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Re:YC’s Summer Reading by swanson on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @01:50PM (#12175002)
I've not read the book version but "How Buildings Learn" is one of my favorite things ever (a great case-study for looking outside of software for lessons that can apply to well...software).

Stewart Brand (of Longnow fame) produced a really lovely 6 part series for BBC in the late 90's and they are on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/brandst/videos -- highly recommended (Warning: there is a very loud and obnoxious beeping during the first 10 seconds or so)

A look at "the evolution of buildings and how buildings adapt to changing requirements over long periods" -- replace buildings with software and you’ve probably got a best-seller from Pragmatic Programmers!

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by pjmorris on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @02:14PM (#12175235)
I'm a huge fan of Stewart Brand, starting with the 'Next Whole Earth Catalog', which is where I learned how big a fan Brand is of Christopher Alexander and his 'A Pattern Language'. Alexander's work in patterns inspired the 'Gang of Four' to write 'Design Patterns'... so I think your best-seller prediction is not only correct, but empirically validated :)
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by neves on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @06:15PM (#12176904)
Please let me disagree. It is a beautiful book, but really boring and repetitive. Never finished it. I'll resume it for you all: "Buildings change over time to adapt for their owners livestyle."

The really good part is the author bashing renowned architects that build prize winning buildings that leak.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by andyjohnson0 on Thursday July 28, 2016 @05:57AM (#12179332)
> I'll resume it for you all: "Buildings change over time to adapt for their owners livestyle."

An important concept in the book is "shearing layers" [1]: different parts of a building change at different rates due to differential pressures. E.g. walls change faster than foundations.

Its a few years since I last read it, but fwiw I found the book insightful and not at all boring. Each to their own though.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shearing_layers

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by swanson on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @07:47PM (#12177380)
I've never read the book so you aren't disagreeing :)

Sounds like the video series might be the way to go if the book is too repetitive

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by kriro on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @06:24PM (#12176932)
Thanks for sharing. I just watched the first couple of episodes and they were pretty great. Reminds me a lot of "Design of everyday things" meets buildings.

And of course the mental transfer to software is fairly obvious (think user centered design, make sure software is adaptable etc.)

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by overcast on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:46PM (#12176391)
I'm really surprised to see Ready Player One on there. It relied way too heavily on the 80's nostalgia, to prop up the shallow story telling. But even that got old, it was like hanging around with someone that talks entirely in movie quotes, while fun at the right times, gets stale fast. You didn't care about the character, because there was nothing for him to really lose.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by whyleyc on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @05:39PM (#12176715)
I thought Ready Player One was Cyberpunk-lite. For actual brain-bending, dystopian-but-vaugely-plausible futurism I would highly recommend the latest William Gibson novel "The Peripheral".

He's always had a fascinating ability to meld technology and spirituality with a barnstorming plot thrown in for good measure. This latest novel is nicely impenetrable in places too - giving you just enough outline to be curious without serving it all up on a plate.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by bmer on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:49PM (#12176420)
Totally agree with you. I couldn't get past the first few chapters, because it was flat out boring.

Compared to something like Leviathan Wakes, by James S.A. Corey...Ready Player One is so....

boring.

There, I said it too.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by overcast on Thursday July 28, 2016 @08:50AM (#12179834)
I'll check out Leviathan Wakes, thanks!
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by wrsh07 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @08:08PM (#12177482)
It's fun, but if you want dystopian capitalist world with a parallel vr universe, snow crash has more surprising ideas. (And better writing)

Although it's a bit violent and has some... interesting mechanisms (as I was told: it gets weird)

Also, the nostalgia comes baked in because it was written in the 90s. Still super relevant though

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by oxymoron on Thursday July 28, 2016 @05:25AM (#12179238)
_Snow Crash_ is good fun, and I really liked the speculative elements. It led me down the path of becoming a Stephenson junky which, coming from someone that tries to avoid reading many big novels by a single author, breaks a bit with my own principles. _Cryptonomicon_ need hardly be mentioned anymore, considering it's repute, but lately I've been reading the "prequel" trilogy consisting of _Quicksilver_, _The Confusion_ and _The System of the World_. It's set in the same literary universe, centering on events in the late 17th and early 18th century, basically tracing the early days of science. They also feature some quite humorous fictionalized versions of real life historical figures. At some point I'm probably going to look into _Anathem_ and _Seveneves_ as well. All that said, Stephenson has a rather particular style which seems to be very polarizing, but I definitely encourage giving him a shot.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by raywu on Thursday July 28, 2016 @11:21AM (#12180767)
_Anathem_ is great. Very slow build up. The interwoven theme of race, religion, time and space makes it well worth the slow construction of the world. Here's a video of him speaking at Google for the book tour http://youtu.be/lnq-2BJwatE
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by ryanSrich on Thursday July 28, 2016 @12:14AM (#12178281)
+1 for snow crash. RPO is like "Snow Crash For Dummies"...enjoyable, but not the same.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by overcast on Thursday July 28, 2016 @10:25AM (#12180373)
I thought SnowCrash was horrendous, with terrible writing. Most overrated book I've read to date, by far.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by ashark on Friday July 29, 2016 @12:12PM (#12187805)
I've read several Stephenson novels and the only one that didn't follow the pattern of:

[great, great first 3rd]

[2nd third: OK, this isn't as good, but I think he's setting up for something in the last 3rd so I'm still on board I guess]

[last 3rd: oh f_ck you this is awful.]

Was Cryptonomicon.

The one that did it the worst was The Diamond Age, which followed that pattern so strongly that it made me swear off Neal Stephenson forever. At one point he has to have one character tell us what another character's motivation has been, in a conversation with that character, in a scene that exists solely for that purpose, because there's no possible way the reader could have puzzled it out otherwise. And that's just one of the problems. What a disaster, and what a great first third. Still makes me mad.

