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Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by ohstopitu on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @04:27PM (#13322203)
In my opinion, Medium has a problem - It's not really a product that is supposed to make a LOT of revenue (for it's size).

In all honesty, it's very easy to technically build & maintain Medium with as few as 5 engineers. Add a few more people (say 5 - 6 more) and you have a good business (not a crazy growth startup) that can generate revenue and most importantly be sustainable.

As for generating revenue: it's very easy to charge people a few $ / m for stuff I'd consider extra features (premium themes and custom domains).

It's sad those 50 people lost jobs (I feel for them - I had lost my previous job when a startup decided to downsize), but in all honesty - what do 150 do at Medium and more importantly, WTF did Medium do with ~123 Million [0]?

[0] - https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/medium#/entity

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by falloutx on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @04:45PM (#13322348)
Its really sad for those 50 employees who had to lose their jobs due to incompetence of Medium's executives and its business model.

Its due to a deeply embedded business philosophy where CEOs and other business people try to create bigger companies, and not necessarily better companies. Sometimes they are able to trigger a mushroom growth, but most of the times they fail. But due to survivor bias, they create a few more wannabe CEOs who again trey to create bigger and not better companies, and the cycle repeats.

Medium currently had a full fledged Sales, Support, HR and even a big ass operations dept. And 2 or 3 offices across United States. Their operations & other business depts were quite big in head count, even rivaling local oracle offices(which usually have about 1000+ employees). I can't necessarily say whether they had inefficiencies in their company structure, but they certainly over hired.

Even disheartening thing is that they might have already dried up most of their cash, and still don't know how to run a business. Executives are currently playing a dangerous game of "Let's see if we can raise more" and "We'll think of something".

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by SerLava on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @07:34PM (#13323624)
>Medium currently had a full fledged Sales, Support, HR and even a big ass operations dept. And 2 or 3 offices across United States. Their operations & other business depts were quite big in head count, even rivaling local oracle offices

Holy shit, sorry if I'm coming in to this discussion late and empty handed but isn't Medium basically a fucking blog?

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by untog on Thursday January 05, 2017 @12:07AM (#13324911)
It's a publishing platform, which sold itself to some smaller publications for use as their public facing site (like The Awl). It intended to make money through advertising. So sales and support is hardly out of the question. But at the size it grew to? No.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by LoSboccacc on Thursday January 05, 2017 @04:59AM (#13325983)
it's exactly that, an easier wordpress as a service with a cool, officially sounding domain name and one fixed theme better than competitors of the time but fading out of fashion fast.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by stevula on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @10:56PM (#13324592)
It's really a blogging platform. I can see why they would need a large sales and customer support department. Whether it was too big, I have no idea.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by ProAm on Thursday January 05, 2017 @12:40PM (#13329330)
It's way to big. This company could be run successfully with ~30-40 people.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by jmknoll on Thursday January 05, 2017 @02:05AM (#13325321)
"So, we are shifting our resources and attention to defining a new model for writers and creators to be rewarded, based on the value they’re creating for people. And toward building a transformational product for curious humans who want to get smarter about the world every day.

It is too soon to say exactly what this will look like. This strategy is more focused but also less proven."

In so many words, "We'll think of something."

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by type0 on Thursday January 05, 2017 @02:39AM (#13325443)
> In so many words, "We'll think of something."

Maybe they would try to get acquihired

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by ascorbic on Thursday January 05, 2017 @07:52AM (#13326711)
Companies that raised $123 million don't get acquihired.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by gph on Thursday January 05, 2017 @08:10AM (#13326798)
Why not? That's a genuine question, not trying to be a smartass. Would a company that raised that much money not be worth its value to be acquired?

Edit: Looks like Instagram had raised 50m before being acquihired. Definitely a much different situation than this one, but it's not outside the realm of possibility that a company which raised 100+ million would be acquihired.

