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Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by nathancahill on Thursday August 11, 2016 @10:40AM (#12268573)
Serious question: what are people building with these boards? The recurring projects I've seen are controlling lights, doors/locks and monitoring water in plants. I don't find these particularly compelling, am I missing something? How is this the next big thing?
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by manyxcxi on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:12AM (#12268853)
Because they're much friendlier to get started for the novice, most of the widespread examples seem extremely trivial to someone with experience.

Now- I'm DEFINITELY not an expert, probably barely mediocre with the EE fundamentals, but I did take a lot of EE and some robotics at Uni to get my degree in Computer Engineering. I am nothing more than a hobbyist but some of my cooler projects have been:

- Autonomous 4WD robot

- Quadcopter

- A USB nerf gun that shoots at the developer who broke the Jenkins build

- Used an electronic photo frame as a display to show happy birthday tweets and Facebook posts to my wife from all the friends and family on her birthday

- WiFi/Proximity garage door opener (before they were cool)

- Garage freezer monitor (after an accidental unplug that spoiled a season's worth of salmon and elk)

- A vending machine that let you pay with your work badge from 'points' you earned (this involved a Raspbery Pi and a surface tablet as well, but the Arduino was what actually controlled the vending machine)

I've done a ton of random home automation IoT gizmos, mostly just for the fun of it, and a lot of robot builds for the boys. But the reason I use a lot of Arduino is that they are pretty friendly to use, there's a lot of help when I'm stuck, and I often don't need more. When I do, sometimes I just add another Arduino (or 4) and use serial or SPI communications between them. I've got some PIC chips for stuff, and some other random chips laying around, but I get more done quickly with the Arduino.

Now, if I ever got on to an idea I wanted to make more permanent I would look elsewhere, but for a hobby, everything else provides more friction and ramp up in the few hours a month I can free up to work on stuff.

EDIT: I'll add I've gotten some ESP8266 chips/breakouts that I've gotten more used to and I may start using them in a lot of places I've previously used Arduino + WiFi because the WiFi breakouts use a LOT of the available I/O and are usually the most expensive part of a build. I think I have 2 or 3 that I reuse.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by timlyo on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:21AM (#12268933)
>A USB nerf gun that shoots at the developer who broke the Jenkins build

Anywhere I can read any more about this?

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by manyxcxi on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:26AM (#12268981)
I always mean to write up my projects but never do. The gist is really, through trial and error I was able to map developer's desks to coordinates and elevation angles to get to their seat and just made a flat file that had their username, X, Y, and Z values in it.

The main loop was just the standard socket server you'd find in a Ethernet module example and I wrote a Jenkins plugin that would connect on break and send the offending username over the socket.

There were at the time a number of examples showing how to control the USB launcher from Geekwire w/ an Arduino that I pretty much just copied.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by ayuvar on Thursday August 11, 2016 @12:14PM (#12269438)
You probably could have done some basic artillery calculations.

Then again, you might work in one of those weird offices where trying to measure the distance from your desk to theirs is more awkward than repeatedly attempting to shoot your coworkers while you fine-tuned the numbers.

Neat project!

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by manyxcxi on Thursday August 11, 2016 @01:22PM (#12270054)
Actually, having someone sit at their desk while I continued to shoot closer and closer to their face was probably the most fun of the entire project.

I tried some basic calculations, but as you could guess with a nerf dart, building HVAC, and all the other things going on it wound up being faster and easier (and again, more fun) just shooting until I was on target a couple of times.

After the first few desks it was pretty easy to get close on the first shot because you could generally know that 4ft left or right was about an adjustment value of +/- whatever from the last coordinate you had dialed in.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by soylentcola on Thursday August 11, 2016 @01:42PM (#12270241)
Plus then they can build defense fortifications and start an arms race!
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by fapjacks on Thursday August 11, 2016 @03:58PM (#12271164)
Precisely. I immediately started thinking about Arduino-powered counter-battery fire.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by trampi on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:24AM (#12268960)
I think it was on HN some time ago: https://github.com/codedance/Retaliation
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by manyxcxi on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:26AM (#12268989)
That's pretty much what mine was, but isn't mine (and probably better?)
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by screature2 on Thursday August 11, 2016 @04:46PM (#12271443)
Here's another similar Jenkins/USB/NerfDart gitblame launcher project...

https://github.com/codedance/Retaliation

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by flamedoge on Thursday August 11, 2016 @12:24PM (#12269534)
I keep throwing money at the screen, but I don't get the nerf gun.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by rjeli on Thursday August 11, 2016 @01:27PM (#12270095)
this is not reddit, please comment as such.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by pat_space on Thursday August 11, 2016 @12:11PM (#12269416)
Please!
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by win_ini on Thursday August 11, 2016 @12:25PM (#12269551)
Similar to the nerd question - could you describe your approach to the freezer monitor? I have a cabin I don't live nearby to, and I basically can't keep anything in the freezer. It seems to go out often enough to unfreeze then refreeze the ice cube water.

I was thinking a flat thermistor. Then I started thinking - what if it's not the power, but the freezer itself?

Now I'm getting into a battery to log when power is out, save that state, continue logging temps, then transmit after the wifi (assuming loss of power - although I have a UPS for the modem/wifi that will last a few hours) is available again. This obviously adds complexity.

Would love to hear your approach to that project....