[edit: formatting]

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by wrsh07 on Thursday July 28, 2016 @03:56PM (#12182720)
Have you read RP1? If you haven't and that's your impression of Snow Crash: Don't.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by overcast on Thursday July 28, 2016 @10:48PM (#12184769)
Look at the parent of this thread, I started it to show my disdain for that book.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by wrsh07 on Friday July 29, 2016 @11:36AM (#12187509)
Ah right. Any recent books you're enjoying?
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by dvirsky on Thursday July 28, 2016 @03:32AM (#12178872)
I liked it actually, but I didn't expect more than a light fun read. It's pop-lit, not a groundbreaking masterpiece, and I didn't find it boring at all.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by kriro on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @05:30PM (#12176655)
I managed to finish it and mostly share your sentiment however I think it is a decent vision/motivation for VR (not so much AR/Pokemon Go style as mentioned in the post). At least for my personal research in VR-UI/UX I like to ask myself "how far is this from RPO...what steps would get us further" since I think the overall "parallel world in VR" is a neat goal to work towards (my personal utopian interpretation ignoring the dystopian view of RPO).
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by brudgers on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @06:38PM (#12177012)
I'd consider it a decent beach read but wouldn't nominate it for a Hugo [not that I'm likely to be asked for my nomination]. I read it off the public libary new shelf a few years ago. It was two or three evenings' worth of reasonable entertainment and Pokemon Go reminded me of having read it.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by x1798DE on Friday July 29, 2016 @08:48AM (#12186441)
They don't invite you to nominate books, you get to vote if you are a member of the World Science Fiction Convention: http://www.thehugoawards.org/i-want-to-vote/
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by maerF0x0 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @07:21PM (#12177253)
I ground through it to the end. Still regret it.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by bduerst on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:59PM (#12176480)
People I've talked to about it tend to like it because it's vr-heavy dystopia with a persistent world.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by ryanSrich on Thursday July 28, 2016 @12:13AM (#12178277)
And the fact that it's going to be a movie just makes no sense. Unless they make a major departure from the original story, I just don't see how it'll work.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by cs702 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @02:11PM (#12175212)
I would add "Lords of Finance" to the list: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001QIGZEK

The book, which won a Pulitzer in 2010, describes the financial crises and global economic depression that followed the Great Crash of 1929 -- relevant to the current (post-2008-crisis) state of affairs.

Normally, books on these topics are dull and dreary. This one is surprisingly interesting and fun, in part because it shows how colorful personalities, prevailing wisdom, and political realities influenced events.

PS. The first chapter is available for free at the New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/15/books/chapters/chapter-lor...

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by msutherl on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:25PM (#12175790)
So glad "Seeing Is Forgetting the Name of the Thing One Sees" is here – one of my favorite books and the reason I became an artist ... and then stopped being an artist.

One of my most referenced parts of the book describes an entire year Irwin spent in Ibiza (IIRC) alone and not speaking to anyone in his late 20s. The insight he gathered that year really determined the rest of the career and enabled him to step outside of the zeitgeist of the time (abstract expressionism) into something totally different.

If you're in LA, you can see a garden he designed at the Getty Center. If you're in New York, you can visit DIA Beacon, which he also designed (or non-designed really). And if you ever get a chance to see his artwork, I highly recommend it.

Such restraint, such slowness.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by Yhippa on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @02:29PM (#12175355)
Just curious, what's everybody's pace around here? It took me about a month to casually get through "Ready Player One" (great book BTW), and that was for a book club. It seems like a lot of the people I respect get through about a book a week. Either they're lying or have such good focus to avoid distractions other than books. Maybe I could put down the HN for a bit.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by brudgers on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @07:03PM (#12177135)
When I read for light entertainment, [that's how I read Ready Player One] it's roughly a replacement for watching movies/TV. It gets chunked into multi-hour sessions over two or three or so nights. If the book doesn't motivate me to read at least 100 or so pages the first and second evening, odds are I won't finish it. I used to worry about not finishing books, now I don't.

On the other hand, recently I have started rereading a few books by some favorite authors and those I have read slowly. Not everything is worth savoring or caring about much beyond the general idea.

Reading is habits and my habits around reading for several hours formed when I was a child. On the other hand, my beloved only really started reading for fun after we were living together and its taken a couple of decades to get to reading several books at once or sometimes finishing books in a few days.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by melvinmt on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:07PM (#12176103)
I mostly read business management books, but since most of them can be summarized in a couple pages (or a single big blog post, really) I just skim and skip through the hundreds of uninteresting anecdotes and simply stop reading after I grasp the concept of the book. Takes me a couple of hrs in total per book.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by jacalata on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @08:21PM (#12177547)
When I'm reading to learn, I take notes - and if I get through a chapter or two without taking any notes I will probably abandon the book.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by elevensies on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:17PM (#12175742)
Right now I am averaging 1 to 2 books per week (because I'm only working part time this summer), working full time it would be more like 0.5 to 1 per week.

I find for something with a narrative structure, in a normal book format, I expect to spend about 1 minute per page -- very approximately.

For example, I bought "Night Train To Lisbon" at 2AM last Saturday night to read as I was falling asleep, and I finished it around 2AM last Sunday. At 470 pages, ~ 8 hours of reading, not that different than a normal work day worth of "effort" on Sunday.

For me, the most important thing is finding books that interest me -- that is why I would decide to spend an evening reading instead of other solo downtime like watching tv or a movie, or gaming.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by fmavituna on Thursday July 28, 2016 @07:02AM (#12179517)
I used to commute 3 hours a day, I used to finish 1-2 books per week. 3 hours of solid reading every single day.

Now, depending on the book it can be 1 week to 3 months as I don't commute and when I'm at home it's quite hard to drop everything read for one hour.

So I think it depends on people's lifestyle, if you are commuting 3 hours a day reading a book in a week is very very easy.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by avindroth on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @07:59PM (#12177433)
I write a lot while reading. Sort of like having a conversation with the author.

I read less books this way, but the knowledge in the books become much more internalized. I tend to implement them much faster too. And aren't we reading, in part, to better our lives (short-term pleasure or long-term changes)?

Of course, I read fiction just for the pleasure as well (like Ready Player One).

This method of reading also sharpened my bullshit detector. If I am not writing a lot, this indicates lack of insights. Either a bad book or a bad time for that book. So either way, a bad book for me.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by sp527 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @10:12PM (#12177907)
I'd be very curious to hear more about this. I've flirted on and off with note-taking on books for all the same reasons you mention, but I invariably feel guilty about progressing too slowly. In a weird way, I think this a quintessentially American affliction - like our obsession with throughput and productivity washes into our real lives as well. I'm just wondering what you do to fight that instinct. Specifically, I think the two things that get me are : (1) feeling bad about not reading enough and (2) worrying about being ultimately disappointed with a book and having wasted my time taking notes.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by avindroth on Thursday July 28, 2016 @10:57AM (#12180598)
I feel much smarter after reading more slowly. When someone asks me, "What are you reading?" I feel much more confident in answering that question.

And the knowledge is less flimsy as well; I become a master, not a slave, of the material. I do not place the source material on a pedestal. I take what I need, and discard the garbage.

I can also cook the material much better. I am able to merge ideas from the book with my previous interests. The products from mental fusing turn out to be solid business ideas and mental models.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by arvinsim on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @11:55PM (#12178220)
Very interesting. I always had this fear in the back of my mind that reading books about personal development is useless since I can't retain the information long enough to apply at the right time.

Your method might just be what I need to do to get better at this.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by avindroth on Thursday July 28, 2016 @11:08AM (#12180663)
To implement what you read, employ the method of Directives[1]. These days my notes look like the following (from "The Inevitable" by Kevin Kelly):

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You hate updates? Get used to them. Because in the future, living — for most surrounded by technology — will be a constant stream of updates.