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by demystified on Thursday January 05, 2017 @09:03AM (#13327128)
I would not consider Instagram being "acquihired".

See definition from wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acqui-hiring): "...the process of acquiring a company to recruit its employees, without necessarily showing an interest in its products and services—or their continued operation"

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by ascorbic on Thursday January 05, 2017 @10:22AM (#13327762)
Instagram was sold for $1 billion with just 13 employees. That's certainly not an acquihire.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by ascorbic on Thursday January 05, 2017 @10:21AM (#13327743)
Because acquihires are at much, much lower valuations than that. You'd be relying on the investors agreeing to basically write off their investment.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by bdcravens on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @06:26PM (#13323127)
> Its really sad for those 50 employees who had to lose their jobs due to incompetence of Medium's executives and its business model.

Isn't it worth considering that those 50 employees should have never been hired, but only were due to incompetence of Medium's executives and its business model?

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by brongondwana on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @09:11PM (#13324124)
There's opportunity costs for those employees for having taken that job rather than another option that may have been on the table at the time.

Or having taken on additional responsibilities (loan, started a family, etc) based on having the job.

Getting a job that shouldn't have existed and then losing it again isn't zero sum.

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by eropple on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @11:23PM (#13324722)
Agreed. In my experience, being out of a job six months after starting a new one is a net negative. I can spin a longer break between jobs a lot better than that.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by paulcole on Thursday January 05, 2017 @01:03AM (#13325096)
just leave it off your resume
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by eropple on Thursday January 05, 2017 @01:49AM (#13325271)
Right, but then you're getting into the areas where talking about, say, a 12 month gap (4 months looking, 8 months working, then canned) instead of perhaps a 5 or a 6 month gap. It can be done, but it looks awkward, and it really sucks.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by itsdrewmiller on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @08:08PM (#13323815)
Those aren't mutually exclusive - Medium overhired but it is sad for the people who didn't make that decision but lost their job because of it.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by nkozyra on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @08:08PM (#13323811)
Sure, but it seems excessive to blame them twice ;)
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by dohertyjf on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @11:22PM (#13324717)
> I can't necessarily say whether they had inefficiencies in their company structure, but they certainly over hired.

Yep, we are seeing this time and time again with startups in the Bay Area who went on a landgrab for talent a few years ago and now realize they can't support them as the VC money dried up. I actually wonder if Medium was trying to raise more and they were unable to, therefore they have to do this and are trying to spin it positively.

I respect Ev a lot. He revolutionized blogging and publishing on the web. And I want Medium to do well. And maybe I'm too cynical about the startup and SV world (I moved away from SF in October), but this smells of the same old same old to me.

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by username223 on Thursday January 05, 2017 @05:26AM (#13326073)
> I respect Ev a lot. He revolutionized blogging and publishing on the web.

Serious questions: why and how?

I both write a blog and read blogs. I have never had any desire to move my blog to Medium, and ask myself "is it really worth it?" before clicking on any Medium link.

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by peterarmstrong on Thursday January 05, 2017 @06:07AM (#13326235)
Blogger and Twitter.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by username223 on Thursday January 05, 2017 @10:20AM (#13327733)
Blogger was just another LiveJournal, BlogSpot, or WordPress (StudlyCaps IntEntional). Twitter (i.e. "public SMS") has very little to do with blogging.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by intoverflow2 on Thursday January 05, 2017 @11:06AM (#13328209)
>Serious questions: why and how?

Branding

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by shostack on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @06:40PM (#13323228)
Another concern is the growth and profit expectations that will come with more funding (beyond current expectations) and the lack of leverage they will have if they can raise more.

I'm not sure there are many companies such a scenario has worked out well for, but I'd love to dig into examples if people have any. And working out well can mean different things for investors vs employees vs customers vs free users vs readers. I would expect the interests to become less aligned the more investment they take on without being profitable (see Evernote's recent moves and resulting user backlash).

