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Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by pdkl95 on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:11AM (#12469028)
> Law-abiding citizens rarely have need for $100 bills

That's a point of view of someone who has never lived near the poverty line or other economically problematic situations. If you deal in cash without a bank account, $100 bills, while not particularly common, are not rare either. Accusing these people of being lawbreakers simply because they have crappy jobs, are bankrupt, pay their rent in cash, etc is highly offensive (and classist).

> That suggests the bills are circulating mainly in the underground economy.

So what? Underground does not mean illegal.

> If the biggest bill were worth $10, rather than $100, delivering someone a million bucks under the table would require a 220-pound chest rather than a 22-pound briefcase.

No, it would require something like a check or money order, creative accounting, and possibly an offshore bank account or two. Bribery, laundering, and other financial crimes are not generally done with cash; they happen on the books, often through legal means. Did this "Harvard economist" miss the SCOTUS rulings that de facto legalized bribery?

> Forcing people to use smaller bills, Rogoff argues, might make crime more conspicuous and less convenient.

No, it merely moves many types of petty crime into barter and alternative economies. The higher-value crimes (usually) don't use cash.

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by ci5er on Saturday September 10, 2016 @01:12PM (#12470064)
I think it's also personal preference/habit. With a credit card, at the end of the week, I always have to check and see what I've done to myself. If I start the week with $500 in $100 bills (the particular amount doesn't matter) in my pocket, and I'm out before the end of the week, it's a sign that I need to take it easy for a day or three. I'm sure I could adjust to having to keep closer track in my head (or on my smart phone), but this is simple and it works for me.

I'm guessing the guy has a bank account, regular direct-deposit income, good credit, shops in places where they take credit cards, and has some financial literacy that helps him keep that all straight. Anyone missing any of these would prefer to have the cash option available to them at least some of the time. (All of which is in agreement with your 'classist' claim against the author.)

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by tomrod on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:29AM (#12469083)
> No, it would require something like a check or money order, creative accounting, and possibly an offshore bank account or two. Bribery, laundering, and other financial crimes are not generally done with cash; they happen on the books, often through legal means.

Do you have a source for this? In the US, transactions over a certain limit have a paper trail; many transactions adding up to over that limit raise tons of red flags.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_your_customer

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by pdkl95 on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:58AM (#12469205)
Red flags only happen if the transaction was illegal. We legalized all kinds of creative accounting when we deregulated entire industries over the last several decades. Reporting requirement haven't stopped offshore accounts and other havens, tricks, and tax avoidance schemes.

The point is that you don't need an anonymous transaction when you payment or bribe is (technically) legal.

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by tomrod on Sunday September 11, 2016 @09:50AM (#12473324)
I think we're going to disagree here. Red flags happen on individually legal transactions as indications that could indicate larger patterns of illegal behavior.

Deregulation of industries (say, electricity [0]) did not happen just to introduce creative or legal accounting fraud. Do you have any sources for your claims, or just hearsay/personal thoughts?

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deregulation_of_the_Texas_el...

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by pdkl95 on Sunday September 11, 2016 @01:37PM (#12474516)
You're still thinking about the wrong kind of transaction. Try "Super PAC" and other forms of paying for access/influence, or the popular practice of giving someone a $250,000 speaking fee or well-paying job they don't have to attend. These are obviously bribes, which would have been a scandal 50+ years ago, but we legalized them.

I'll assume you're already familiar with the legal, quasi-legal, and illegal ways money is moved into offshore accounts. The details change over time as regulators catch up, and I believe there has been some progress in recent years at stopping some of these practices.

> just to introduce

Of course not. There were many (profitable) reasons deregulation happened.

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by tptacek on Saturday September 10, 2016 @12:33PM (#12469902)
It's the flourishes like scare-quoting "Harvard economist" --- Rogoff is not only an economist at Harvard, but a professor of economics at Harvard --- that turn what could have been a solid rebuttal into an ideological screech.

If you want a good critique of Rogoff (something that is easy to generate), Google [brad delong ken rogoff].

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by pdkl95 on Sunday September 11, 2016 @09:32AM (#12473271)
> scare-quoting

I believe you're missinterpreting my attempt to quote the title. I probably could have written that part better, maybe?

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by rayiner on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:28AM (#12469081)
> Did this "Harvard economist" miss the SCOTUS rulings that de facto legalized bribery?

Which one was that?

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by pdkl95 on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:49AM (#12469166)
McCutcheon v. Federal Election Commission

http://www.scotusblog.com/2014/04/divided-court-strikes-down...