1. Embrace being an Endless Newbie; don't be embarrassed if you don't know something!

In the era of constant updates, we will be newbies — forever. Something else we have to get used to. You won't have time to master anything, really. Most of the technologies that will play a large role in the next thirty years have not been invented.

...

We are living in the golden age. We just don't realize it. The last thirty years has created a great starting point. It is the best time ever in human history to begin.

You are not late.

2. Study AI and Hardware. Go out and slap AI and sensors to everything.

----------

The numbered list is my list of Directives. These imperatives seamlessly organize my notes well; all other pieces of information turn into arguments for these assertions. This info-gathering process feels very intuitive. Our brain must be good at gathering evidence for a piece of advice.

Besides the general Directives, I use org-mode for my tasks. The end goal is to develop sensible systems, not drain your willpower performing these directives. So when I have an idea for implementing a sensible system, I write it down in org-mode (which has a numbered list of all my tasks).

[1]: https://sivers.org/2do

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by bewe42 on Thursday July 28, 2016 @09:27AM (#12180021)
I use a similar but somewhat simpler method: whenever I read something, immediately after I have a finished I try to write down everything I remember. That has helped me a lot to internalize the material. Another method: in subjects I'm deeper interested, before starting to read, I scan the chapters and headlines and write down what I expect to learn and what I already know.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by avindroth on Thursday July 28, 2016 @10:53AM (#12180572)
That is awesome. Reminds me of Barbara Oakley's Mind for Numbers; she tells her students to practice recall rather than rereading the material for learning.

When I am reading to converse, I am inclined towards not looking at the original text while writing notes. This helps me capture the material into the right context, as well as remember in the long-term.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by ErrantX on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @05:28PM (#12176638)
I go in fits and starts; anything from 3-4 books a week to 5 in 3 months. Just find quiet moments; 10 minutes, 6 times a day is an hour all told. I read on the commute, over lunch, whilst waiting for the kettle to boil, when waiting for my partner to change for bed. It adds up.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by wikwocket on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @07:12PM (#12177191)
I am working on Neal Stephenson's REAMDE. I say "working on" as opposed to "finishing" since it's more of a side job than a casual read. You don't really make progress, you just sort of periodically put another hundred pages between you and the front cover, without really budging how far down the binding your bookmark is.

REAMDE is sort of like if someone looked at the average globe-spanning complicated plot and action scenes of a Bond movie, and said, "I guess it's alright, you know, for a short story."

To answer your question, I am changing my metric from "books read per trip the library" to "trips to the library (to renew my loan) per book."

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by oxymoron on Thursday July 28, 2016 @05:34AM (#12179268)
Yep. Stephenson takes me a while. I kept track whilst reading _Quicksilver_ and it ended up taking me 50 days, with the baseline being 50 minutes a day on weekdays during my commute, and the odd extra hour every now and then when I had a bit of time to spare.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by Axsuul on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @02:35PM (#12175405)
Audiobooks are also a good way to blast through content at the expense of a retention cost.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by kriro on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @05:47PM (#12176759)
I mostly read nonfiction and usually do it "marker and pencil in hand" so I try to read carefully and soak up new ideas. I commute by train and read about a midsized book/week that way (sometimes I sleep instead of reading, sometimes I do other stuff etc.). For the commute reading I usually pick things that aren't very meaty like popscience (the Ariely books on behavioral economics or Fooled by Randomness are good examples) or intro/overview type of books like Secrets and Lies. Most fiction I read is SciFi, the occasional fantasy and some horror and thrillers/crime.

My reading is a bit odd since I tend to read 3-5 commute books at a time picking the one that I feel like each day.

At home I enjoy the occasional comic book (some superhero stuff but mostly things like Transmetropolitan, From Hell or Criminal) and grind out more meaty books, mostly mathematics or physics and work related stuff (programming, algorithms etc.). Basically anything that involves exercises or long/hard thinking. The pace is rather slow, I aim at one good non-programming related book per month and sprinkle in the work related stuff.

tl;dr I read a lot and enjoy it :D

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by lolptdr on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @02:32PM (#12175384)
I think it depends. I take months to finish a book casually, but when a true page-turned like "Ready Player One" pops up, I blazed through it in days. I think there's a need for active reader engagement, where there is incentive ("It's going to be a movie directed by Steven Spielberg and music composed by John Williams!") to enjoy the fruits of being cool before it becomes cool.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by schlagetown on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:48PM (#12176411)
Aiming for ~ a book a week, and have been holding steady around that mark for around the past 3 years (avg. 50 books / year). I got through Ready Player One in a weekend when I had nothing else to do, but it took me a good couple months to get through Infinite Jest this year…try to balance it out with a good mix of fiction / nonfiction and easy / hard books. I waste plenty of time online, too, but average something in the ballpark of an hour / day of book-reading.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by tedmiston on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @07:46PM (#12177370)
I don't even really read whole books. At least technical ones, I tend to hunt for the chapters/sections strictly relevant to problems at hand or upcoming. Non-technical books, I tend to skip to the most interesting chapters first and read out of order. Reading this way makes it somewhat difficult to define a pace, though I would say I read slower than average and prefer very detail-oriented reading over skimming.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by matt4077 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:56PM (#12176010)
It depends on the book. For fiction, I usually finish it that night (I'm bad ay delayed gratification).

Non-fiction isn't quite as addictive usually and a week is about average. I usually carry it everywhere and use any free time >1min for reading (i. e. standing in line.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by ryanSrich on Thursday July 28, 2016 @12:17AM (#12178289)
I shot for 1 book per month last year and got through maybe 9.5. This year I've been more productive and have hit 12 already. Granted some of the reads I've done have been small (like the MIT essential knowledge series).
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by bcd_ on Thursday July 28, 2016 @02:35AM (#12178701)
Would you recommend the MIT essential knowledge series?
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by bduerst on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @05:11PM (#12176543)
Usually a book every 2-3 weeks.