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by barttenbrinke on Thursday August 11, 2016 @01:00PM (#12269873)
We used to put a marble and water in an empty camera film roll canister (transparant). Freeze in the freezer and flip over. If you come back and the Marble is frozen on the bottom of the canister: don't eat anything! #lowtech
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by mcpherrinm on Thursday August 11, 2016 @02:50PM (#12270710)
I've always just put an ice cube in a ziplock bag. If it isn't square, that means it's melted & refrozen. The marble trick seems like it's probably more sensitive, but I also don't have marbles and film canisters laying around.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by win_ini on Thursday August 11, 2016 @01:12PM (#12269986)
Low effort too: I just look at the ice in the bucket rose if it's frozen in a blob - or a pool of frozen water at the bottom. :)
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by manyxcxi on Thursday August 11, 2016 @01:14PM (#12269997)
This is a tip EVERYONE should know and I still do this! I use a half filled bottle of water, a small rock, and mark safe/not safe so anyone who's not me knows which way it should be.

Pretty sure it was my great-grandpa who taught me that.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by detaro on Thursday August 11, 2016 @01:18PM (#12270030)
I remember that my parents' old freezer had something like this built-in (using colored liquid instead of the marble, but the principle is the same). Seemed like such an easy and obvious feature.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by RankingMember on Thursday August 11, 2016 @01:12PM (#12269985)
I love low-tech solutions like this.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by centrinoblue on Thursday August 11, 2016 @03:32PM (#12271007)
I dabbled in designing a cooler/freezer monitoring setup for a local farmer not too long ago.

The 2 biggest constraints I found were power and communication from within the freezer.

One promising approach was - a BLE enabled temp. sensor beacon with a coin lion battery - a nearby externally mounted unit (RaspberryPi) plugged into a wall socket as a relay - a small central 'black box' SSD/Wifi/router ground-station to collect, store and push the data to the internet

The biggest question was whether the beacon signal could get through the freezer walls. If not then I was going to look into the idea of some super flat cable to enable a wired sensor connection without compromising the freezer seal (like a meat thermometer in an oven)

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by manyxcxi on Thursday August 11, 2016 @07:34PM (#12272470)
Depending on the freezer, putting a hole somewhere and sealing it up really well is just as good as the walls and insulation that were in there before. I did this to a chest freezer that wasn't terribly expensive and I haven't ever noticed that the outside of the hole is any cooler than surrounding areas, nor did I notice that it had to work any harder to keep it cool.

That being said, I didn't exactly exhaustively detail the before and after performance of the freezer either. I used the smallest drill bit possible that would let me get a probe in there and everything else is external of the freezer down by the compressor motor where there is a lot of extra room- and input power to tap in to.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by centrinoblue on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:02PM (#12273160)
I was evaluating designs from a potential commercial opportunity perspective so keeping things non-invasive was considered a constraint for ease of use and to avoid warranty/liability risk.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by manyxcxi on Friday August 12, 2016 @12:52AM (#12273455)
Well then that makes a lot of sense for not wanting to put holes in it.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by manyxcxi on Thursday August 11, 2016 @01:11PM (#12269972)
I keep approximately 5 minutes of temp readings (used a TMP36 sensor) at 1 minute intervals using an RTC (Real Time Clock) to more accurately time it. I made a small 'power tester' circuit that basically acts like a normally open button and closes when there's no power coming into the freezer. I may or may not have spliced into the wiring of the freezer for this and lied to my wife about it when she asked if I was going to burn the house down.

Side note: Is it just me or does it seem like you get asked this question frequently?

I have the 'button' circuit wired into an Arduino I/O pin just like you would an old normally open button. When the 'button' circuit closes the Arduino triggers a VERY audible siren I cut out of an old water leak detector. If I have 5 minutes above my temp threshold the siren goes off. I upgraded it over time to use a small LiOn battery and got a circuit to switch to it when incoming power is cut for whatever reason, and basically when in battery mode it's also siren time. I got through 10 minutes of siren battery testing before deciding it was good enough and I was tired of hearing it.

We've talked about doing something similar for the propane fridge and an activity sensor in my friend's cabin in remote central Oregon using a 3G breakout for communications but we've run into the issue that the 3G there is really spotty and we just couldn't reliably get a data connection out there. Also debugging electronics with no internet, running off generator and batteries, and in the dark because we were fishing all day doesn't lend itself to really getting the job done.

Since you have WiFi you may have what you need to do it more simply, although the 3G might be a safety net for the safety net once you get your solution done. My biggest problem at the cabin, besides the lack of cell coverage, is the lack of constant power. There's barely any solar power, and it's used to keep the batteries conditioned, and it's often weeks or months between people getting out there. I would think at your place you could pretty much just use my approach and add WiFi, or just use an ESP8266 instead of an Arduino and do everything else the same. The battery switchover stuff was the biggest pain in my butt, mostly just because I've not got a ton of LiOn experience.

EDIT: On the RTC and temp logging, it's really not necessary. I just did it to do it. You can use the oscillation ticks and a counter to get close enough. Hell, you can just bump the threshold up a little and raise the alarm as soon as you see it without logging anything and get a drastically simpler circuit.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by win_ini on Thursday August 11, 2016 @12:27PM (#12269583)
Oops. "Nerf" - not "nerd". Although I think we'd both agree - both terms apply.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by seanp2k2 on Thursday August 11, 2016 @04:08PM (#12271241)
Adalight is also cool and one of the very few projects where instead of being able to just do it on a basic stamp instead, it actually benefits from moving up to a Teensy for faster refresh rates. Adalight is TL;DR picture-sensitive ambient monitor / TV / projector backlighting. The colors around the monitor change based on what's on the screen. It's a neat effect that was standard on some Phillips TVs: https://learn.adafruit.com/adalight-diy-ambient-tv-lighting/...

http://davenewson.com/posts/2013/ambilight-with-teensy-2.htm...