That's one obvious example that specifically allows bribery as long as it is not directly a quid pro quo exchange. Buying access and influence, on the other hand, was “a central feature of democracy—that constituents support candidates who share their beliefs and interests, and candidates who are elected can be expected to be responsive to those concerns.”

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by rayiner on Saturday September 10, 2016 @10:16AM (#12469304)
"Buying access and influence" doesn't appear in the majority opinion at all, and certainly not juxtaposed with the passage you quoted. The text preceding what you quote is:

> In a series of cases over the past 40 years, we have spelled out how to draw the constitutional line between the permissible goal of avoiding corruption in the political process and the impermissible desire simply to limit political speech. We have said that government regulation may not target the general gratitude a candidate may feel toward those who support him or his allies, or the political access such support may afford. “Ingratiation and access . . . are not corruption.” Citizens United v. Federal Election Comm’n, 558 U. S. 310, 360 (2010). They embody a central feature of democracy—that constituents support candidates who share their beliefs and interests, and candidates who are elected can be expected to be responsive to those concerns.

I.e. it's not corruption if LGBT rights advocates donate heavily to get Hilary Clinton elected, and it is not corruption if she is responsive to their concerns once in office. Nor does it become corruption just because you replace a viewpoint you approve of with a viewpoint you do not approve of (i.e. when you substitute "farmers" for "LGBT rights advocates").

The case itself is also much narrower than you imply. McCutcheon v. FCC involved a challenge to the aggregate contribution limit. I.e. the law that said you couldn't contribute to a 10th candidate because you hit the aggregate limit, even if you stayed under the individual contribution limit (which is currently $2,700).

The Court started with the premise that Congress could not Constitutionally preclude people from trying to influence elections, or reduce the ability of one group to influence elections in order to increase the relative influence of other groups. It acknowledged that Congress can prevent bribery, or the appearance of bribery, but held that the aggregate limit did not achieve that purpose. If giving $2,700 to 9 candidates does not create the risk of corruption, the court reasoned, how does giving $2,700 to a tenth candidate do so?

What McCutcheon did not do is overturn the individual limit. Under the Court's reasoning, the result may well have been very different if the petitioner tried to contribute $10,000,000 to the same candidate.

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by pmorici on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:11AM (#12469029)
For someone who is supposed to be intelligent this proposal sounds dangerously inept. They start from the premise that only bad people use $100 bills w/o providing any evidence the claim is true. Incredibly they then use that to support their thesis that both $20, and $50 bills should be phased out as well.

The assumption that a cashless society would give a central bank more control by making negative interest rates viable is also totally nuts. People would just end up buying things like precious metals, low inflation crypto currencies or anything else that emerged as a defacto store of value. In Baltimore for example there is a strong underground market for name brand laundry detergent and as a result you can barter a jug of it for drugs.

http://nymag.com/news/features/tide-detergent-drugs-2013-1/

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by ismail on Saturday September 10, 2016 @08:55AM (#12468973)
I remember back in the late 90's listened to a talk which I dismissed as conspiracy. The key points were

1. Moving people away from cash to credit so easier monitoring of society and transactions

2. Moving communications to the "information super highway" with constant listening in

Our grand kids will live in a vastly different society. I fear we may be heading to a reality covered in so many dystopian works of fiction.

The chilling effects of the constant surveillance we currently have.

This was previously posted on HN:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-07/why-you-should-be-p...

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by PavlovsCat on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:30AM (#12469085)
Since the goal is total power, our grand kids will live in no society at all. They will be automatons, live in pain/in fear/in despair/not at all, or be Gestapo officers. But they'll be too regressed to even be able to hate their ancestors for their cowardice and hybris, so that's good.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by hal9000xp on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:00AM (#12468985)
If a government keeps monopoly on money creation and all banking system is tightly regulated by the government but at the same time there is no cash in the economy, then government have ultimate power on everybody (since they can't burn cash in your pocket but they can freeze all your bank accounts anytime) and therefore your freedom at mercy of government bureaucrats.

Hard cash (and now also cryptocurrencies) is only little freedom you (still) have.

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by binarray2000 on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:36AM (#12469115)
Is that the same Kenneth Rogoff who co-authored a study about "Growth in a Time of Debt" which turned out to be full of faked data? And, curiously, EU/ECB/MMF (the infamous "Troika") and, most prominently, Germany based their "austerity" measures towards South European countries on that very study - which practically and conveniently provided the alibi for their crimes.

"Curiously" only the first sight: This guy is a member of the "Group of Thirty", a group "founded in 1978 by Geoffrey Bell at the initiative of the Rockefeller Foundation" and supported (http://group30.org/about/supporters) by the very profiteers of austerity.