If you are looking for a new book and want to ruin your standards for fiction, read the Red Rising trilogy. I can't help use it as a measuring stick for evaluating new books as I read them :/

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by wrsh07 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @08:05PM (#12177460)
I've been reading one paperback and one audio book simultaneously. The paper back is slow: one every month or two. The audio book is for when I run, so it's based on mileage.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by bcbrown on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:16PM (#12176168)
This year, I've explicitly been trying to read a book every two weeks, and am at 19 for the year, slightly ahead of pace. Previously, I was reading about 5-10 books a year.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by screature2 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:17PM (#12176176)
Books tend to fill my lengthy public transportation commutes. also I'm not opposed to borrowing some sleep time to get in a few more pages.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by criddell on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:25PM (#12176226)
I regret reading before sleep. I think I've conditioned myself to sleep anytime I read now. I can rarely get more than a five or six pages before I start to drift off.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by Normal_gaussian on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:43PM (#12176369)
I regret reading before sleep. I think I've conditioned myself to think a lot any time I lie in bed now. I can rarely get to sleep within an hour of going to bed.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by cardigan on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @02:38PM (#12175434)
Less than a day for Ready Player One ;( Not focus for me as much as how much fun I'm having
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by freyir on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:59PM (#12176044)
I tried listening to the RP1 audiobook, but the non-stop barrage of 80s & 90s nerd cred references seemed too forced. It may have been Wil Wheaton's delivery, which seemed to emphasize each and every reference. I gave up after a chapter or two. Does this continue throughout the book or does it ease up?
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by anateus on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @05:41PM (#12176721)
It only increases.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by sn9 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @07:03PM (#12177145)
If you set a goal of about 50 pages per night, you'd be surprised how much you can read.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by tgb on Thursday July 28, 2016 @02:41AM (#12178715)
How fast do you read that though? I'm like the grand parent post, 50 pages is an onerous commitment, something I'll only get done if I'm really really into a book and have nothing else to do that day, or am stuck on a plane. It'll take me around eight hours of reading to finish a short young adult book, for example.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by sn9 on Thursday July 28, 2016 @05:14PM (#12183223)
Not particularly fast. I'm probably average for the typical college-educated adult.

Obviously it varies with the density of the material.

You can work up to 50 pages. Start with 10 pages per night. After a week, add 10 pages. Repeat until you hit a number of pages you find worthwhile.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by sotojuan on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @05:55PM (#12176800)
Easy: Spend less time on HN/Twitter/Facebook/etc :-)
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by jseliger on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:49PM (#12175969)
The Magicians is a lovely book; I actually interviewed Grossman when the first one came out, in 2010: https://jakeseliger.com/2010/10/14/an-interview-with-lev-gro.... If you like it, try Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy too.

Leviathan Wakes disappoints: its plot and political economy are interesting but on a sentence-by-sentence level one wishes for more. If you haven't read it yet try Peter Watts, Blindsight.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by matthewtoast on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:13PM (#12176147)
I've gotta throw in a counterpoint about Leviathan Wakes. The Expanse is my favorite new space opera series; it's pure entertainment that makes for great summer poolside reading. If they publish 100 of them, I will read them.

That said, Leviathan Wakes is perhaps the weakest in the series. The noir/detective plot feels like a crutch. The authors borrowed some tropes before they found their voice. If you need literary prose - or prefer your sci-fi philosophical - then these maybe aren't for you.

But if you like damn good fun, and like plot-driven novels that hinge on the stubbornness of physics and economics, give The Expanse a chance.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by primodemus on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @05:01PM (#12176489)
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by taserian on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:58PM (#12176476)
I enjoyed The Magicians, but I found the two follow-ups lacking, when I expected them to keep up with the original.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by facepalm on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:39PM (#12176340)
Pullman is another one for the Christians, I suppose. If you are not religious, it seems unlikely to me that you would enjoy it (I didn't).
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by e12e on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @08:59PM (#12177680)
I'm an atheist and a big fan of both His Dark Materials and Narnia. Why wouldn't an atheist enjoy religious art? That's millennia of human creativity you're throwing on the fire.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by facepalm on Thursday July 28, 2016 @12:52AM (#12178380)
I enjoyed Narnia, but found His Dark Materials unbearable. It's been a while since I read it, though, don't remember the specifics. The soul mate with animal spirit thing just seemed Christian to me - stunned that it is supposed to be an atheist book, as another comment mentioned.

So I am not opposed to religious art. A bit tired of the "chosen one" theme in fantasy, but other than that, I tend to just view it as an expression of human yearning.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by e12e on Thursday July 28, 2016 @03:16AM (#12178828)
One thing is what the author puts into things, another thing is what the reader gets out of it. Animism and spirits is hardly limited to Christian mythology. I personally thought it was kind of clever and vivid imagery, especially with the mad scientists fuelling their doomsday device by ripping children apart from their souls, much like splitting the atom lead to horrific suffering when used as an engine of war - or much as certain dogma in education seems engineered to squash the imagination of children.

At any rate, I can absolutely accept that the work didn't appeal to some as much as it did me - but I just thought it strange that the reason should be that it was somehow particularly "Christian". Strikes me a bit like ignoring the parallels with the story of Christ and eg. that of Horus/Osiris. I'm not convinced people didn't come up with the stories about virgin birth, magical manipulation of water and so forth without having to hear another version first: the point is more that if you have a character that's born from a virgin, that doesn't have to mean you're trying to invoke an image of Jesus Christ. Although, often, it does mean just that.

Then there's the issue of universality of myth (sacrifice, kindness etc) - and from a certain set of religious views one could probably argue that any "atheist" myth is simply anther way for a deity/deities to make his/her/their will known...

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by DanBC on Thursday July 28, 2016 @04:42AM (#12179095)
It's pretty clearly atheist, and has been criticised by religious groups for that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Pullman#Perspective_on_...

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by facepalm on Thursday July 28, 2016 @06:01AM (#12179343)
Maybe I didn't read far enough, didn't think a book about souls could be atheist.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by DanBC on Thursday July 28, 2016 @11:05AM (#12180641)
The book includes religion. That's what world building is. That doesn't mean it's pro religion, anymore than it's pro armour-clad polar bears.

In the books the church is pretty oppressive.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by facepalm on Thursday July 28, 2016 @12:09PM (#12181114)
But it's different things to include religion, which is just stuff people believe, and actual souls. Religion is just a belief. Churches are just companies.

But I admit, in that sense any fantasy novel containing magic might be "religious" in some sense. The soul thing just seemed rather Christian to me.

I am an atheist and not that well versed in Christianity, though.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by sn9 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @07:06PM (#12177162)
Pullman wrote His Dark Materials as the atheist counter to C.S. Lewis' Chronicles of Narnia IIRC.

You might want to reread them if you came away thinking they were pro-Christian.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by facepalm on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @11:57PM (#12178226)
It's been a long time since I read it, but wasn't it all kind of about souls and soul mates and stuff like that?
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by Fraterkes on Thursday July 28, 2016 @05:11AM (#12179186)
Yeah, and an important plotpoint is that a church is trying to get rid of the soulmates because they are part of the original sin. So you should prob turn you view around 180 degrees.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by facepalm on Thursday July 28, 2016 @05:50AM (#12179307)
Then probably I didn't get that far while reading, sorry about that.

