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Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by gregschlom on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @03:34PM (#11441251)
Am I the only one to find that using only the 1,000 most common words actually makes thing harder to understand? The writer ends up having to use convoluted paraphrases to refer to things where a precise, well defined and well understood word exists but it's not part of the top 1,000.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by AndrewUnmuted on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @03:54PM (#11441462)
The technique is working quite well for Donald Trump: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/09/15/ho...

> Some of his answers last only a few seconds, some are slightly longer, but almost all consist of simple sentences, grammatically and conceptually, and most of them withhold their most important word or phrase until the very end. Trump’s sentences end with a pop, and he seems to know instinctively where to put the emphasis in each one.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by manachar on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @05:56PM (#11442490)
I'm with Orwell on this one. Whether by design or "happy" accident, Trump exemplifies the trend for politicians to be vague. Or as he puts it, speaking like this "is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_and_the_English_Langu...

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by escherize on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @09:21PM (#11443909)
Is this the syllogism?

    Trump uses political language
    political language makes murder respectable
    ------
    Trump makes murder respectable
Why focus on Trump then? Care to name a politician who's not using political language? That seems to be an oxymoron.

Trump was against the Iraq War, probably the biggest killing event of the last xxx years.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by manachar on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @09:50PM (#11444047)
No, this wasn't intended to slyly indicate that "Trump makes murder respectable". Were I to make that bold accusation I'd want to debate that on another forum than HN and base it on things Trump has actually stated.

Regardless of politics, Trump has a very idiosyncratic approach to speaking. His mastery of this approach reminds me strongly of the Orwell essay linked above.

I've no desire to debate Trumps policies on HN, but find his approach to speaking quite interesting.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by escherize on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @10:01PM (#11444104)
Thanks for clarifying. I do agree that his speaking style is different and interesting.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by SixSigma on Thursday April 07, 2016 @01:30AM (#11444928)
“I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters,” Trump said.

So in a way, yes, he has made murder respectable. The previous two POTUS' made murder respectable by using remote controlled flying bombs.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by consum3dbyfire on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @04:03PM (#11441542)
Looks like the creator picked up on that, as well:

https://medium.com/@mortenjust/i-doomed-mankind-with-a-free-...

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by Semiapies on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @08:29PM (#11443618)
I'd say anyone who says he's made a language/special vocabulary/style guide/editor that "makes it hard to write bullshit" really hasn't picked up on that.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by mrrrgn on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @05:32PM (#11442313)
I hope that they normalized the data to account for the number of words spoken during each debate, rally, etc... This is important because of Zipf's law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zipf%27s_law

If they didn't, the findings are invalid.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by sametmax on Thursday April 07, 2016 @11:30AM (#11448026)
It's because he doesn't aim to actually solve problems or provide meaningful answers. Simples words are good if your goal is to be rally a large number of people. But it's not practical if you want to build a car, honestly debate about social issues or describe how un cell works.

What a lot of smart people don't understand though, is that in politics, not trying to solve problems, but trying to appeal to people is the goal. And you don't use the same tools at all for that.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by kbenson on Thursday April 07, 2016 @12:09PM (#11448380)
I think it works well for high level overviews. This may be in part because it prevents the use domain knowledge and terminology, which is natural for an expert who might be writing the overview, but hard for a layman to grasp. Put more simply, I think it's useful to describe something generally, but not when trying to describe in detail or specify attributes exactly.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by sametmax on Thursday April 07, 2016 @02:02PM (#11449236)
Exactly.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by okyup on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @09:45PM (#11444018)
Trump bashing is lame. Trump has used words in his speeches that you probably couldn't define. I heard him casually use PROGNOSTICATION a couple weeks ago. He's not dumb.