Also works with e.g. XBMC. I'm hoping to get mine working with my FireTV.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by Kadin on Thursday August 11, 2016 @10:46AM (#12268627)
It's not "the next big thing", as much as it's a lot of little things. There's always been a gap between software and the physical world; the Arduino lets people easily bridge that gap. Though the typical projects are trivial as you suggest, the effect of being able to easily construct such projects is significant.

That said, I think there are other MCs aside from the Arduino that are more interesting today, because they have WiFi or Ethernet on-board, and you get into a much more interesting class of project when you add networking as a core feature rather than something that needs to be bolted on.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by FuNe on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:04AM (#12268765)
"other MCs aside from the Arduino that are more interesting today" Can you give a few links? Thanks in advance.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by Mister_Snuggles on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:11AM (#12268848)
The ESP8266 [0] is, in my mind, one of the most interesting things in the microcontroller world right now. It's cheap, small, easy to use, and connects to WiFi.

If you go into real computers, the C.H.I.P.[1] is quite an interesting device. It's $9, which is price competitive with the ATMega644 chip (in single quantities), has WiFi, Bluetooth, and runs Linux. It's also got lots of GPIO, like the Raspberry Pi, so it can be used in places where a microcontroller might normally be used.

I'm sure there are others, but these are the two that are on my radar at the moment.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESP8266

[1] https://getchip.com/

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by manyxcxi on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:22AM (#12268938)
I'm linking to the SparkFun ESP8266 breakout [0] because I found this to be so much easier to get my bearings with than the raw chips/breakouts I'd gotten from Alibaba. Granted, I got my hands on them very early and they were still reverse engineering the documentation on them, but using this dev board has saved me many hours. It's also quite inexpensive for one or two if you're just trying to play around.

[0] https://www.sparkfun.com/products/13231

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by Mister_Snuggles on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:32AM (#12269041)
Oh yeah, there's no doubt that you'd need something like this to get started. I figured I'd like to the Wikipedia article because there are so many things being built with this chip that it's hard to point to any one of them and say "this is it". It's really about the ESP8266 itself, what companies like SparkFun are building around it, and, finally, what hobbyists are building with those.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by whamlastxmas on Thursday August 11, 2016 @12:09PM (#12269397)
Can also get a WeMos D1 mini on AliExpress for $4 which is essentially the same thing but much smaller, and has lots of shields available.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by neltnerb on Thursday August 11, 2016 @12:23PM (#12269533)
I've entirely moved from Arduino to the Teensy, which is pretty much entirely software-compatible (excepting pin number changes), but uses an ARM Cortex M4 with 32-bit architecture at up to 96MHz on a much smaller board. The guy who makes them is also incredibly helpful on the support forums and constantly adding new features.

The peripherals are so much better it's comical. Basically all pins capable of 16-bit PWM, having dual 12-bit ADCs, a real DAC, and removing most of the extra junk? Amazing.

Now I just use it as a plug in brain for my custom boards, since it takes all the hardest to solder parts for an entire SoC and puts them in a form factor that's quite small and appropriate power for anything I've wanted to do so far.

https://www.pjrc.com/teensy/

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by brokenmachine on Thursday August 11, 2016 @10:42PM (#12273108)
Teensy is great but mostly overkill for the kinds of basic IOT stuff that I find myself doing.

I do want to do a project using a teensy with the audio board for beat detection eventually, but the teensy audio library still doesn't suppert beat detection. Paul posted that he would be adding it a couple of years ago I think, but it currently isn't implemented.

ESP8266 for ~$3 at 160MHz with wifi built-in is such a bargain I can't go past it most of the time, and when I don't need wifi and want to use the Arduino libraries, Arduino pro micros are about the same price and have USB HID support.

It's so great that there are so many great and well-documented options out there nowadays!

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by neltnerb on Friday August 12, 2016 @11:28PM (#12280108)
Aha, yeah, that does look quite nice. I haven't done a wifi project in a while, but the last one I did [1] I nixed using a wifi chip itself since they didn't have enough PWM outputs. It seems like they've gotten better enough that I could just use the one chip to make my wifi lighting projects vastly simpler.

[1] http://www.instructables.com/id/Ultra-bright-LED-Color-Chang... (things have come a long way since 2010!)

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by kordless on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:12AM (#12268851)
The Particle Photon is pretty awesome: https://store.particle.io/

Program in JavaScript, from a web IDE even. Wireless uploads to the board. $19.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by andyidsinga on Thursday August 11, 2016 @12:57PM (#12269839)
I have one of those and one of the original sparkcore wifi devices (and an electron too #bragging)

They are a really interesting IoT play becoming and MVNO and all!

Also -- they had one of the funniest kickstarter video's i've seen: https://youtu.be/-sP5hn6VDgE

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by anton_gogolev on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:07AM (#12268792)
ESP8266[0] springs to mind:

> The ESP8266 is a low-cost Wi-Fi chip with full TCP/IP stack and microcontroller capability...

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESP8266

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by kordless on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:13AM (#12268866)
I messed around with several versions of these and will say they are all sorts of a pain in the ass to get going. The Python stack I was using on them kept crashing when I would put it into power saver mode.

Still, it's pretty cool you can buy one for like $2 and basically have a computer that runs Python with some minimal microcontroller functionality.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by brokenmachine on Thursday August 11, 2016 @10:45PM (#12273120)
I think the software support has improved a lot since I first checked them out about a year ago.

I've only used the Arduino libraries, but I haven't had a problem yet.

Funny that a 160MHz board with wifi built-in can be referred to as "minimal microcontroller functionality" nowadays.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by kordless on Friday August 12, 2016 @01:25AM (#12273538)
Well, I consider a microcontroller to be controlling something not on board, so yeah. :) It's minimal in that it has two pinouts.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by david-given on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:31AM (#12269038)
I'm a big fan of the MSP430, which is the only ultra-low-end microcontroller that's not Harvard architecture. That is, code and RAM live in the same address space, which lets you load code at runtime without needing to fiddle about with reflashing.

