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Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by sandworm101 on Friday April 07, 2017 @09:00PM (#14064634)
The story is too good. The girl, the monkeys defending her, the policeman ... all Disney-level stuff but where are the non-disney facts? A real story always has dark sides. This one is too perfect. I'm not saying that it is all fake, rather that I don't think we are getting the entire story. I wouldn't be surprised if we eventually learn that this girl was only living with the monkeys for a very short while, that her issues are more long-standing. Perhaps the truth is that she was a disabled girl found amongst monkeys and the story has been elaborated from those simple facts.

>>> "She behaves like an ape and screams loudly if doctors try to reach out to her."

Like an ape or like a monkey? She was raised by monkeys but acts like an ape? A lay person perhaps wouldn't know the difference but by now someone with knowledge would be on site. I have been around several disabled children. The screaming and fear of being looked at or touched is not uncommon. No mention of how she reacts to being clothed? I'm no expert on feral children but I would expect that after eight years of being naked one would not be happy about clothing and that would deserve some mention ... unless of course clothing is nothing new to her.

I want to see her feet, specifically her toes. If she really hasn't ever worn shoes then her toes will show it.

http://www.drgangemi.com/kids-health/childs-shoe/

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by mojomark on Friday April 07, 2017 @11:29PM (#14065133)
"When the girl arrived at the hospital, she had wounds all over her body."

"“These aren’t Jungle Book stories, they’re often harrowing cases of neglect and abuse...”

If you read the entire article, it's clear that this isn't a fairytale story. However, the fact that Ssebunya was abandoned by his human family and 'adopted' by a primate family gives me even more affection for the animal kingdom over the human kingdom. It's just as true, but at least there's heart at the core.

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by hueving on Friday April 07, 2017 @11:55PM (#14065215)
>gives me even more affection for the animal kingdom over the human kingdom

Because humans never adopt animals? Or is it because animals never abandon their young?

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by geon on Saturday April 08, 2017 @02:47AM (#14065697)
Or kill the cubs of competing males.
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by ge96 on Saturday April 08, 2017 @03:21AM (#14065775)
That poor hippo
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by spiderfarmer on Saturday April 08, 2017 @09:15AM (#14066740)
Many, many animals do.
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by sandworm101 on Friday April 07, 2017 @11:37PM (#14065158)
I've read several articles on this. I wouldn't comment otherwise. I'd be more ready to take everything at face value had not several articles, from Indian outlets nearer to the source, drawn direct comparisons between this story and the jungle book fairytale. See the link to the NewIndianExpress article in the OP.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/2017/apr/06/ jungle-book-redux -as-eight-year-old-found-living-amongst-monkeys-in-uttar-pradesh-1590649.html

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by nwatson on Saturday April 08, 2017 @12:26AM (#14065309)
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by libeclipse on Saturday April 08, 2017 @05:35AM (#14066159)
IFLS is only good for click bait and is generally a horrible source.
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by SomeStupidPoint on Saturday April 08, 2017 @01:27AM (#14065477)
Fun fact: apes are a kind of monkey, and the English distinction is not always present in other languages.

It's quite possible you're inferring too much from a translation artifact.

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by throwanem on Saturday April 08, 2017 @06:50AM (#14066332)
Apes aren't a kind of monkey, or vice versa; apes and monkeys are both kinds of simian.
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by SomeStupidPoint on Saturday April 08, 2017 @11:19AM (#14067322)
> The simians (infraorder Simiiformes, Anthropoidea) are the monkeys, cladistically including the apes: the New World monkeys or platyrrhines, and the catarrhine clade consisting of the Old World monkeys and apes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simian

Wikipedia explains it well -- there's no way to form a monkey clade (which includes new world monkeys and old world monkeys) which doesn't include apes.

My point was many languages besides English only have a word for the clade, and don't have a specific term for "everything in the clade but apes".

The most natural use of "monkey", and the only one with useful biological meaning, is to identify it with the simians in full (as that's the smallest clade which includes everything we think of as monkeys).

Of course, that makes apes a kind of monkey.