It's actually a sign of intelligence to use the simplest language necessary when expressing yourself to a broad audience (many with low education). People who use unnecessarily large words are usually doing it to try to sound smarter than they are and to build up their own egos.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by AndrewUnmuted on Thursday April 07, 2016 @10:03AM (#11447309)
My intent is not to bash Trump. I actually think that he's one of the more talented people running for POTUS. This is not to say that I support him or his views (I am voting for Gary Johnson [1]), but I respect his ability to maneuver the media to suit his aims. It is my contention that his strong aptitude with using appropriate/effective language is one of the main reasons he can wield the media around so effortlessly.

[1] https://garyjohnson2016.com/

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by wernercd on Thursday April 07, 2016 @11:11AM (#11447848)
So... your throwing your vote away? The two party system is deeply flawed, but when has a third party candidate done anything but taken votes away from reasonable candidates?
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by AndrewUnmuted on Thursday April 07, 2016 @03:33PM (#11449970)
If any third party candidate is going to do this in 2016, it is going to be Donald Trump after he and his supporters walk out of the GOP convention.

I'm an independent that lives in NYC. My vote is always a throw away vote.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by relaytheurgency on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @11:19PM (#11444454)
Ah yes, prognostication. Such a rare word that it's only uttered multiple times in one of the most popular Bill Murray movies made which is guaranteed to be on TV at least once a year. Seriously, that's not even nearly one of the best words.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by okyup on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @11:46PM (#11444564)
Maybe you should start the Thesaurus Party and run in the next election. I'm sure voters would swiftly capitulate to the erudition of your insuperable sesquipedalian fulminations. None of those pathetic made-for-TV words that Trump has bedizened his 8th grader lexicon with.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by rorykoehler on Thursday April 07, 2016 @12:21AM (#11444697)
At what point does a word's existence become invalid? Searching for 'sesquipedalian' brings up pages upon pages of dictionary links on Google. Clearly this word exists only in dictionaries and is so rarely used as to be almost imaginary by those who use it. To put it another way, if it wasn't in the dictionary would it exist at all?
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by Spivak on Thursday April 07, 2016 @01:10AM (#11444868)
Yes because an English dictionary is a historical record of how English speakers and writers use words and phrases making no judgement as to their 'correctness' or whether an audience of current English speakers would understand you were you to use them.

The purpose of a dictionary is to aid you in understanding the meaning any English speaker or writer is trying to convey independent of the time period or location, not to dictate valid and invalid words. Some words might be dropped from abridged dictionaries when they fall out of popularity but in 'The English Dictionary' (which doesn't really exist but is approximated by dictionaries like Oxford's) words are added but never removed.

This is different, than say, the mission of L'Académie française which is to act as a language regulator and maintain the official vocabulary and grammar of French.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by paublyrne on Thursday April 07, 2016 @01:10AM (#11444872)
That's a good point. The makers of dictionaries have always sought catalogue language rather than create it. That's what Samuel Johnson set out to do. Without dictionaries we certainly would have lost a lot of words from our collective knowledge along the way.

Sesquiedalian seems to have been popping up since the 1600s.

http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/176752?redirectedFrom=sesquipe...

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by Spooky23 on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @10:25PM (#11444225)
It's hardly unique to Trump. Politicians have labored to eloquently say as little as possible since the Assyrians.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by thaumasiotes on Thursday April 07, 2016 @02:14PM (#11449329)
Assyrian kings had a lot to say. You could expect to hear about their illustrious ancestors going several generations back, and their many military and domestic accomplishments (like irrigation projects).

Not so much about what they wanted to do in the future. They didn't stand for elections.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by gertef on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @04:40PM (#11441907)
Trump does not limit himself to anything like the most common 1000 worrds
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by phaedryx on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @05:22PM (#11442231)
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by Munksgaard on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @05:47PM (#11442417)
He has the best words!
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by frandroid on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @06:11PM (#11442585)
If elected, we'll get so many great words, we'll get bored of words!
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by lubos on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @07:07PM (#11443068)
Not just great words... terrific words.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by Filligree on Thursday April 07, 2016 @07:52AM (#11446490)
Terrifying words.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by j_koreth on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @06:52PM (#11442943)
This also ignores also that most Democratic presidents spoke on the same level
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by m741 on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @08:18PM (#11443551)
The article literally has a chart showing that the current candidates are all speaking at a higher level, and that the remaining candidates, Democrat and Republican, are speaking at 8th 9th, and 10th grade levels. Of the current cohort of candidates only Kasich is near Trump.