This allows you to port real operating systems to it:

http://cowlark.com/2015-10-27-fuzix

It's also a really elegant architecture which is a pleasure to write assembly for, and it consumes absurdly small amounts of power.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by jdietrich on Thursday August 11, 2016 @12:33PM (#12269639)
For a similar market, the ARM Mbed platform is very compelling. You can program a wide range of ARM-based development boards from a browser-based IDE. They provide an Apache-licensed RTOS with comprehensive hardware support. There is an enormous range of compatible hardware, from 16MHz M0 up to 400MHz A9.

https://www.mbed.com/en/

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by jlewallen on Thursday August 11, 2016 @12:01PM (#12269328)
I've been working on a project that's using Adafruit's Feather line extensively and I've been very happy. The ones with the M0 chip are great to work with. Edit: They're using ATSAMD21G18
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by pjc50 on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:43AM (#12269145)
Arduino (the platform) has been to amateur electronics what BASIC was to home computing in the '80s. It's the platform with a user community and a huge number of example projects, that lets people learn easily with early results and a minimum of time and cost investment.

The toy projects are a journey, not a destination. Compare them to all those people typing in listings for Breakout games in the '80s computer magazines.

It's also a means of doing "IoT" home automation and monitoring without getting locked into someone else's surveillance ecosystem. I have a Raspberry Pi reading my electricity meter, for example.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by voidz on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:49AM (#12269203)
How does it read your electricity meter?
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by pjc50 on Thursday August 11, 2016 @12:06PM (#12269366)
I implemented this project: https://github.com/pjc50/emon-server

The meter has a (standardised) red LED that flashes once for each watt-hour. The Pi has a phototransistor that turns flashes into a GPIO transition interrupt. I've put it on my solar panel generation meter, and plan to build another (slightly improved) unit to monitor the mains input meter.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by exhilaration on Friday August 12, 2016 @12:31AM (#12273405)
Very nice, I've got a modern electric meter but had no idea this was possible.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by andyidsinga on Thursday August 11, 2016 @12:51PM (#12269798)
I've had similar questions from some of my hard core embedded colleagues, here's my answer:

Just think of something you might do with a traditional embedded systems approach, then google "arduino for ________" or "arduino shield for _______" and see what you'll find. Its can be pretty amazing. Its much broader that the surface stuff of LEDs and basic sensor / actuator tasks.

As someone who's done production embedded systems work, what I build from arduino (and the fairly large arduino ecosystem) is not for high volume product, its for proof of concept, small run pilots and show and tell (and fun).

Off topic a little: One thing I've done to convince colleagues of the a plausible story of arduino POC to Production is collect a bunch of arduino gear (simply through web search and amazon) and build a paper-product with all the cobbled together parts. Then pose the question "if these cobbled together things cost _______ in single quantities, is there a plausible story for them to be 10x (or 100x) less on a cost optimized board with a proper contract mfg"?

If the answer is yes, then you cobble together your arduino thing and go show and tell with customers.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by mr337 on Thursday August 11, 2016 @10:45AM (#12268616)
From what I have seen a lot of ppl who wouldn't want to sit down and grok a datasheet [1]. The friction of getting started with one of these is soooo small, assuming the serial driver installs on Windows. Out of the box support on other systems.

[1] - http://www.atmel.com/Images/Atmel-42735-8-bit-AVR-Microcontr...

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by nfriedly on Thursday August 11, 2016 @10:48AM (#12268639)
I used one to control a pair of candy machines for a Watson demo - there was a laptop with a microphone that did sentiment analysis on your speech, and then it told the Arduinos to give you either sweet or sour candy.

The next version is probably going to have a Raspberry Pi replace both the laptop and the Arduinos, but they were a good starting point to get the project up and running.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by douche on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:05AM (#12268773)
RaspPis are startlingly cheap these days, and surprisingly capable.

For less than a tank of gas, I just built a retro ROM console, and the new version 3 boards are beefy enough to run video through Kodi without missing a beat or play any old console games I've tried up through the PS1/N64 era.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by jdietrich on Thursday August 11, 2016 @12:48PM (#12269762)
They're not really equivalent. The Pi is a full-blown computer, for better and for worse. The Pi Zero draws 70mA at idle, while the Pi 3B draws more like 300mA even with most of the peripherals turned off. With a bit of tweaking, an Arduino will run for months on a coin cell.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by soapdog on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:24AM (#12268964)
That is not true to all countries and regions. For example, in Brazil a raspberry pi 3 will cost a bit more than USD 100 which is a lot of money for many people and prevent it from being acquired by low and middle income classes which are arguably among the ones that would most benefit from access to this ecosystem.

Arduino/Genuinos on the other hand are easily available on our version of eBay and can be purchased as low as USD 30 which is an order of magnitude difference between the prices, and yes, one is a real computer and the other a microcontroller but sometimes you get what you can afford.

this schism between arduino people is completely ignored here and we'll buy the cheapest chinese knockoff if it is available.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by nfriedly on Thursday August 11, 2016 @12:14PM (#12269439)
Yikes! Is that because the main distributors (RS/Allied Electronics/Newark) charge more to ship it to Brazil, or do they just not ship there at all and make you purchase through more expensive re-sellers? (Or is it something else like tariffs?)
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by khedoros on Thursday August 11, 2016 @01:42PM (#12270242)
https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/starting-a-business-with-a-...