Still not sure how it can be atheist if it is all about souls, though.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by sn9 on Thursday July 28, 2016 @05:12PM (#12183207)
It was profoundly humanist scifi/fantasy.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by pdq on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @02:47PM (#12175504)
I'm in the middle of Chaos Monkeys, and am enjoying the author's excellent prose, while walking through the sausage factory of startups. There's also some interesting YC insights, as the author's startup went through it.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Chaos-Monkeys-Obscene-Fortune-Failure...

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by natdempk on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:14PM (#12175713)
I just read this recently, and the gonzo account of working in tech was very well done. I just wish the writing wasn't so boorish in parts. It seemed like the author felt the need to exaggerate some of the already ridiculous at face value tales of working in ad-tech and at Facebook. All of the crude metaphors and comparisons throughout the book didn't add much for me, but his story was interesting enough to keep me going.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by elevensies on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:00PM (#12175611)
I finished this recently and liked it as well. My "policy" is to read every technology company related memoir or corporate history that I can get my hands on, and I found this one more interesting than most as a narrative.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by billionsfan1 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:08PM (#12176109)
I also like these. just read the facebook and twitter ones. which did you also find and like?
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by elevensies on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @07:26PM (#12177273)
posted a list on sibling comment
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by guynamedloren on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @05:03PM (#12176502)
Neat "policy". Also curious about your favorites. Any you can recommend?
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by elevensies on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @07:22PM (#12177257)
Sure, here are my top picks:

Interesting Story

- Soul of a new machine

- Hackers by Levy

- Masters of Doom

Lots of interesting information, not so compelling as a narrative:

- Open: How Compaq Ended IBM's PC Domination

- Elon Musk (bio by Vance)

- Softwar (Larry Ellison)

Related to tech, but not really tech:

- The Decipherment of Linear B

- Oglivy on Adviertising

- The Great Beanie Baby Bubble

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by qwertyuiop924 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:34PM (#12176298)
I reread Cryptonomicon (the last Stephenson book to really draw me in enough to make me read it, although he frontloads a lot of the complexity, so maybe if I push through the opening to Anathem just one more time...)

For those of you who read RP1 already, I would reccomend You, by Austin Grossman, which takes the concept of a treasure hunt through computing and gaming history in a radically different direction, one that is more realistic (although it still takes some bizare leaps of logic and outright wrong turns), as you follow a new developer at a games company that his friends started many years ago, desparately trying to track down an ancient, game-breaking bug, before the company closes its doors for good.

It's flawed, but has a stronger character focus than RP1, and I think I liked it better, on the whole.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by overcast on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:41PM (#12176357)
I have a first printing hardcover Cryptonomicon sitting in front of me, that I haven't cracked opened yet. Bought it prior to reading Snowcrash, which I thought was the most overrated drivel that I've ever come across. Awesome beginning, that turned into ancient religious programming nonsense. I'm afraid to even begin that monster, if the writing is anything like that.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by qwertyuiop924 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @05:36PM (#12176701)
Stephenson REALLY likes showing his work. He also likes to use myth as metaphor. So Cryptonomicon is full of Crypto, WWII and modern, philosophy, math, and computing, and involves a startup, treasure hunts, at least one conspiracy, a metaphor involving greek mythology, reflections on long-term relationships, sorta-kinda mocking liberal arts academia, and a full on erotic novella about furniture and stocking fetishes, which sets up a major plotpoint (yes, really).

If these things don't sound appeling to you, steer clear. You may just not like Stephenson. But if you're intrigued by some of the things I mentioned, give it a go.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by sampo on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @08:36PM (#12177604)
> I have a first printing hardcover Cryptonomicon sitting in front of me, that I haven't cracked opened yet.

Cryptonomicon is very easy to start, you meet Alan Turing right in the first pages, and things progress nicely. The book is long, and jumps randomly between several different storylines, so finishing it is another matter. But it is easy to start.

And because it is essentially just a collection of stories, finishing it is not even really important. Just keep on reading as long as you enjoy.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by Ar-Curunir on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @05:47PM (#12176763)
Anathem is slow to start (very), but the end is absolutely mind blowing. It was my first ever Stephenson book. Not a decision I regret at all.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by bcgraham on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @10:49PM (#12178031)
Stick with Anathem. Bang for buck, it's a really economical opening. The book is fabulous.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by zardo on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:59PM (#12176478)
Anathem gets pretty amazing, just hold out to chapter 10,000.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by koolba on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @05:29PM (#12176645)
At some point this summer I highly suggest reading the nutrition facts on back of a cold beer, preferably on the beach. Not everything you read needs to be about technology development or enlightenment.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by Animats on Thursday July 28, 2016 @03:07AM (#12178799)
I notice that "The Intelligent Investor", by Benj. Graham, is on the list. This is the light version of his "Securities Analysis", which is all about value investing. It's how Warren Buffett did it in the early years.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by fiftyacorn on Thursday July 28, 2016 @03:49AM (#12178925)
Ive read it a few times and keep getting to the chapter in the annotated version where the author of the annotations basically says that unless you really want to put the work in stick with index trackers. I then reread bogleheads, and WB's recent shareholder letters and decided i'll stick with that.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by compumike on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @01:56PM (#12175085)
Just finished "Ready Player One" yesterday. Fun read! Would recommend.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by haydenlee on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @02:06PM (#12175178)
Spielberg is directing an RP1 movie, slated to come out in 2018! Hopefully they knock it out of the park and its a great inspiration for the VR industry.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by angersock on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:48PM (#12175953)
It'll just be another threadbare cultural touchstone to kowtow at in order to win mainstream "geek cred".

Snowcrash is what shaped the future.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by Animats on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @05:09PM (#12176539)
A Snow Crash movie was in the works at one time, but didn't happen. Maybe if VR catches on this time...

Recommended: "The Shockwave Rider", by John Brunner. Published in 1975, and way, way ahead of its time.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by wyldfire on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @02:01PM (#12175129)
It was great, agreed. I just started "Armada" and so far it seems like much of the same spirit of this novel.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by Falcon9 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:01PM (#12175623)
Too much so, for me, but it came with a nice soundtrack/playlist.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by walkingolof on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @05:09PM (#12176534)
Or get a break from work and this world and read some Scottish SciFi !!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_series

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by Everlag on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @06:42PM (#12177029)
I read up to Excession and stopped. At the pace I was going, there was going to be a year of Culture, then nothing new from it forever. It's such a shame that Banks died but damn, did he leave a mark.

If anyone is in the same position, I can recommend the Second Apocalypse series[1]. I find it feels like you put Tolkien and Banks in a pot, inverted some tropes, and let simmer.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Scott_Bakker#The_Second_Apo...

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by Jun8 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:19PM (#12175754)
+1 for The Beginning of Infinity, awesome book that really gets to the heart of scientific thinking and process.