If you're talking about presidents (which is unfair, the type of speech you give as president vs candidate, and debates are different), it's clear that although the trend was downward, for the past few presidents the average level was about 8th grade:

http://www.vocativ.com/interactive/usa/us-politics/president...

Trump speaks at a 4th grade level. Probably intentionally.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by eru on Friday April 08, 2016 @07:21AM (#11453867)
Has anyone ever calibrated these levels with actual n-th graders?
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by briandear on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @06:15PM (#11442603)
Probably just the top 25.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by matwood on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @04:19PM (#11441698)
Sounds tremendous!
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by gnaritas on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @07:38PM (#11443288)
He speaks like a child, it works because his base is stupid and they relate. It's not a skill, he just isn't that bright.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by jshevek on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @11:43PM (#11444544)
If Trump honestly believed everything that he says, I would agree that his thinking would necessarily be shockingly _shallow_ on many issues.

But to compare him to a four year old then make a sweeping statement like "isn't that bright" ?

How could anyone think this? Isn't it obvious that there are domains in which he is, for better or worse, exceptionally intelligent within that domain?

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by kbenson on Thursday April 07, 2016 @12:22PM (#11448493)
I think it's interesting to try to identify his domain. I think it's marketing. He is exceptional at marketing, and at generating personal wealth from that. That is different from being a good businessman, or knowing how to run a business (and for his method of wealth generation, may by in opposition to it). I think he's very good a perpetuating his own extreme boom and bust cycles, and coasts along on that. While at the top, he's able to capitalize on the success to extend his brand,
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by MaysonL on Thursday April 07, 2016 @02:48AM (#11445229)
The trouble is, of course, that those domains (persuasion, intimidation, and braggadocio) do not include those necessary to competently be POTUS.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by gnaritas on Thursday April 07, 2016 @11:27AM (#11447993)
I didn't compare him to a 4 year old, that's a strawman. A 15 year old is a child.

> Isn't it obvious that there are domains in which he is, for better or worse, exceptionally intelligent within that domain?

No, it isn't. He's rich because daddy was rich, without that leg up he'd be living in a trailer park slobbering on himself.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by recursive on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @09:24PM (#11443923)
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by escherize on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @09:09PM (#11443847)
Dude, that's not an argument - that's a whole bunch of ad hominems. Could you bring an argument against Trump at least instead of literally smearing him and his supporters? The guy is acknowledged to have won (basically) every republican debate.. would you suggest a child can do that?
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by gnaritas on Thursday April 07, 2016 @11:28AM (#11448004)
> Dude, that's not an argument - that's a whole bunch of ad hominems.

You don't know what an ad hominem is. Those were called insults, insults are not ad hominems.

> The guy is acknowledged to have won (basically) every republican debate.. would you suggest a child can do that?

Yes actually, a decently intelligent high school child could win against that pack of dim bulbs. Republican debates are a joke won by whichever person throws enough red meat to the crowd and insults the other guy the best; they're an embarrassment to even watch.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by awjr on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @05:52PM (#11442458)
I personally use http://www.hemingwayapp.com/ when I think I've gone a bit lazy in the way I have written an article.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by huac on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @07:02PM (#11443026)
Huh, I usually only associate Hemingway with "write drunk edit sober."
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by ottumm on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @09:18PM (#11443894)
You should read more Hemingway.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by oaktowner on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @07:01PM (#11443018)
I had forgotten about that. Thanks for the reminder!
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by billhendricksjr on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @10:34PM (#11444265)
Great tool
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by readams on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @05:54PM (#11442473)
I think a much better approach would be to start with the 1000 most common words, but allow defining terms from there. This allows you to develop the correct jargon which will both enhance understanding and allow communication with others about the topic in the future.

