled with material that changed phase at 140F.
Re:Halfbakery by rockostrich on Friday November 10, 2017 @09:43AM (#15670127)
There's also Ember [1] (also a kickstarter I think) that just made a mug with a heating element and controller to keep your beverage at a specific temperature. Using materials with specific phase change temperatures sounds like an innovative solution, but it's also grossly engineering a problem that can be solved better by $10 worth of components.

[1] https://ember.com/products/ceramic-mug

Re:Halfbakery by fragmede on Friday November 10, 2017 @04:02PM (#15673003)
Is having a processor and electronics and software and sensors, which, despite the cost of components of $10, requires electricity. Is that really that much better than just building a better thermos?

( These things are amazing; if you haven't experienced one yet I recommend picking one up from REI: https://www.yeti.com/drinkware/rambler-20-oz-tumbler/YRAM20.... )

Re:Halfbakery by maxerickson on Friday November 10, 2017 @11:11AM (#15670832)
A battery powered mug with an app isn't really any simpler of a solution than fancy ice cubes.

Vacuum mugs already advertise hours of heat retention. Most hot drinks aren't going to taste better after sitting for hours and hours anyway.

Re:Halfbakery by larkeith on Saturday November 11, 2017 @04:51AM (#15675668)
I don't know, personally I would absolutely hate having to remember to keep my mug charged - although it's a damn cool product, just not for me.

I'm not sure I can agree about a phase-change solution being overengineered, however; while the materials would be more complex, the design itself should be far simpler than an electronic mug, and exactly the same as a vacuum sealed one.

Re:Halfbakery by grogenaut on Friday November 10, 2017 @10:46AM (#15670587)
I'd also be really worried about toxicity and materials that changed phase at that temp... Or well any temp. Can it leech through the walls? I wouldn't be Keen on dropping molten steel in my coffee either.
Re:Halfbakery by maxerickson on Friday November 10, 2017 @11:14AM (#15670854)
It's isolated components of vegetable oil:

http://discovermagazine.com/2013/september/21-running-hot-an...

Not really terrifying.

Re:Halfbakery by sulam on Friday November 10, 2017 @11:02AM (#15670734)
Seems clear that the stainless steel is to keep the material out of your liquids. It is not molten! Keep in mind you regularly put stainless steel in your mouth and lick it.

I’d say this is a reasonable use.

Re:Halfbakery by zoul on Friday November 10, 2017 @11:11AM (#15670828)
It was pretty successful, but the product did not work: https://marco.org/2011/08/10/coffee-joulies-review
Re:Halfbakery by vilhelm_s on Friday November 10, 2017 @02:25PM (#15672249)
And also the Temperfect coffee mug (https://joeveo.com/), which builds the material into the coffee mug lining.
Re:Halfbakery by gjem97 on Friday November 10, 2017 @08:56AM (#15669859)
On-demand water heaters are really only feasible if you have natural gas or propane heat in your house. The electric ones are quite feeble and expensive to operate. This is a good idea. My intuition though is that the additional up-front costs of this type of setup would be enough of a barrier that adoption would be slow.
Re:Halfbakery by Tuna-Fish on Friday November 10, 2017 @09:39AM (#15670110)
My brother uses an on-demand electric water heater he built himself (he is an ee) and it works just fine. Also, it's less expensive to operate than a tank-type heater, as there is no cooloff loss.
Re:Halfbakery by freedomben on Friday November 10, 2017 @11:04AM (#15670753)
I tend to think cool off loss is much less of a problem than people think. The insulation around those heaters is incredible.

I once turned off my water heater before leaving on vacation, and when I got back after a week the water in the tank was still probably 10 to 15 degrees F warmer than room temperature.

Re:Halfbakery by frankus on Friday November 10, 2017 @03:04PM (#15672517)
Also in a lot of cases (cool climate, electric resistance heat, water heater inside conditioned space) that heat isn't really lost, it's just offsetting heat that would have come from something like an electric baseboard heater.
Re:Halfbakery by RandallBrown on Friday November 10, 2017 @01:30PM (#15671852)
I had a bad water heater in my apartment that kept turning off. It would take me 2 or 3 days to notice that there wasn't any hot water because I could usually get a few hot showers out of it before I noticed a problem.
Re:Halfbakery by mavhc on Friday November 10, 2017 @03:17PM (#15672599)
I have an on demand 10kW water heater, it's my shower.
Re:Halfbakery by luckystarr on Saturday November 11, 2017 @04:30AM (#15675624)
There are actually companies manufacturing these things but mainly to increase heat-storage capacity of water tanks for solar heating elements. They use thiosulfates (the stuff in hand warmers) or paraffin wax.