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by rco8786 on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @04:59PM (#13322470)
I always find it amusing when people say "I could run XYZ with a 10th of the engineers, easy!", as if they have any actual insight into the engineering backends that run these services.

I remember a couple years ago there was a guy claiming he could run Twitter himself on 4 really big servers.

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by nateberkopec on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @05:21PM (#13322659)
That's because there's a bunch of examples of companies that have deployed massive services with a dozen or so engineers. Craigslist, Snapchat, Wikipedia (until recently) to name a few.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by Tobu on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @07:50PM (#13323712)
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by alexandercrohde on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @05:31PM (#13322733)
Good point. I think it's easy to forget how much work engineers can make for ourselves (Uber has >700 microservices)...

Maybe 1 person can't make twitter by himself, but I think the necessary number is much closer to 1 than it is to 4,100

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by bdcravens on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @06:48PM (#13323288)
Recently listened to DHH's Software Engineering Radio interview, and his statement about teams of 3 developers bragging about their 4 microservices really stuck out to me.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by sanderjd on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @07:58PM (#13323750)
We seem to be in an era of microservice dissing. It reminds me a lot of the recent era of monoservice dissing. Just an observation.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by thesimpsons1022 on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @08:48PM (#13324011)
everything in the world is susceptible to trends. especially in the tech world we tend to embrace concepts and take them too far. we then realize we took it too far and adjust too far to the other side like a pendulum. As usual, somewhere in the middle is best.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by thrillgore on Thursday January 05, 2017 @04:05PM (#13331386)
It just seems easier now to reinvent the wheel 500 times as opposed to fixing it the first time. It may just be agile thinking.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by Arcaire on Thursday January 05, 2017 @03:17AM (#13325600)
Do you happen to have a link to that? I'm interested to hear it.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by jdex on Thursday January 05, 2017 @03:51AM (#13325745)
Haven't listened to it yet, but it seems like this is the mentioned episode http://www.se-radio.net/2016/06/se-radio-episode-261-david-h...
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by tomc1985 on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @07:44PM (#13323671)

  >Good point. I think it's easy to forget how much work engineers can make for ourselves (Uber has >700 microservices)...
This! So much of modern development looks like a jobs program. Then one steps back and looks at SV development in general, and realizes that 95% of their engineering staff is redundant.

Worse, are these asshole companies crowding out the H-1B system with all these extra positions?

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by Doctor_Fegg on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @07:13PM (#13323451)
OpenStreetMap: no paid engineers, half a dozen volunteers, unmetered (though not unlimited) public API, one of only four global geodata providers.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by FLGMwt on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @08:57PM (#13324056)
No disservice intended to the volunteer engineers and project members, but don't forget about the thousands of geographic data volunteers as well. : )
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by flurdy on Thursday January 05, 2017 @08:06AM (#13326776)
Kudos to Craigslist, Whatsapp, Instagram etc that managed to keep staff size low. At least until they were acquired...

Only a very strong non changing management that say no to nearly all feature changes can make that possible.

99% of companies and projects is not that. New features, new management, new customers, new priorities, leads to exponential complexity of services and staff numbers. And over-head staff such as sales, support, legal, hr, localisation, etc.

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by rco8786 on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @05:31PM (#13322731)
Craigslist hasn't changed their UX since launch, and Snapchat is rumored to have over 1,000 employees?

There really are no examples of something at Medium's scale being built and maintained by 5 engineers.

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by melvinmt on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @05:41PM (#13322802)
Instagram had around ~50 million users and 13 employees when it was acquired by Facebook.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by sulam on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @06:41PM (#13323243)
Probably not the best example since the rumor was they were all constantly paged. But yeah, some sites don't require much engineering horsepower.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by stevens32 on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @08:06PM (#13323803)
What do you mean by constantly paged?
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by mynegation on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @08:25PM (#13323896)
Got a "pager" message about problems requiring immediate attention. These days it's probably iMessage or Slack or WhatsApp, not the actual pager.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by was_boring on Thursday January 05, 2017 @08:11AM (#13326802)
pagerduty.com
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by carlivar on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @06:48PM (#13323286)
> Craigslist hasn't changed their UX since launch

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by pcwalton on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @07:33PM (#13323614)
Yes, I suspect that it is a bad thing. People who like modern UIs greatly outnumber people who like ones from the '90s.