That page has a few anecdotes. In summmary:

Case one: $35 (product cost) + $40 (international UPS shipping) + $100 (import and administration taxes)

Case two: "I bought one R-Pi from Farnell Brazil (http://www.farnell.com.br/) and I paid R$185,50 ( ~ U$90) with taxes and postage."

I remember trying to help some Brazilian users find the cheapest way to get a hold of one a couple of years ago, and I heard similar stories: high import taxes even when there were official distributors operating in the country, and high shipping charges when there weren't and they needed to order the devices internationally. I don't think that it's resellers trying to fleece their customers. I think it's just a fact of the Brazilian government's policies.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by rescbr on Thursday August 11, 2016 @01:14PM (#12269998)
Of the main Pi distributors, only Newark had local operations, and they closed shop last year.

Now the cost is higher due to low volume imports, so you end up paying more for shipping the boards. Also, taxes are higher if an individual is importing stuff, as customs use a simplified 60% tax over the retail price vs using the specific import tax (around 45% for the Pi) over the reseller price.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by soapdog on Thursday August 11, 2016 @02:54PM (#12270740)
Taxes and greediness play a strong role in Brazil. For example, I just imported 10 Tessels to start a class on IoT. So they charged 98% taxes, (60% import taxes + 20% icms + 18% of administrative fee from UPS).
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by gol706 on Thursday August 11, 2016 @04:50PM (#12271450)
Not an endorsement of this, but nothing that I have order directly from China has ever had an honest customs declaration on it. It's always a "gift" of "soap" or "lotion". I'm guessing if you charge 98% in taxes it's worth it to have customs agents who actually inspect things though.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by pjc50 on Thursday August 11, 2016 @04:10PM (#12271250)
Brazil has extremely high import taxes on all electronics.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by dejv on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:50AM (#12269217)
I built lab grade NIR spectrometer around Arduino. At least first two prototypes of it, then graduated to Teensy (32bits compatible board) and will use custom board for production.

The thing is: most of electronic projects needs some way to control things and it is great to take shortcuts. In my case all analog section was custom made to the point of 16bit ADC and used Arduino/Teensy as a way to react to clicks on button, transfer data to computer and stuff like that.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by StavrosK on Thursday August 11, 2016 @10:46AM (#12268620)
The compelling thing about them is that they're a gateway into hardware design. It's like asking "what serious apps have people made with Scratch?", it's rather missing the point. You start making a rotary mobile phone with Arduino and move on to make your own autonomous drone.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by samtho on Thursday August 11, 2016 @01:36PM (#12270185)
Arduino is a platform (the boards, the IDE, the language, debugging tools, etc) that allows any sort of user new to programming and/or hardware to get started very quickly. It is a great gateway into raw microcontrollers, as it is based on the Atmel/Microchip ATMega line of chips, which are also fairly easy to program. Most people can easily transition into that and build "production-ready" things.

Also, many 3D printers, laser cutting tools, and CNC routing tools use Arduino as their microcontroller of choice. It represents a huge community and is one of the most basic of tools in any new or seasoned maker's toolbelt.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by PeanutNore on Thursday August 11, 2016 @12:01PM (#12269327)
I wired my own custom board for it rather than using a commercial Arduino type board, but I built a guitar effects pedal that runs Arduino code to process a guitar signal using the built in ADC and a pretty basic passive DAC. It works great for effects like bitcrushing, distortion, compression, and I'm trying to get high and low pass filters working on it but haven't made any progress lately.

Schematic and code: https://github.com/PeanutNore/guitarduino

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by squeaky-clean on Thursday August 11, 2016 @12:32PM (#12269626)
This is really cool, I'm doing something similar! I'm making synthesizers with the Uno and Due; I haven't tried doing anything with audio input yet, but want to play with that as well. How is the sound quality of it? I did the 8-bit resistor ladder DAC from the instructable linked, but quickly broke the layout when I tried to bring it to a friend's house and haven't tried putting the breadboard back together. I really should go back to that, I liked how crappy it sounded. I also tried making a 1-bit DAC out of it, which worked better than I expected (though it still wasn't good, I just didn't expect anything haha).

Now I'm using the Due and Teensy (Cortex M3 / M4) because of the hardware DAC and 32 bit processor. I haven't gotten filters working yet either, they are my next goal. IIR first, and then FIR if the Due can handle it. But I have gotten a cool resonant filter simulation by using a hard-sync as described here [0]. You get some neat variations by changing the waveshapes used and the windowing function. I might not even have subtractive filters in my final design, just because of how cool it sounds to approach it differently, but I still want to understand how to implement them.

Nothing on Github to share at the moment, unfortunately. I'm too embarassed by the state of the code, lol. But I will be checking out your project this weekend, so thanks for sharing!

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_distortion_synthesis#Sim...

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by PeanutNore on Thursday August 11, 2016 @02:23PM (#12270528)
Thanks! The sound quality of it depends mostly on the sample rate it is able to achieve, which is somewhere around 9.6khz if all it's doing is reading a sample and then outputting it to the DAC. At 6bit 9.6khz a guitar sounds surprisingly clean through it, aliasing is only really noticable at the highest frets of the high strings. At lower bit depths and sample rates it gets really interesting.

Getting the best sound quality out of it also depends on finding the sweet spot on the input gain to get the best dynamic range from the DAC without clipping, although I designed the preamp to sound pleasant when overdriven, mostly using JFETs.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by jonlucc on Thursday August 11, 2016 @10:46AM (#12268621)
It's not the next big thing, so much as the next big educational thing, in my opinion. It is a simple enough system to put electronic power in the hands of people who wouldn't otherwise have it. They learn some basics of coding, some basics of electricity, and get something tangible out of it.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by dan1234 on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:08AM (#12268815)
I’ve built a few ESP8266[0] (so not Ardunio but same space) based sensors and have them distributed throughout a building so we can see how changes in one part affect the temperature and humidity in other parts.