Having to continually fall back on silly terms like "up goer" does nothing to enhance understanding when you can define what a rocket is and then just use the word rocket.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by deckar01 on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @08:19PM (#11443554)
If this colored or underlined words past the 1000 rank, instead of removing them, it would be less offensive to my sensibilities.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by SixSigma on Thursday April 07, 2016 @01:35AM (#11444948)
Amusing coincidence that readams above used "up goer", as the "up goer" editor does what you suggest :

http://splasho.com/upgoer5/

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by aparadja on Thursday April 07, 2016 @07:34AM (#11446417)
That's actually a nice implementation. It's much easier to fix errors after finishing a sentence than it is to fear every word you type. Here's my attempt to describe compilers, which ended up going a little off-track:

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If you want to make new things for a computer, you first have to write them down in a way that a computer can understand. You have to use strange computer words, not normal human words. People usually only talk to other people, so talking to a computer using only computer words is very hard.

To make it easier, there are things that take human words and then write them out as computer words so you don't have to do it yourself.

Those things were made by people who went to school for a long time. To make them, they had to know all the human words and all the computer words too. Thanks to them, you can write stuff that feels pretty normal to you, and still be able to make new things for a computer. It's still a little bit hard, but you can learn the simple stuff in a few days.

A long time ago, only a few people could build new things for computers. But today, many people like you and me build them for money or just for fun on their free time.

Just imagine: you could build a whole new thing today. A thing that no one ever had before. And if the thing you build actually helps other people, you can get a lot of money for it. That's what many of us in the "Thing Building News" place do. We go there to share stories about the things we build.

I now want to thank the people who went to school for a long time and made the things that turn human words into computer words. They help us do easy and fun stuff for money.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by SixSigma on Thursday April 07, 2016 @09:31AM (#11447063)
:) That's pretty good, well done.

The first compiler took someone with a bachelor's degree in mathematics and physics from Vasser, a master's from Yale and a Ph.D. in mathematics from Yale and 3 years of experience with the machine.

And even then :

"Nobody believed that," she said. "I had a running compiler and nobody would touch it. They told me computers could only do arithmetic."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by r00fus on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @07:10PM (#11443093)
Bingo - let users extend lingo and use crowd-sourced/maintained lingo/lexicon files.

It'd be absolutely awesome if these lexicon files evolved organically and were public over time to graph how language progresses...

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by mclovinit on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @11:13PM (#11444434)
I think even slang terms have a place here. Not sure if the goal is to really improve language skills. If not, any new widely accepted terms could be defined and optionally rated by a community for wider acceptance. If the word is fairly new it could be highlighted in some way to indicate its popularity.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by bovermyer on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @04:04PM (#11441556)
Directly relevant: Toki Pona, a language with 123 (ish) words. http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/07/toki-p...
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by cloudhead on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @03:40PM (#11441298)
You're not the only one. Words exist exactly to avoid the problem this app creates..
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by kazinator on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @03:57PM (#11441490)
With just the words "zero" and "one" strung together in some combination, we can describe a JPEG image, which can be a picture of anything. (For instance, a black and white scan of the word "deoxyribonucleic" in a Times Roman font).
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by webkike on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @04:36PM (#11441878)
The ability to describe anything says nothing about the clarity of the description
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by dredmorbius on Thursday April 07, 2016 @01:37AM (#11444954)
That's kinda the point.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by erelde on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @05:00PM (#11442061)
While playing the devil's advocate, I could argue that the description using only 0 and 1 is more precise than the phrase "It's a picture of a white cliff on the shore of the sea, possibly in the south of England, in the foreground there's the silhouette of a man or woman to small to distinguish clearly at the bottom of the cliff, the sky above the cliff is bright blue with a few trailing clouds etc etc etc etc etc".

But we're not really talking about the description of a picture, we're in fact talking about political discourse.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by CocaKoala on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @06:21PM (#11442663)
Let's play a game; I'll describe a scene to you, and you need to make a drawing of the scene based on the description. The closer your drawing is to the scene I'm describing (for some agreeable metric of 'closer'), the more money you win.