The most straightforward explanation as to why Craigslist remains king is simple: network effects.

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by alexandercrohde on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @08:59PM (#13324068)
Mind you that you're writing that point on news.ycombinator.com (another '90s-esque site).

Maybe people prefer a "newer" web interface when it doesn't have ads, banners, popups, auto-playing-content, clutter (see yahoo), oversized images, 25 tracking scripts loading, but the lesson seems to be that too simple trumps too complex. An example that gets it exactly right IMHO is gmail.

The OTHER problem with having a nice UI is then people start to want to redesign every year, buy new logos, constantly adapt new design and FE trends (make it flat! make it angular! make it ES6! make it react! now pre-render on the server!).

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by pkamb on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @10:12PM (#13324394)
The "how it looks" of Craigslist is fine, just like HN. The "how it works" is abysmal.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by neilcrj on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @08:53PM (#13324035)
> People who like modern UIs

Even more people like stable UIs.

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by Noseshine on Thursday January 05, 2017 @03:31AM (#13325657)

  People who like modern UIs greatly outnumber
  people who like ones from the '90s.
Maybe initially when the fancy graphics grab their attention. But as they start to work their brains notice the "fancy" less and less and usability takes over:

Just like in games like shooters or Starcraft the pros actually turn down graphics settings - they don't notice the graphics any more so they don't are!

Same as why after a month you stop noticing the wonderful paintings you carefully selected for your home's walls. I haven't looked at mine in years. That#s why we get reddit /r/funny posts where people replace the family portraits in their parents house and then make a reddit post with the funny replacement picture "2 weeks and nobody has noticed anything yet".

Brains are made to tune out anything

a) not new

b) not used

So you end up with Google and reddit as major websites.

I'm not quite sure where that leaves websites like USAToday, but I highly suspect people learn to navigate it despite the graphics, and the design only serves to attract people initially. I on't think it helps retain users once they've been there for a while, except that keeping it stable helps keeping customers.

I know that Germany's top 1 or 2 news website www.spiegel.de (the other one competing for the top spot is a tabloid, bild.de) decided to stick to a much more text-based linear design even after a recent major redesign.

So while a look at actually successful websites doesn't tell us that simple designs always win your claim certainly isn't supported by the facts. Probably not as-is, and when it applies a lot of terms and conditions apply: What kind of people does a site attract? What kind of content do they serve? How long do people stay, how much do they interact with and use the site? Is it mostly "look at" content, or are there many interactions (reddit: lots of "using", USAtoday: mostly "looking")? Etc. I would make the claim the more people actually use a site (interact with the contents - clicking, navigating, writing, searching in the broadest sense, not just the "Search" function, for example trying to quickly find the top comments on a page) the less important the "fanciness"/"modernity" factor. As you use an interface your brain stops noticing how it looks and concentrates on how it feels (for example when it's always hard to hit that tiny "expand" icon on a comment thread right next to a complete different icon separated by only two pixels, how the icons look like will be lost).

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by mulmen on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @09:04PM (#13324091)
I can't think of a single modern UI that I like.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by Angostura on Thursday January 05, 2017 @04:46AM (#13325941)
Presumably you're browsing HN using Lynx.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by Frondo on Thursday January 05, 2017 @02:08AM (#13325334)
For some things, it is a bad thing.

Apartment searching on Craigslist was so bad for so long, services like Padmapper sprang up to supplement it. Now Craigslist has a similar mapping feature to Padmapper, but still far clunkier.

Their forums were never very good, and have largely atrophied.