They’re very cheap to build (we only use the project boards to prototype, final builds are on PCBs) and they can be run on small batteries when they’re just doing simple data collection.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESP8266

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by seizethecheese on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:52AM (#12269241)
Any tips for going from a project board to a PCB?
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by dan1234 on Thursday August 11, 2016 @03:20PM (#12270915)
I used KiCad[0] PCB design software and followed a lot of Youtube tutorials. This[1] one was the best tutorial I found, it seems pretty trivial at first glance but touches on all the parts of the process.

I use OSH Park for the actual PCB production[2], they're pretty cheap and good quality boards but be prepared for a bit of a wait. There's also a good price comparison site[3] for alternate suppliers.

[0]http://kicad-pcb.org

[1]https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLy2022BX6Esr6yxwDzhqY...

[2]https://oshpark.com

[3]http://pcbshopper.com

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by brokenmachine on Friday August 12, 2016 @12:48AM (#12273445)
I started on KiCad but found the interface very unintuitive.

I got stuck at the point of making my own footprints for custom devices, which I needed to do because the library doesn't seem to include all that much (or maybe I couldn't find devices I was using because I couldn't work out the UI for searching well enough.

Might have another go at some stage.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by seizethecheese on Thursday August 11, 2016 @07:51PM (#12272569)
Thanks!
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by nameless912 on Thursday August 11, 2016 @04:50PM (#12271451)
Well, the easy answer is the arduino is "easier" to get into than most other embedded development boards.

These days, though, that's becoming less and less true. You can pick up an ESP8266-based board complete with USB-serial built in and motherfucking Wi-Fi for 15 bucks from Adafruit, and it's identical to an Arduino code-wise (i.e. you can use nearly all the nice fuzzy constructs that the Arduino version of Processing provides), plus motherfucking Wi-Fi. I've been prototyping something with one the last couple of weeks, and it's great.

Compared to, for example, my senior design project in college, which predominantly involved writing shitty C code for ATMega-series microcontrollers, it's a breeze. I get C++, a huge standard library, consistent types, a Java-esque wrapper around std::string, and all the register ops to toggle or read pins and enable/disable features are completely abstracted away. It's like comparing writing an app server in Node.JS to writing it using Java EE. Obviously, equally possible in both languages, but one just feels so much nicer than the other.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by brokenmachine on Friday August 12, 2016 @12:57AM (#12273462)
Yeah, it's crazy now.

In my opinion, the Wemos D1 Mini seems like the best ESP8266 board at the moment.

Fits on a breadboard nicely, lots of GPIO, obviously wifi, all nicely set up with a reset button and auto programming mode on a built-in usb serial.

And the best part, I just bought one for AU$3.34 (US$2.57) on Aliexpress!!

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by brokenmachine on Monday August 15, 2016 @09:18PM (#12294841)
Oh yeah, the D1 Mini also has a very low quiescent current (25uA) RT9013 regulator, so it should be much better for use on battery power than the nodemcu with the LM1117 which uses 5mA! That's 200x less current wasted!

Also the dropout voltage is only 250mV compared to about 1V for the LM1117. You couldn't use a LiPoly battery to power it with an LM1117 because of the high dropout voltage.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by HeyLaughingBoy on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:31AM (#12269037)
Most of the interesting projects will never be posted online. You are seeing mostly beginners excited to get into hardware and posting what they do.

Arduino is "the next big thing" mainly because of the community that's sprung up around it: tons of libraries (of varying quality...), lots of cheap hardware and online resources make it easy to get started and continue past the beginner stage. Previous attempts (BASIC Stamp, etc) never made it to remotely this level of popularity.

e.g., I'm an experienced electrical/firmware engineer and I do Arduino prototype consulting on the side.

One of my recent projects was a downhole scanner for measuring well diameter. I also have a set of ongoing automation projects that are specific to a particular customer in the entertainment industry. Arduino turns out to be perfect for this kind of work.

This is the CRUD work of the Arduino world: basic automation that's not exciting or even difficult, but fills a real need.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by anotherevan on Thursday August 11, 2016 @06:11PM (#12271998)
Last week I used a Leostick[1] and an SR04 ultrasonic distance sensor[2] to create a presence detector for my computer. Now, if music is playing whenever I get up and walk away from my computer, it pauses the media player, and when I come back it starts playing again automatically.

[1] http://www.freetronics.com.au/products/leostick

[2] http://www.instructables.com/id/Simple-Arduino-and-HC-SR04-E...

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by maccard on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:18AM (#12268907)
I worked on some robotics research not too long ago. We used an arduino for interacting with motors, sensors etc. We ran some semi-interesting filtering on the data before passing it back to a more powerful processor that ran a python program that did the decision making and provided interactivity from the user.

The main reason we used the arduino was compared to all the alternatives (other similar hacker boards, and FPGAS say) it gave us a flexible toolkit, easy deployments to a board, and a very simple way of interacting directly with sensors throuhg a fairly convenient API.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by durkie on Thursday August 11, 2016 @10:59AM (#12268727)
we're building electronic noses with gas sensors to monitor fruit ripening and tell us when we should pick fruit trees.

arduinos are cool because they make physical computing really easy. they're just a nice tool.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by detaro on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:17AM (#12268896)
Interesting, that does work reliably? Could you tell us more?