And now he writes about "The Curse of Cash".

Should we believe him this time as well? Do we really know, who's interests he's serving?

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by mafribe on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:38AM (#12469131)

   their crimes.
Which crimes have you got in mind? The crime of being outvoted on the ECB board and having to bail out everybody?
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by jmnicolas on Saturday September 10, 2016 @10:01AM (#12469230)
I guess you're not Greek then or you would know what crimes. I'm not Greek either but I was shocked at what they did to this country.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by SomeStupidPoint on Saturday September 10, 2016 @08:58AM (#12468979)
The list of reasons he thinks it's a good idea reads like a list of reasons I think it's a bad idea. Strange how differently people think we should organize society, though I'm not surprised that someone so involved with the system believes that the system should be given considerably more power.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by fixxer on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:03AM (#12468996)
I've met a lot of academics that think like this. I find them terrifying in their inability to recognize adverse feedback loops. I'll keep my paper, thank you.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by adevine on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:09AM (#12469021)
Reminds me of the Euro. Was blessed as such a grand simplifying project by academics and technocrats in the late 90s, and critics were often dismissed conspiracy theorists.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by digi_owl on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:19AM (#12469047)
Various people still love the Euro. Mostly though it is those that can pack up their laptop and credit card and work from anywhere with a internet connection. Oh and the businesses trading across EU's internal borders.

The crazy part is how those nations with the biggest problems right now are those that followed the Euro requirements most closely. While the biggest offender is the one swinging the punishment stick...

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by digi_owl on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:15AM (#12469039)
Economists in particular seems to have a willful blindness to feedback loops.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by pdkl95 on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:20AM (#12469049)
"Understanding economics well impedes an understanding the economy." -- Yanis Varoufakis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5AUAIzciLE#t=1355

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by Noseshine on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:33AM (#12469100)
Well-known economist (public speaker and author) Ha-Joon Chang [0] says something very similar, here is the "RSA animate" short version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdbbcO35arw

My version: The deeper you go with your models the more you lose sight of the big picture, until you end up with crazy sophisticated mathematical models - that don't model reality (meaning not even relevant reality, apart from small well-defined sub-problems).

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ha-Joon_Chang

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by digi_owl on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:38AM (#12469129)
Interesting, i didn't know there was still new RSA animates made.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by digi_owl on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:21AM (#12469059)
I just wish he would wise up regarding EU...
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by HarryHirsch on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:04AM (#12468997)
On the other hand, the Byzantine Empire as all cash, but the fiscus managed to keep tax evasion at reasonable levels by taxing items where they cannot be hid. The main points of taxation was real estate at village level and wholesellers at merchant fairs.

Getting rid of cash would prevent tax evasion, but only for those that cannot afford tax shelters like Panama or the Double Irish with Dutch Sandwich with profit moved to the Cayman Islands.

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by Senji on Monday September 12, 2016 @01:25PM (#12481688)
Next step: destroy tax shelters like Panama either through embargoes or with military action.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by dade_ on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:21AM (#12469056)
This sounds great if you are VISA or MasterCard charging a fee for every transaction. The problem with cash is that it is too hard to get 100 and 50 dollar bills. This man clearly doesn't get out. Going for dinner for 80 dollars means carrying 5 $20 bills which is a serious PITA. Groceries, fuel, lightning ear buds, all the same.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by jmnicolas on Saturday September 10, 2016 @10:04AM (#12469251)
What's wrong with carrying 5 bills ? I regularly do.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by adamnemecek on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:09AM (#12469022)
> Law-abiding citizens rarely have need for $100 bills,

Law-abiding citizens rarely have need for Kenneth Rogoff.

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by madeofpalk on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:28AM (#12469080)
> Law-abiding citizens rarely have need for $100 bills

What a bizarre thing to say. While I don't use them frequently, whenever I sell my stuff off, usually I'll receive $100 bills.

People generally don't carry $500+ in cash, so when they go to the bank to withdraw, it'll come in $100 notes.

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by mcguire on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:34AM (#12469102)
The day before yesterday, an older gentleman in front of me at Tractor Supply paid with a hundred. As far as I know, baling twine is perfectly legal.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by Sir_Cmpwn on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:48AM (#12469161)
>interest rates into negative territory. That's the strange world where you pay to keep money in the bank and get paid to borrow it.

Wow, fuck that. I've already reduced my credit card usage to near zero for privacy-related reasons, but I still use a bank to store my funds. I'll definitely be among those switching exclusively to cash if this sort of thing comes to pass.