Sometimes change is good.

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by anewhnaccount on Thursday January 05, 2017 @01:53AM (#13325289)
How about Reddit? That's a site that's undergone a number of UI changes and I'm pretty sure even now still has <30 engineers. It had around 6 in 2012 I believe.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by jrnichols on Thursday January 05, 2017 @04:24PM (#13331544)
Doesn't Imgur still only have about 15 employees too?
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by kuschku on Thursday January 05, 2017 @05:11AM (#13326023)
> There really are no examples of something at Medium's scale being built and maintained by 5 engineers.

There’s WhatsApp. A billion users, and 35 employees, running on less than 100 off-the-shelf servers.

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by bluedino on Thursday January 05, 2017 @08:34AM (#13326963)
>> Craigslist hasn't changed their UX since launch,

It looks similar but to say it hasn't changed is silly

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by Sir_Cmpwn on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @06:52PM (#13323313)
I built a service with a buddy of mine (so 2 engineers total) that achieved a scale comparable to Medium circa-2014/2015 (given baseless guesses about Medium's scale), with a similar featureset (perhaps more sophisticated, apples to oranges somewhat). It's definitely possible to achieve scale on a small team.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by sanderjd on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @08:52PM (#13324028)
But... As you say, your guesses about their scale are baseless...
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by bluedino on Thursday January 05, 2017 @08:38AM (#13326987)
What's interesting is how fast they add engineers. Many startups will start out with 1-2 people, then slowly add people as they grow. So the team becomes 5, 8 people. You always read about this in detail when they talk about scaling at a conference. But then they have 300 engineers. That is the growth period I want to hear about.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by quincyla on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @08:03PM (#13323788)
For what it's worth, FreeCodeCamp.com has 1/3 the page views that Medium has, with only 3 full time staff. https://www.similarweb.com/website/freecodecamp.com?competit...

I love Medium and I hope it succeeds. It sounds like their headcount was substantially higher than it needed to be and that this layoff was the right move.

I wish Ev had mentioned all the additional facts that are in this article by one of Medium's investors: https://500ish.com/long-medium-b9ddfe2c3a0a#.ch2benant

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by walterbell on Thursday January 05, 2017 @04:59AM (#13325984)
So what's the alternative to ads? Are they going to try subscriptions or micro payments (like Brave's browser)?
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by thrillgore on Thursday January 05, 2017 @04:11PM (#13331435)
Really the only other option besides those two would be content advertising (Sponsored Articles)... ick
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by dilemma on Thursday January 05, 2017 @07:25PM (#13332811)
The alternative is syndicating content to other publishers like AP does.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by idlewords on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @05:30PM (#13322726)
A lot of people on here are familiar with sites that run at scale with just a handful of engineers, and are also familiar with the fantastic potential for bloat to creep in to organizations if you don't work to control it.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by jimbokun on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @05:33PM (#13322745)
I bet the WhatsApp team could do it.

Not the number of servers, necessarily, but running a big site with a small number of engineers.

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by ohsnapman on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @06:31PM (#13323174)
Ah, yes, @dpp, creator of the Scala web framework Lift:

https://blog.linkedin.com/2009/06/15/video-linkedin-scala-te...

(Video is offline)

To which Twitter's Nick Kallen replied on stage, incredulously, "... I don't think that's correct."

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by na85 on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @07:52PM (#13323720)
Ah yes, the old "u don't even kno wat its liek!1"
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by enknamel on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @07:33PM (#13323612)
> I remember a couple years ago there was a guy claiming he could run Twitter himself on 4 really big servers.

I worked with said person and I feel like he would get along very well with Arthur Whitney.

It's definitely easy to make guesses on how an org could be streamlined from the outside. Though Medium needed to grow quickly and that takes having a lot of people to create features, sell, etc. They didn't grow and needed to scale back and change their strategy. I've seen quite a few startups go through continuous hiring booms then layoffs over and over again.