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by debt on Friday April 07, 2017 @10:02PM (#14064847)
If it's anything like most stories similar to this where feral humans are found without proper language development she's very likely severely developmentally handicapped for life.
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by jonbarker on Friday April 07, 2017 @11:04PM (#14065064)
Or she has some special mental capabilities due to the lack of linear thinking which is enforced by early language acquisition.
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by drdeca on Saturday April 08, 2017 @12:30AM (#14065319)
Hm? Examples?
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by nnain on Saturday April 08, 2017 @12:45AM (#14065354)
She can survive in a jungle for years, and communicate with a troop of monkeys. You need examples still?
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by drdeca on Saturday April 08, 2017 @01:13AM (#14065432)
I was thinking more regarding the "linear thinking" part
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by throwanem on Saturday April 08, 2017 @06:53AM (#14066336)
What's so special about the kind of life humans led before the invention of agriculture? Unusual these days, sure, but...
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by jonbarker on Saturday April 08, 2017 @12:56AM (#14065378)
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by nmridul on Saturday April 08, 2017 @02:15AM (#14065588)
In India, specially in remote parts, kids would be seen running around without shoes. And many of them don't have access to even simple slippers.
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by zerr on Saturday April 08, 2017 @02:26AM (#14065625)
India has a space program and modern military, so why don't they fund "slippers" and such basic needs for population?
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by sliken on Saturday April 08, 2017 @03:35AM (#14065808)
When I was growing up (early 70s) summer meant barefoot for kids. I've talked to many others from PA, California, and Texas and they said similar.

What's wrong with kids running around barefoot?

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by Blahah on Saturday April 08, 2017 @09:54AM (#14066902)
Depending on where you live in the world, a lot of infectious diseases can spread by either wounds on the foot or vectors invading through the sole of the foot.
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by ianamartin on Saturday April 08, 2017 @10:17AM (#14067018)
Considering that the commenter jut told you where in the world he was talking about, I don't think you need to be as generally worried and vague as you're being here.

I mean, depending on where you live in the world, a lot of infectious diseases can spread by either wounds on the hand or vectors invading through the palm of the hand.

GAHHHHH! All the children must wear hand-shoes all the time!! Otherwise they'll all die! Maybe we adults (alleged adults. I refuse to believe I am one.) should too.

/s

You're just being silly and worrisome.

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by Blahah on Saturday April 08, 2017 @12:48PM (#14067784)
The commenter actually didn't say where they lived, and didn't limit the question to any location. I live in Kenya and my one year old walks around a lot of the time without shoes, which is a calculated risk. I assure you I'm being neither silly nor worrisome - I just factually answered the parent's question about what the potential issues are with not wearing shoes.

edit: to be less vague:

(1) Tetanus spores are present in soil all over the world and can easily infect a cut on the foot - between 1 and 2 in 10 cases are fatal (https://www.cdc.gov/tetanus/index.html).

(2) Hookwork larvae are present in soil all over the USA (and many other places) and can infect through intact skin - not fatal but can have unpleasant complications (https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/hookworm/)

(3) bilharzia infects through skin contact with contaminated water which includes puddles and just wet soil - not in the USA but many other countries - and kills tens of millions every year (https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/schistosomiasis/index.html)

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by ianamartin on Saturday April 08, 2017 @10:08AM (#14066962)
Same thing. Born in Texas in the late 70s. I never wore shoes as a kid or teenager. I mean, I'd wear them to school and stuff, but when we were playing around outside there were no shoes.
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by 13of40 on Saturday April 08, 2017 @02:39AM (#14065667)
I don't know about you, but the only reason I need shoes in my day to day life is because I grew up wearing shoes. Left to their own account, my feet would be at least as durable against thorns and rocks as a pair of Amer-Aid flip flops.
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by andai on Saturday April 08, 2017 @04:03AM (#14065888)
Shoes are a prison for the mind.
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by amelius on Saturday April 08, 2017 @04:23AM (#14065939)
These shoes might solve that problem: [1]

[1] https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/b7/69/46/b769...

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by nommm-nommm on Saturday April 08, 2017 @10:57AM (#14067208)
Do they make a version for weirdos like me with a Morton's toe? (Longer second toe than big toe)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morton%27s_toe

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by bblough on Sunday April 09, 2017 @12:33PM (#14073056)
Wow, I have that too! Now I know what it's called.

For what it's worth, I have a pair of vibrams and they're very comfortable, even for weirdos like us. I imagine it's just a matter of sizing.

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by andai on Saturday April 08, 2017 @03:47PM (#14068632)
Ahh, ye olde hallicusbradymetatarsalgia!
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by andai on Saturday April 08, 2017 @03:49PM (#14068643)
https://xkcd.com/1065/

I've been thinking about buying these, along with a worn out pair of "normal" shoes.

Then I'll cut out the soles and put the top part over the weird comfy shoes.

Best of both worlds!

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by cryptarch on Saturday April 08, 2017 @04:40AM (#14065993)
I own a few pairs of Vibram Fivefingers, they're lovely. You feel so much more of the ground you're walking on, so many textures!

Death to all footcoffins!

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by jacquesm on Saturday April 08, 2017 @09:18AM (#14066755)
The exposed toe is easy to damage, that's why it makes sense to encase all of them in a single container.

They're not so much footcoffins as they are toe and sole protectors.

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by cryptarch on Monday April 10, 2017 @06:55AM (#14077399)
What do you mean by exposed? Unless you're doing intricate climbing the chances of catching a toe on something in VFs is nill.