On a different note, I am just finishing up Snowflower and the Secret Fan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Flower_and_the_Secret_Fan). Not only a well written story about the life story of two Chinese women around the turn of the century but also taught me some interesting customs about women's lives in pre-Revolution China, e.g. being lao tongs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laotong).

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by discreteevent on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @05:55PM (#12176798)
The beginning of infinity is a good book by I actually found his previous book "The fabric of reality" better, in terms of what scientific thinking really is. Specifically, how important criticism is in weeding out theories that are likely to be inviable before you even start to experiment.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by goodgoblin on Thursday July 28, 2016 @08:36AM (#12179778)
I just finished reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quantum_Thief, and it was amazing. Best sci-fi book I've read since Neuromancer.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by erelde on Thursday July 28, 2016 @08:49AM (#12179826)
I read the three books last year, it really was good, left some strong impressions.

IMO: the beginning introduces some hard to get concepts, expecting the reader to stop and really try to understand.

PS/EDIT: I think Ars Technica is going to do or has done an interview of the author yesterday or today.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by BatFastard on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:15PM (#12176159)
My favorite of the summer is http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6665847-daemon and the second half of the book http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8488830-freedom Great series, very timely since its about Augmented Reality, AI, games, ... "I accept the Deamon"
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by Vexs on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:00PM (#12175615)
I finished the expanse series in about a week- it's a fantastic sci-fi, but it's really not for people who go in expecting action. Most of the series is space politics, as well as an annoying tendency to just vaguely hint at alien stuff, flip flopping between space magic and dumb ol' block.

That being said, I really liked it, and I would recommend it. Also, if they're not your thing, the first book is the only one with zombies.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by Animats on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @05:15PM (#12176564)
"End of Cycle"[1] is mentioned. Key points:

- The easy hits in social and mobile have been done.

- Investors are looking for the Next Big Thing, and to some extent throwing money at what's probably the wrong stuff.

- Startups which involve making real physical stuff are a lot more complicated as businesses than pure compute-based startups.

[1] http://blog.eladgil.com/2016/07/end-of-cycle.html

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by ztravis on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @02:33PM (#12175388)
I'm consistently surprised to hear people saying positive things about "Ready Player One" - to me it was one of the most hackneyed and silly books I've read in a long time. My review at the time of reading (originally for private consumption only):

Terrible modern sci-fi about easter egg MMO quest for game creator’s fortune. Childish plot/dialog, cliches everywhere (e.g. ‘L337 Hax0r Warezhouse’), absolutely atrocious, really simple puzzles. The only positive thing I can say about it is that I didn’t give up on it immediately - although I was tempted, the main plot line was at least interesting enough that I wanted to hear the end. Unfortunately the ending itself was disappointing - the final puzzle was just a rehash of the first two. My main takeaways were: I hope the ‘MMO-scifi’ subgenre is finally dead, I should wait at least 10 years for more recent sci-fi to go through quality assurance, and that it seems like based on this, anyone with a half-baked idea and enough pop-culture-nerd knowledge to sprinkle throughout 300 or so pages should be able to write a best-seller. Meanwhile, the politics/worldview it espouses is basically boingboing distilled - big corporation bad, internet is free, knowledge is free, american culture and society is dead, cyber-elite should run world, pop-media is simultaneously in control of world and source of inspiration and true creativity.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by patio11 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:33PM (#12175844)
It's an interesting contrast with The Martian: both are geek porn, but one says "Geeks are awesome because they might have a high-school level understanding of science which would be improbably useful if they were stranded alone on Mars." and the other says "Geeks are awesome because knowing the script to War Games demonstrates moral fiber." and believes it. (The character who established the challenges believing this is not problematic. The book believing it, heart and soul, is a knock on the book.)
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by qwertyuiop924 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:24PM (#12176222)
Eh, I still think The Martian was a good book. It had the plot and humor to make its concept stand up. And the very fact that some people have made complaints about the accuracy of its science is a testament to the fact that it did take its science seriously to some degree: Most fiction doesn't show enough work for you to question it.

RP1 was okay. Cline's next book, Armada, was similar, and that's where it really starts to fall apart.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by breck on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:44PM (#12175924)
I thought it was entertaining but also wouldn't recommend it unless I think someone would enjoy the nostalgic bits.

One newer sci-fi trilogy I would highly recommend is The Three Body Problem by Liu Cixin. The writing is a bit different but if you get over that the ideas are really novel and the story is epic and gripping. The Dark Forest (Book 2), in particular is one of my favorite sci-fi stories of all time. My Chinese coworkers all raved about the triology and for good reason. Note: the first and second book are out but the third's English translation is coming this fall (I am eagerly awaiting it).

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by frisco on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @02:38PM (#12175436)
I agree - I really wanted to like Ready Player One but the writing was just so difficult to enjoy. In the same way I remember thinking "wow this is really well written" when reading George R R Martin, I spent most of RP1 thinking, "I will get through this for the concept but this is not a good book."

Instead of Ready Player One, I recommend the Nexus trilogy by Ramez Naam. The action is a little overdone, but it's so much better than Ready Player One and it does a really good job of exploring very interesting technology questions!

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by ironchief on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @07:48PM (#12177387)
Have to agree. RP1 has taken the ideas of VR past and synthesized them in a fun young adult novel.

Nexus paves a highway over our present into the biotech future. It makes you think about how free individuals harness technology and the culture/society/gov they live in.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by mwiedmann on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:57PM (#12176026)
My family and I thought the book was fantastic, but one thing I wanted to say is how cool the the author is (Ernest Cline). We went to a book signing at Flyleaf Books in Chapel Hill, NC. Ernest spoke and gave a presentation for about 90 mins. He was very funny, had a bunch of great stories, and really engaged with all the kids as well. Warren Robinett (the creator of Adventure on the Atari 2600) is friends with Ernest and lives in Chapel Hill so he came to the event as well and spoke a bit. Another great guy. I was just totally blown away by how engaging Ernest was and how much extra effort he put in with the kids in the audience. You really get the feeling that he is super excited about whatever he is doing. His enthusiasm was contagious. Anyway, thought I'd share this. It does make me really root for the guy now.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by wyldfire on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @02:47PM (#12175508)
I really enjoyed it myself. It was a big nostalgia fest. I wonder -- are you significantly older or younger than the audience that would've spent time enjoying these games?
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by MichaelGG on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:02PM (#12175630)
I spent time on some of it. I'm only 35 so perhaps a bit young; or maybe I didn't spend enough time in arcades.

I found it heavy handed. Just dumping tons of references all over the place. Felt like he printed out a list of games and stuff and just made sure to check each one off.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by GFK_of_xmaspast on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:41PM (#12175908)
I'm right dead center in the middle of the targeted age group and was extremely into arcade games at the time, but everything I've seen about "Ready Player One" makes it sound pandering at best.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by qwertyuiop924 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:25PM (#12176224)
15, but I loved it.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by emmett on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:28PM (#12175807)
I love scifi, and but I totally agree. I thought Ready Player One was terrible. My only explanation is that it's a huge nostalgia rush for a certain set of Gen X readers.