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by Justsignedup on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @07:19PM (#13323508)
I think this hits the nail on the head with startups. Overinflated growth and expectations. If you make a platform and expect limitless growth then a lot of doors close. If medium was good enough with 15 employees, why make a good thing bad? Why is 15 people having a highly profitable sustained business seen as a bad thing today? If that is the limit, then keep that company slowly growing to 30 people over time if it becomes necessary.

But then again if you race to investor money and immediately have to make $1 billion to appease investors, it suddenly makes sense.

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by the_duke on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @04:44PM (#13322337)
Well, 6 years in business, offices in NY, DC and SF (all expensive locations), 3 company acquisitions, salaries for 100+ employees. I can see them getting to 120 million easily.

Now why you need 150 people to build a pretty straight forward blog platform is a very valid question...

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by hk__2 on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @05:14PM (#13322605)
> Now why you need 150 people to build a pretty straight forward blog platform is a very valid question

Because it’s not straightforward, and it’ not that many people? Facebook has 100x that number. Twitter has 25x. Airbnb hired almost 10x that number in 2015 alone. Stripe has almost 4x that number.

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by nickpsecurity on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @05:50PM (#13322872)
What these unrelated services did doesn't refute the point that a small team can put together a blogging service. Most components you need even already exist as pre-packaged FOSS. On top of it, one company on your list had a complex product that was built by a hand-full of college students in its early days. The Instagram company they bought also had just 13 employees.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by idlewords on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @08:52PM (#13324027)
Twitter is another horribly overstaffed example. The Ev Williams signature touch.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by AznHisoka on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @10:26PM (#13324454)
for the first two, they are dealing with tons of data on people's interests, machine learning, spam algorithms, search infrastructure, not just the pageviews.

the only hard technical part of Medium is perhaps their content recommendations, but thats it. dealing with a ton of pageviews is hard, yes but nowhere near the complexity of dealing with what others are doing. you can solve that problem with more machines and money if need be. hard problems (ie google search) can only be solved with PHDs and thinking.

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by sfilargi on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @08:45PM (#13323994)
> Because it’s not straightforward, and it’ not that many people? Facebook has 100x that number. Twitter has 25x. Airbnb hired almost 10x that number in 2015 alone. Stripe has almost 4x that number.

While true, this doesn't really answer the GP's question, does it?

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by jyriand on Thursday January 05, 2017 @07:48AM (#13326681)
I think you are assuming that all of those 150 people are engineers. I guess most of them are not. You can build this blog platform with 10-15 engineers, but you also need people who will manage and sell.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by Dr0Dre on Thursday January 05, 2017 @09:05AM (#13327146)
Genuine question: manage and sell what?. Medium doesn't serve customer with products, it's ads only and I don't think that would require massive workforce to buy/sell them.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by bluedino on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @04:46PM (#13322352)
>> build & maintain Medium with as few as 5 engineers. Add a few more people (say 5 - 6 more) and you have a good business

I'm guessing they have a lot more than 5 reviewers, writers, editors...

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by andygates on Thursday January 05, 2017 @10:29AM (#13327843)
What is the editorial situation? I've not been paying close attention, but they seem to have gone from curated long-form content to Yet Another Blogging Site.
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by intoverflow2 on Thursday January 05, 2017 @11:06AM (#13328202)
> what do 150 do at Medium and more importantly, WTF did Medium do with ~123 Million [0]?

Interesting people freaking out about this when if you point out the bloat at Twitter (which dwarfs Medium many times over and goes years without shipping anything user facing) HN posters will jump to defend it just because they have a few dev centric open source projects that are widely used.

Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by yuhong on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @08:17PM (#13323860)
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by flylib on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @08:12PM (#13323832)
Medium still has years of runway...
Re:Renewing Medium’s focus by scott_karana on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @09:14PM (#13324140)
Not if the same people who hired 50+ extra engineers are still steering the ship the same way...