(I've read about gas sensors in the past and it seemed like they are either extremely inaccurate or hideously expensive)

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by durkie on Thursday August 11, 2016 @01:29PM (#12270115)
We're just now getting them up and running, so I don't exactly know yet. I'm pretty sure that we can do it though. There are some interesting data analysis techniques (PCA, neural nets) that can be used to get meaningful results out of less than perfect data.

We're working with the guy that makes these: http://www.maskau.dk/projects/electronic-nose -- he's super thorough and has lots of interesting data.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by squeaky-clean on Thursday August 11, 2016 @12:06PM (#12269370)
I don't think it's "the next big thing." Not everything needs to be. I'm making a synthesizer with the Arduino Due (and Teensy which is compatible). It's a fun playground for things I would never normally get to do in C++ and asm. I've never gotten to code on a platform with true realtime and no OS restrictions before. Also the barrier to entry is so low, it makes it so much fun. WIthin less than 15 minutes of receiving my Amazon package I had my my first blinking LED working.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by pjmlp on Thursday August 11, 2016 @02:01PM (#12270384)
For me that would be the fun of it, to go back to the days where the language runtime was the OS and we literally own the machine.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by kbob on Sunday August 14, 2016 @01:41AM (#12284407)
Arduino is not the next big thing; it's arguably a few years past its peak. But the thing is, it's really really fast to prototype stuff.

Last week I needed to convert an analog voltage to a pulse width -- I had a potentiometer and I wanted to control an ESC. It took me less than 10 minutes to breadboard and code that on an Arduino clone (Teensy).

The week before, I needed a frequency counter. Again, it took less than 10 minutes.

I've done more elaborate projects, but the point is that the overhead to get started is tiny.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by Obi_Juan_Kenobi on Thursday August 11, 2016 @05:28PM (#12271689)
My practical-ish project: an advanced egg-timer.

I looked for some time trying to find a good egg timer, but there are really just two options, and neither are that great. You can have a nice, intuitive analog interface (the classic dial timer), but you lack precision and many are very poorly constructed and unreliable (seriously, look at Amazon reviews for this type). There's also no way to fine-tune the alarm; some are horrendous, while other are inaudible. The digital ones solve some of this issue, but have terrible UI requiring many button clicks.

I used a digispark ($1 for ebay clones), two rotary switches set up as voltage dividers, an arcade button, and an addressable LED strip to make a better timer. You input minutes with one knob, and seconds with the other. This has wonderful tactile feedback, is completely precise, and entirely intuitive. The LED strip counts up (and shifts red to green) as the timer passes, does a rainbow swipe/strobe for a few seconds to alert, and then 'cools down' so you can get a sense of how badly you overshot. There's also a buzzer. It's good for the kitchen, but I actually find it best as a rest-period timer for weightlifting. The visual display is great for loud gyms.

It's 100% a better timer than anything else on the market, and I absolutely love it.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by icefox on Thursday August 11, 2016 @07:52PM (#12272575)
Could you build one that had a tilt sensor and would start counting up whenever it when off? If so I would buy it.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by Florin_Andrei on Thursday August 11, 2016 @02:03PM (#12270395)
Well, I built these things:

1. A mechanical/environmental monitor/display for a grinding/polishing machine for telescope mirrors. It measures the rotation speed of two key machine parts; also measures ambiental temperature and humidity. It displays all these parameters on a front panel.

http://florin.myip.org/blog/making-tachometer-grinding-polis...

2. Lights control for an aquarium

Regular fish tank, LED lights with timer. The lights would turn on or off suddenly, scaring the fish. :) I used pulse-width modulation and a MOS-FET to gradually fade the lights in and out over 1 hour.

3. PC clock

I've setup time limits on PC usage for my kids. But before Windows 10 the login screen on Windows 7 didn't have the time displayed, so they didn't know when their accounts would actually let them log in. I've found a big LED display that fits almost exactly in a CD-ROM bay, and built a clock with it. It's synced to the PC every time the OS boots up.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by cptskippy on Thursday August 11, 2016 @01:42PM (#12270249)
The big thing about Arduino is that it makes embedded electronics more accessible to people.

Arduino is a C Framework for interacting with hardware that is portable across microprocessors. Arduino also offers an IDE that's modular and allows vendors to package up their Workflows for programming their Microprocessors and easily integrate it.

What this means is that a naive user can pickup any Arduino compatible board, configure the IDE to be able to program that board via a single URI from the vendor, write some code in C using the Arduino framework, and push it to the board with the click of a button.

So if you have had an idea for a piece of hardware, Arduino makes it ridiculously easy to prototype it. And since it's based on standard microprocessors, if the overhead of Arduino is too much then you can replace it with the microprocessor OEM's workflow and port your code over. It's a very accessible RAD environment.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by TheCapn on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:40AM (#12269111)
Personal uses of Pi/Arduino:

- Garage opener/security (door sensing / camera & push notificaitons to cellphone) (Pi)

- 2-axis solar tracker with manual control & wind speed sensing (Arduino)

- Home VPN Server (Pi)

- Sump water level monitor (Pi)

- Industrial temperature cable sensing and reporting device for reading from ~140 cables (http://www.advancedgrainmanagement.com/products/temperature-...) (Pi)

So as others have said, if you have the ability to do it you're limited by what you can imagine. If you treat the output in the same way you would any industrial automation you're virtually only limited by what you can imagine you want to do with the device. I've set up a Pi as a home media server (though that's extremely common). I've got a friend using Pi for underground sprinkler control.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by rawfan on Thursday August 11, 2016 @12:37PM (#12269674)
Depending on what your trade is, you often need prototypes of things that do stuff. Before Arduino is usually cost thousands of dollars to make these (only counting the hardware cost). Arduino drove that price down to a fraction. It's easy to develop pretty much everything in very little time.