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by 4ad on Saturday September 10, 2016 @10:30AM (#12469388)
Serious question: where do you store your cash?

I am privacy conscious myself, and I am evaluating a cash-only life, but where do you keep all the cash? Still at the bank?

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by Sir_Cmpwn on Saturday September 10, 2016 @10:37AM (#12469426)
I have $XXXX in my safe and $XX-XXX in my wallet most of the time. I periodically top up at an ATM, gas stations near me have 0-fee ATMs.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by skylan_q on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:21AM (#12469058)
Kenneth Rogoff has an interesting résumé: international grandmaster of chess

So is Gary Kasparov, who doesn't even write any of his propaganda in Russian. So was Bobby Fischer, vicious anti-semite.

This shows that he's great at chess. It doesn't show much else.

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by mulle_nat on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:32AM (#12469096)
Or maybe it shows they are right, and you just don't get it, because your no good at chess. :)
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by venomsnake on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:02AM (#12468994)
It ia happening in UK already. 50 GBP note is all but outlawed. You cannot get it from ATM, some note machines do not accept it, if you need bigger quantities of it it - you must fill paperwork weighting more than the notes themselves.

I love the 500 eur note, and think we should move to a 1000 soon.

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by 4ad on Saturday September 10, 2016 @10:35AM (#12469417)
> I love the 500 eur note, and think we should move to a 1000 soon.

The 500 EUR note is being phased out: http://www.wsj.com/articles/500-euro-banknote-being-phased-o...

Personally, I have never seen one. I only saw a 200 EUR note once, the ATM don't give then, which is a pity.

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by tacostakohashi on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:21AM (#12469060)
It's pretty similar in the US with $100 notes, actually - they're really not easy to come by or use for legitimate everyday purposes.

ATMs don't issue them, and many shops either won't take them at all, or will take them only after quite a bit of fussing around with their counterfeit detector pen, inspecting them under UV, etc.

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by monkeyprojects on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:23AM (#12469066)
The UK has always been unique like that. A lot of it has to do with there only really being 3-5 large banks so checks were always quickly verified and cashed making avoiding large sums of cash easy.

And once people get out of the habit of carrying large quantities of cash around they rarely go back to it...

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by DanielBMarkham on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:09AM (#12469016)
We need to go the other way -- introduce larger-denomination bills. Assuming there was a good reason to make the highest bill $100 in 1969, calculating for inflation would allow us to have $500 bills. I'd argue for bringing back the $1000 -- and then indexing it to inflation from here on out.

With negative interest rates on their way in, people and organizations are going to start stockpiling big piles of cash. The least we can do is try to make it more cost-efficient.

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by wslh on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:30AM (#12469087)
Suppressing cash means much less privacy and more state control. Full stop.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by tomrod on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:27AM (#12469076)
Take cash away, people will just use something else for currency. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_money#Aspects
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by kozak on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:00AM (#12468988)
In some countries (like where I live) it's hard to come across US Dollar bills other than 100.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by siberianbear on Sunday September 11, 2016 @04:00AM (#12472447)
I am an American living in Russia. $100 bills are the only American currency I ever see here.

Unlike in the USA, where $100 bills are very rare and sometimes a hassle to actually use because some shops won't accept them or treat them suspiciously.

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by umanwizard on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:16AM (#12469041)
What country is that?

It matches my experience in Lebanon, but I was only there briefly as a tourist.

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by kozak on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:26AM (#12469074)
I'm in Ukraine, but I guess it applies to any country without a strong own currency.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by norea-armozel on Saturday September 10, 2016 @01:50PM (#12470223)
Well the only reason why cash exists at all today is because banking is a mess. Especially if you're poor. So banning cash isn't going to help the poor at all as others have noted. Wake me up when the same Harvard economists get off their butts and make a standard that will make banking for the poor as easy as it is for the rich. Until then, I'm all for cash.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by Kiro on Saturday September 10, 2016 @08:59AM (#12468981)
I love living in a country where cash has already been killed. Haven't seen a bill in many years.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by sneak on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:14AM (#12469037)
Spoken like someone who has never had their accounts extrajudicially frozen.

How do you pay your lawyer when the state or bank decides to steal from you?

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by ddorian43 on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:20AM (#12469050)
How much do you keep in cash? Enough to pay your lawyer ?
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by sneak on Saturday September 10, 2016 @07:10PM (#12471304)
I have plenty of assets which I can sell for cash in a pinch - should cash actually still exist.

When everything is a bank transfer, your very right to transact is at the mercy of the government.