I really liked Mr Penumbra's 24 Hour Book Store, but I think for the same sort of nostalgic reasons as people love Ready Player One.

To each their own though...

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by GradysGhost on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:03PM (#12175632)
Not to mention the love interest relationship, which is basically, "Love interest doesn't trust protagonist until the story reaches a climax and all of a sudden she's protag's girlfriend despite not having any new reason to be that."
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by bbctol on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:03PM (#12176077)
Even worse, "love interest doesn't think she's pretty but only the protagonist is a nice enough guy to see past that." The whole book was a bunch of wish-fulfillment fantasies, but I found the romance the creepiest.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by facepalm on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:38PM (#12176328)
Only the protagonist met her in real life. I think you read too much into that.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by rmc on Thursday July 28, 2016 @04:32AM (#12179056)
Have you heard of the Arthur C. Clarke Award? It's an annual written sci-fi award from the UK, but it's a judged award. People who know lots of sci-fi read all the UK published SF in a year, and pick a winner. You can't win by just appealing to pop geek voting base.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C._Clarke_Award

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by johnwheeler on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:14PM (#12175715)
Yeah - the part where he walks in the room and starts playing Joust against the boss was where I gave up.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by elevensies on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:01PM (#12175617)
I found an alternate link to Hadrian's Wall that includes a kindle version (thus a preview sample) etc: https://www.amazon.com/Hadrians-Penguin-History-Brian-Dobson...

[edit: although I see it has a lot of illustrations so kindle format maybe non-ideal.]

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by cmollis on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @06:50PM (#12177067)
I read tegmark' about a year ago. Very insightful for a cosmology noob like me (e.g. Lots of stuff on inflation theory, origin of Carbon (i didn't know),etc.). Clearly believes in the 'many worlds' hypothesis which may be hard to take, but is nonetheless an insightful view on how weird reality actually is from one of mit's great scientists.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by anateus on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @05:46PM (#12176756)
The title implies this is a list of books that YC somehow institutionally recommends (like their "how to pitch" articles). When I first looked at it that way it seemed strangely uneven in terms of quality. When I realized this was actually "some personal recommendations from our staff and partners" it became a perfectly reasonable collection :)
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by ismdubey on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @07:34PM (#12177314)
Has anyone read 'Dream Machine' by Mitchel Waldrop.

https://www.amazon.com/Dream-Machine-Licklider-Revolution-Co...

I have heard Patrick collision talking about this book quite a few times.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by wfoweoi on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @01:49PM (#12174986)
> While my experience doesn’t always jibe with the ideas in the book

Care to elaborate, @emmett?

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by emmett on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:30PM (#12175821)
I don't think my anecdotal evidence is particularly stronger than the author's. My point is just to take it all with the knowledge that what worked at google in an experiment there won't necessarily work for you in the same way. The world is complex and these things are contingent.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by pdar4123 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:33PM (#12176288)
Glad to see so many great female authors represented ... Oh... Wait
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by facepalm on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:42PM (#12176365)
If you have good books to recommend, do.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by whyleyc on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @05:52PM (#12176785)
Not the OP but I'd highly recommend "Zoo City" by Lauren Beukes. Brilliantly written, gritty, bonkers-but pulsating plot set in a grimy version of Johannesburg. Loved it.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by DavidWanjiru on Friday July 29, 2016 @05:50AM (#12185802)
Right now, Amazon tells me that customers who viewed a-given-book-on-this-list also viewed other books on this list. Is that the effect of being on this list? Interesting.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by adamnemecek on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @02:33PM (#12175390)
You guys should include more tech books too.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by togasystems on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:40PM (#12175899)
Any recommendations on investment books?
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by louprado on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @09:10PM (#12177711)
I am sure you noticed Grahams's The Intelligent Investor on the list.

Warren Buffet often cites it as his favorite book on investing stating, "picking up that book was one of the luckiest moments of my life”. I recall he decided to read it at least 10 times before making another trade, but I can't find the source. Human nature doesn't change, so that book is still relevant.

Otherwise the "Warren Buffet Way" is a modern take on the same theories.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by matt4077 on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:57PM (#12176023)
The Black Swan
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by neves on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @06:10PM (#12176880)
Great! Bill Gates started to be a tech mogul that recommends books. Now it looks like everyone that want to become a tech mogul must share reading recommendations. I liked this trend.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by beambot on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @06:16PM (#12176907)
Pretty sure reading recommendations pre-date Bill Gates...
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by jolux on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:28PM (#12175806)
I'm getting a 404?

edit: has been fixed.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by spoinkaroo on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:34PM (#12175846)
ditto.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by justinv on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:32PM (#12175836)
me too
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by craigcannon on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:18PM (#12176181)
Fixed. Sorry about that!
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Re:YC’s Summer Reading by cperciva on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @02:16PM (#12175243)
And every single one of the authors speaks English! Talk about unbalanced!

Seriously, they're just recommending a bunch of books which they think are interesting, insightful, and in many cases relevant to what they do. There is a large bias in the publishing industry in terms of what subjects men and women write about; YC has their hands full trying to bring more gender equity to technology without trying to fix the publishing industry.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by uola on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:46PM (#12175938)
"And every single one of the authors speaks English! Talk about unbalanced!"

You're right though. Summer reading especially, since you normally have less workload, is a great time to explore other cultures. Most of these books seem to be of the popular kind.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by Animats on Thursday July 28, 2016 @03:11AM (#12178809)
Read Capital in the Twenty-First Century, by Pikkety. That was originally in French. Anybody associated with money should read this.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by r_smart on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @02:28PM (#12175348)
I feel like your comment would be more useful if you were to raise your concern (which you did) and suggest some books written by women you think warrant inclusion on the list. Otherwise you're just complaining.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by amrangaye on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:21PM (#12175766)
The Imperial Radch books are a great read as well. They take place in a future in which intelligent space ships are able to control thousands of human bodies connected (enslaved?) to them, experiencing everything these bodies experience at once - the action is great, but it also explores the philosophical implications of this, in a society in which a supreme leader thousands of years old rules over all these ships and all the planets where humans live. There is absolutely no privacy - space stations attached to each colony know everything any of their inhabitants are doing, feeling, even thinking.

This summary doesn't really do it justice - the first book in the series is at https://www.amazon.com/Ancillary-Justice-Imperial-Radch-Leck.... Oh and written by a woman too ;)

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by rmc on Thursday July 28, 2016 @04:50AM (#12179121)
> to control thousands of human bodies connected (enslaved?) to them

I think it's quite clear that the human bodies have their original personalities wiped and become nothing more than tools of the original AI.