Here are couple rather uncommon examples:

  - a greeting card with an integrated mobile baseband that calls a certain number once opened ("hey grandma!")
  - a tea-timer that automatically pulls out the teabag after a set amount of time
  - a UV-dosimeter that measures the actual amount of UV exposure and connects to your smartphone to track the data and warn of potential damage (with respect to your skin-type).
  - the DIY-cellphone by David Mellis modified to display reading from arbitrary sensors
Your imagination is the limit. ;)
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by ourcat on Thursday August 11, 2016 @03:29PM (#12270984)
Many get them to learn to program and get acquainted with a Linux command line. Especially kids at school.

Personally, I've been learning how to utilise my software skills to controlling hardware. Lots of fun.

Also opens up a new horizon of ideas.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by reidrac on Thursday August 11, 2016 @10:49AM (#12268652)
I'm not sure it is the "next big thing" as you say.

The Arduino IDE and all the ecosystem of libraries and community could be the actual "big thing", because the Arduino is just a convenient development board; but you can get those from the chip manufacturers themselves (OK, may be now those are nicer because the Arduino boards).

I think the IDE is making the hobbyists able to work with microcontrollers in a very easy way; compared with all the tooling and docs you have to read to build your own dev board and program the MCU yourself.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by merpnderp on Thursday August 11, 2016 @01:47PM (#12270292)
When they first came out I used one to build a UAV on top of a 6' electric glider. The Arduino simply controlled the PWM's for the rudder, elevator and motor and then fed sensor data over a zigbee. My laptop, connected through a zigbee, actually flew the plane. I had hacked together my own INS from accelerometers and magnetometers, plus a joystick to override.

Was fun until it crashed into a pond after a stupid code update that had the IR sensors invert the sky and ground.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by platz on Thursday August 11, 2016 @04:44PM (#12271434)
Would you have a similar reaction to non-techincal folks learning a bit of web dev in order to set up another 'cookie-cutter' blog for themselves?
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by vonklaus on Thursday August 11, 2016 @02:54PM (#12270736)
Anecdotally, I have been using the pi and arduino to learn. They have the basics for small projects and easy interfaces for getting started.

The communities are large and it makes it very easy to find beginner and intermediate projects. I like them both and recommend them. They may not Be the perfect base for a robust IoT project but one can do a lot of interesting things and learn a lot doing beginner and intermediate level projects

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by Symmetry on Thursday August 11, 2016 @02:29PM (#12270578)
As a small robotics startup we use Arduinos to control our grippers just because it was easy for the founders to get started and because adding new features is fairly fast. We've actually moved to a board that pretends to be a mega2560 but is entirely custom but we're still sticking with the Arduino libraries.

Some day we might move to a standard uC approach but that'll be when we have many more employees.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by Washuu on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:54AM (#12269260)
I am working on a write up on a project for CAN bus messages to CCD bus messages for old Chrysler vehicles. A mixture of reverse engineering and vehicle bus interfacing.

Note: I am using a Teensy instead of an Arduino, but using the Teensyduino Arduino IDE plugin.

https://github.com/Alexia/CAN-CCD_bus

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by zenogais on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:24AM (#12268966)
I worked on a government defense contract a few years back that used an Arduino to raise a 100-ft tower on a mobile command station.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by bholzer on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:20AM (#12268923)
Last Christmas, a friend of mine did an musical project that he wanted to spice up with a light show.

Another friend and I created a lighting controller that did realtime signal processing and MIDI-controlled lighting, which relied heavily on Arduino.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by ArkyBeagle on Thursday August 11, 2016 @01:12PM (#12269988)
These boards are just low cost "evaluation" bards for whatever chip is on them. If we include larger chips ( say an ARM Cortex A8 on the Beaglebone Black ) , they're great for test fixtures and prototyping systems.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by wangchow on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:24AM (#12268967)
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by misnome on Thursday August 11, 2016 @03:41PM (#12271059)
It's neat to have a nice, easily controllable small board, but yeah - I went to a Maker Fair last year and one stand was showing off an "Arduino-powered doorbell". It's possible to take it too far.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by dvt on Thursday August 11, 2016 @03:01PM (#12270788)
I built http://gameref.io with an Arduino board. Not sure about the "next big thing," but it raised a few eyebrows.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by knicholes on Thursday August 11, 2016 @12:45PM (#12269734)
I used an arduino to receive weights of coins from a scale and then trigger flippers to remove coins into various buckets depending on their classifications.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by the_af on Thursday August 11, 2016 @12:12PM (#12269427)
Apparently the Arduino is part of some DIY 3D printers. I'd say that is a big deal!
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by jldugger on Thursday August 11, 2016 @11:50AM (#12269220)
You mean you're not using Arduino to grow weed with indoor hydroponics?
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by devnull42 on Thursday August 11, 2016 @10:54AM (#12268679)
We use them all over my office because each team has their own metrics portal and we can just plug one into a big screen TV and have it run that portal. Cheaper than a full computer and just as effective.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by trevyn on Thursday August 11, 2016 @10:57AM (#12268702)
That would be a Raspberry Pi, my friend.
Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by laurent123456 on Thursday August 11, 2016 @10:46AM (#12268625)
I don't think it's really a "big thing", it's mostly for hobbyist projects (since you need to know quite a bit about software development, Linux, etc.), and for that purpose it's quite good.

It's cheap and you can easily connect leds, motors, etc. and control them via Python scripts. It's also frequently used to create home entertainment units for music, films or video games (emulators in particular), since there's an HDMI port that you can connect to your TV.

Re:Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more by utexaspunk on Thursday August 11, 2016 @10:49AM (#12268649)
Arduinos do not have HDMI ports. You're thinking of a Raspberry Pi