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by ddorian43 on Sunday September 11, 2016 @03:35AM (#12472396)
Agree that makes more sense.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by ci5er on Saturday September 10, 2016 @01:19PM (#12470094)
> How do you pay your lawyer when the state or bank decides to steal from you?

In my (limited?) experience, unless the lawyer costs <$5000, you have good friends, or the lawyer likes you an awful lot, you kind of still need to tap your (now frozen) bank account for this use-case.

I do not recommend being in this situation.

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by k__ on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:00AM (#12468987)
Where is that?
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by lumberjack on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:17AM (#12469043)
I'd guess somewhere in North Western Europe. I live in the Netherlands and here cash is rarely used. All merchants of all kinds, including the lowliest street vendors, accept debit cards with is the main form of payment medium. For buying off classifieds I usually just send the money via bank transfer.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by toomuchtodo on Sunday September 11, 2016 @02:28AM (#12472258)
What if I want to pay for something that is legal, but I don't want a record to exist for? Prostitution is legal in the Netherlands, no?
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by dexterdog on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:28AM (#12469079)
You could say it's bliss, right?
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by thr0waway1239 on Saturday September 10, 2016 @08:56AM (#12468975)
Assuming this article is serious, exactly how do they plan to phase out the higher denomination bills? Is it actually feasible?

"Rogoff says he doesn't want to get rid of cash all at once. First, he would phase out 100s, then 50s, then 20s, leaving smaller bills in circulation for the foreseeable future. "I want to have a less-cash society, not a cashless society," he said."

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by zalepa on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:07AM (#12469009)
Phasing out bills is definitely feasible. Bills usually pass through a bank fairly often, at which point they can be removed from circulation. In general banknotes have their design changed every 10-20 years, and very old banknotes are no longer legal tender (though they can sometimes be exchanged at the central bank). A regular bank won't accept a deprecated banknote.

The ECB is currently phasing out 500s, first by removing those it can get its hands on from circulation, and after a few years by declaring the rest no longer legal tender.

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by DashRattlesnake on Saturday September 10, 2016 @10:49AM (#12469480)
> In general banknotes have their design changed every 10-20 years, and very old banknotes are no longer legal tender

IIRC, the US has never declared any version of its old currency not-legal-tender, and no-one would have any problem spending any US banknote that in any way resembles the current ones in size or shape.

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by nommm-nommm on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:14AM (#12469035)
I've never had problems spending very old banknotes in the US.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by monkeyprojects on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:24AM (#12469068)
I don't believe US banknotes change design that frequently. In europe bank notes change design every 5-10 years and quickly stop being legal tender a 3-5 years afterwards...
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by nommm-nommm on Saturday September 10, 2016 @08:45PM (#12471560)
We had a major redesign in about... 2001ish. You still see the old notes circling around sometimes and they are still legal tender. The $100 bill was redesigned about two years ago. We have new paper notes coming out soon... https://modernmoney.treasury.gov.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by umanwizard on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:14AM (#12469036)
Bills have a pretty short lifetime. Banks can readily exchange them with the government (presumably, for credit in their account with the Fed) and vice versa. The government then destroys then old or mutilated ones. I imagine if the government simply stopped printing physical 100s, the number in circulation would dwindle pretty fast.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by Turing_Machine on Saturday September 10, 2016 @10:46AM (#12469463)
Hundreds last a lot longer than ones, though.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/how-long-is-the-life-spa...

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by DashRattlesnake on Saturday September 10, 2016 @10:46AM (#12469465)
> Bills have a pretty short lifetime.

It depends on the denomination. I think $1s have a lifetimes of ~18 months, but it goes up from there. I would imagine $100s have useful lifetimes of at least a decade if not more.

Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by venomsnake on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:04AM (#12469001)
Stop printing them. And remove them from circulation when they enter the financial system. It is easy.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by umanwizard on Saturday September 10, 2016 @08:57AM (#12468978)
I have heard that the anti-corruption reasoning is why China's biggest note is 100 CNY (worth less than 20 USD)
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by dexterdog on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:32AM (#12469094)
That's the reason they give. The real reason is control of the masses, not the corrupt few.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by awt on Saturday September 10, 2016 @08:53AM (#12468968)
This will go as well as the war on drugs, poverty, terrorism, et al.
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by digi_owl on Saturday September 10, 2016 @09:20AM (#12469053)
Do wonder how long it will take for some "mafia bank" to sprout...
Re:Harvard Economist Is Trying to Kill Cash by fithisux on Saturday September 10, 2016 @11:51AM (#12469714)
And convert it to what? Cash?