And the supreme leader is a form of distributed, multi-brained intelligence

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by mindcrime on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @02:37PM (#12175428)
Here's a recommendation for some female authored sci-fi at least:

The "Newsflesh Trilogy" by Mira Grant (Seanan McGuire). I'm not usually into zombie fiction, but this was a great series. Not your typical zombie fare... more like a political / conspiracy thriller where zombies are just part of the trappings of the story, not the focus of the story. Hard to explain, but worth reading.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by Finbarr on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:47PM (#12175948)
I really enjoyed "Children of God" and the sequel "The Sparrow" by Mary Doria Russell. Great sci-fi.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by facepalm on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:32PM (#12176278)
As a counterpoint, I really disliked The Sparrow. I guess it could be interesting if you are religious, but even then: why do you have to experience horrible things on an alien planet to start wondering why god let's such things happen - aren't there enough horrible things happening on earth? Really didn't see the point... (Don't know Children of God).
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by prawn on Thursday July 28, 2016 @01:10AM (#12178426)
Haven't read her stuff myself, but a friend was enthusiastically recommending Margaret Atwood the other day:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Atwood#Novels

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by chiph on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @06:29PM (#12176955)
Octavia E. Butler was an amazing author, and it never failed for her books to be way-out-there. Sometimes creepily so:

https://www.amazon.com/Dawn-Xenogenesis-Trilogy-Book-1-ebook...

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by schlupp on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @03:12PM (#12175689)
I don't work for free, but I'd be happy to consult for YC on coming up with a more diverse reading list
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by mrweasel on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:55PM (#12176455)
Does anyone seriously believe that there where books that didn't make the list because of the gender of the author?

It's "Alan Kay's reading list" all over again. No one discard books based on the sex of the author, perhaps except extreme feminists. Books are picked because of their content.

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Re:YC’s Summer Reading by sctb on Thursday July 28, 2016 @02:55PM (#12182312)
We've banned this account for serial trolling.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by facepalm on Thursday July 28, 2016 @12:08AM (#12178257)
There are two possibilities:

1. Women write the same books as men. Then it doesn't matter what gender the author of a book has (from the perspective of the reader who only cares about a quality reading experience)

2. Women write different books than men. Then it is possible that certain groups of people simply like books written by men better than books written by women. It could be simply a matter of subject. For example, fewer women work in tech, so maybe also fewer women write about tech. A crowd overly interested in tech would end up reading fewer female authors.

Personally I find it very hard to find worthwhile books at all. So if you could recommend some female authors that are great, I would give them a try. Atm I can think of two living female novel writers that are on my "read everything by that author" list, Fred Vargas and JK Rowling. If you can provide me with another name for that list, I would be grateful.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by miraj on Thursday July 28, 2016 @09:59PM (#12184603)
Here are some recent reads by female authors that I enjoyed:

- "All the Birds in the Sky"(1) by Charlie Jane Anders

- "The Art of Asking; or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Let People Help"(2) by Amanda Palmer

- Graphic novels by Rutu Modan(3)

- "The Kindness of Enemies"(4) by Leila Aboulela

1. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25372801-all-the-birds-i...

2. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20980987-the-art-of-aski...

3. https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/295672.Rutu_Modan

4. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25785299-the-kindness-of...

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by facepalm on Friday July 29, 2016 @07:16AM (#12186057)
Thank you, I will check them out.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by DanBC on Thursday July 28, 2016 @05:57PM (#12183510)
> Fred Vargas

It's great to see Fred Vargas get some recognition on HN.

I'd recommend anything by Lauren Beukes, Susan Hill, or Caitlin Horrocks. (These aren't much like Fred Vargas.)

Caitlin Horrocks' "This is not your city" collection of shorts is, I think, good.

Susan Hill has written some great police procedurals, among others. "The Various Haunts of Men" is a great book.

http://laurenbeukes.com/

http://www.caitlinhorrocks.com/

http://www.susanhill.org.uk/various-haunts-men

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by facepalm on Friday July 29, 2016 @07:17AM (#12186064)
Thank you for the suggestions, will investigate. And I don't know any author quite like Fred Vargas :-)
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by SeanBoocock on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @08:48PM (#12177646)
For those interested in historical topics, I would recommend Mary Beard's recent "SPQR: A History of Ancient Rome" (https://www.amazon.com/SPQR-History-Ancient-Mary-Beard/dp/08...) and Barbara Tuchman's classic on WWI, "The Guns of August" (https://www.amazon.com/Guns-August-Pulitzer-Prize-Winning-Ou...).
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by facepalm on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @04:34PM (#12176295)
If you can recommend more female authors on par with, say, JK Rowling, Fred Vargas, Neil Gaiman or Patrick Rothfuss, I'd be happy to read them. It's hard enough to find good books, worrying about the author's gender is very pointless. Especially since I am not interested in women's issues, which nobody should be obliged to be.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by bolasanibk on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @06:57PM (#12177099)
I would highly recommend Lois McMaster Bujold. She is not hard sci fi though and the sci fi elements mostly act as a setting for the story.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by Animats on Thursday July 28, 2016 @03:16AM (#12178825)
Her Vorkosigan series is hard sci fi.

It helps to read those in order. She makes references to events five books back. You don't have to recognize them, but it helps.

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by facepalm on Thursday July 28, 2016 @12:09AM (#12178262)
Thanks, I will give her books a try!
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by ilamparithi on Thursday July 28, 2016 @09:12AM (#12179947)
Seconded. Her books are wonderful.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by moultano on Thursday July 28, 2016 @12:20AM (#12178299)
If you haven't read any Ursula K. LeGuin yet, she is amazing. Start with either The Left Hand of Darkness, The Dispossessed, or The Wizard of Earthsea, depending on whether you are most interested in gender, societal systems, or wizards, respectively.
Re:YC’s Summer Reading by facepalm on Thursday July 28, 2016 @12:10PM (#12181123)
Thanks - I've read and liked Earthsea, but it might be time for another one.
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Re:YC’s Summer Reading by jnicholasp on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @11:56PM (#12178221)
There are thousands of problems in the world, and you, like all of us, are almost certainly doing absolutely nothing about the vast majority of them, even if you've picked a few that you do care about and are actively engaged in. Does it make sense for someone who has picked a different set of things than you to care about, to denounce you as an ignorant douchebag because you aren't fighting their fight?

If not, does it really make sense for you to call others, at the drop of a hat, ignorant douchebags for not fighting the battle that you've chosen to fight?

Re:YC’s Summer Reading by facepalm on Thursday July 28, 2016 @12:53AM (#12178382)
So do you have any good books to recommend, or not?