All VFs have a bit of rubber padding on the front of the toe to prevent toe-stubbing.

I've noticed a significant improvement in the coordination/sensitivity of my feet, I stub my toe a lot less often in VFs than when I wear regular shoes. My calves have also become a lot stronger, and my balance has improved as well.

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by ianamartin on Saturday April 08, 2017 @10:20AM (#14067037)
I have a few pairs as well. I do recognize that they are weird-looking. But they feel so good to wear. Especially in winter. I love the way it feels to walk around in the snow in those things.

I don't wear them all the time, but it's fun when I do.

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by mahmud on Saturday April 08, 2017 @06:29AM (#14066272)
Every time I see those things, I can't hold back laughter.
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by cryptarch on Saturday April 08, 2017 @07:39AM (#14066463)
They're pretty funny-looking :)

I think the toed socks are definitely very weird-looking, especially when they come in white, looks like a some sort of fetish gear.

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by nmridul on Saturday April 08, 2017 @03:13AM (#14065760)
Walking barefoot is not a big deal. And many times there is religious / cultural aspect too [1]

[1]http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/andhra-pradesh/In-this...

[2]http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/0/21235888

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by apoorvkumar on Saturday April 08, 2017 @11:47PM (#14070319)
Because Indians are smart enough to realize that it's better to fund those slippers using an uber-successful space program than to tax people or asking the reserve to print more currency.
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by zerr on Saturday April 08, 2017 @06:46AM (#14066316)
EDIT: Let me rephrase (hence "slippers" in quotes) - when I see the photos of India, I see poverty, people starving, literally living in garbage, etc... That might not be 100% of India, but I suspect it relates to significant part of the population. So how this goes in tandem with the country being able to fund a space program and so on...
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by linuxkerneldev on Saturday April 08, 2017 @08:59AM (#14066682)
> when I see the photos of India, I see poverty, people starving, literally living in garbage

Lets take that sentence and s/India/Flint/. "When I see the photos of Flint, I see poverty, people starving, literally living in garbage". It isn't far off isn't it? So how would you feel if a person from China asked us, how are you able to fund NASA when you have your own citizens desperate in Flint? How are you able to fund NASA when you have growing illiteracy in many American cities? People believing the earth is flat. People killing each other in Chiraq. People asking us why we have the highest incarceration rate and effectively modern-slavery system in the world. Do you see how your question reflects more on us and our own culture?

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by zaroth on Saturday April 08, 2017 @09:29AM (#14066795)
Funding the space program is part of the aspirational work that a country does that brings about the cultural change and technological productivity boosts necessary to help solve the first order poverty problems.

Because poverty isn't a problem born out of "literally not enough money to feed the population" it's significantly more complex than that.

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by apoorvkumar on Saturday April 08, 2017 @11:50PM (#14070334)
That space program is a revenue making venture - so don't worry about India - we can travel to space just fine without burning a hole in our pockets. Can you ?
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by muthuraj57 on Saturday April 08, 2017 @04:10AM (#14065909)
What makes you think they need shoes?
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by vvybvbqi on Saturday April 08, 2017 @02:42AM (#14065679)
I don't know, but maybe because of the caste system ?
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by pavement on Saturday April 08, 2017 @01:13AM (#14065431)

  > I want to see her feet, specifically 
  > her toes. If she really hasn't ever 
  > worn shoes then her toes will show it.
http://www.drgangemi.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/barefoot...

http://www.drgangemi.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/barefoot...

Uh, I'm no podiatrist, but those images are not particularly well distinguished from shoe wearing peers.

I don't look at those images and immediately think "feet that have never worn shoes" in my mind.

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by sandworm101 on Saturday April 08, 2017 @01:30AM (#14065484)
Look at the bones. Look at how their toes line up with the longer bones in the foot. Then look at your own smallest toes. Look at how they bend inwards and are not aligned with the bones in the foot. That's what wearing shoes while a child does. It's one of a host of little tells that forever indicates the physical conditions in which a person is raised.
Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by sandGorgon on Friday April 07, 2017 @11:29PM (#14065132)
This is pretty much on national news right now and it's out of the hands of the local police.

From what we can tell, the news is pretty accurate.

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by spraak on Saturday April 08, 2017 @03:38AM (#14065813)
Thanks for the link! I'm enjoying unshoeing my body :D
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Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by sctb on Saturday April 08, 2017 @05:40PM (#14069196)
Please don't violate the guidelines by calling names like this. If you have a point to make, we need you to make it civilly and substantively.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:A girl was found living among monkeys in an Indian forest by snambi on Saturday April 08, 2017 @01:00AM (#14065389)
Its just a news story. May be its true. There is no need to get emotional.