Now, do you want me to recite a bunch of ones and zeros? Or would you rather I say, "It's a picture of a white cliff on the shore of the sea, possibly in the south of England; in the foreground there's a person's silhouette, too small to pick out their gender..."?

If, as you say, you could argue that the ones and zeros makes for a more precise description, then obviously you would prefer that option, yes?

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by pdabbadabba on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @05:06PM (#11442105)
I agree with you, but clarity is not the same thing as precision.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by bcbrown on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @06:43PM (#11442872)
I disagree. That's a reproduction, not a description.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by nickcano on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @05:30PM (#11442288)
I dare you to find someone willing to, without a computer, parse such a description. JPEG is a surprisingly non-intuitive, complex format.

You're right, you can be more precise that way, but precise text means nothing if nobody is reading it.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by skybrian on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @04:23PM (#11441737)
Sure, but it's a fun writing exercise. If you write using a limited vocabulary and then fix the most convoluted paraphrases, you might end up in a better place than if you wrote it normally.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by filmgirlcw on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @04:29PM (#11441796)
Which is sort of the joke. But yes, this is absolutely correct. Moreover, as with any language, the way to get better is to use it more/get more exposed to more parts of it.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by MaysonL on Thursday April 07, 2016 @03:00AM (#11445267)
Which is the joke. Absolutely correct. And – as with any language – the way to improve is to use it.

To paraphrase and copy-edit your perceptive comment. (The subject made me do it).

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by filmgirlcw on Thursday April 07, 2016 @08:46AM (#11446768)
Well played.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by theonemind on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @08:58PM (#11443779)
I tried this, and very quickly found that out. Thereafter, I considered very carefully whether any word that wasn't in the most common 1,000 was worth introducing, and used the top 1,000 freely. That ended up working pretty well. When I found a word that really helped, I added it to the list of words I could continue to use for what I was writing.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by hackbinary on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @03:56PM (#11441479)
Maybe the author is just out by an order of magnitude? Maybe it should be 10,000 words?
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by Retra on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @08:50PM (#11443733)
Maybe it should be the 1000 least ambiguous words.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by iamcurious on Thursday April 07, 2016 @12:08PM (#11448370)
I suspect that a list of the least ambiguous words would be made entirely of numbers.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by JoeAltmaier on Thursday April 07, 2016 @12:11PM (#11448394)
Couple. Trio. Threesome. Still room for ambiguity!
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by Semiapies on Thursday April 07, 2016 @12:30PM (#11448560)
That and extremely technical terms.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by dredmorbius on Thursday April 07, 2016 @01:47AM (#11444997)
You're not, and you beat me to writing the same comment by 10 hours.

Writing is the problem of communicating ideas, and doing to to a sufficiently prepared audience, effectively.

The problem with stunts such as this -- and there are others, the "if you stop writing for 5 seconds your text starts disappearing" demo a few weeks back comes to mind -- is that they confuse the medium with the message.

Yes, it's possible to have confusing writing on account of unfamiliar terminology. That's a frequent problem with many Wikipedia articles, or much academic writing of the past few decades (older works -- say, 1950 and prior, to the 18th or even 17th century -- are often far clearer).

But the problem most often isn't just the vocabulary, it's the structure of the writing. Pop open a book of Darwin or Adam Smith (I've been reading both) and turn to a random page. Once you get over a slight old fashionedness of the writing, the thoughts are clear.

It is impossible to tell a narrative clearly if you've not organised your own thinking about it.

I've been doing a lot of thinking ... well, about a lot of things. One of those topics is of data and narrative, and the difference between a dry factual presentation (say, a data table, or a simple list of events) and a story which weaves these into a consistent whole. Our minds typically work very well with narrative, sometimes too well, as false narratives can be constructed. But the best presentations I've encountered include both solid facts and a story which ties them together. Finding an author who does this well and with skill is truly impressive.

And the good ones expand your vocabulary. Another point, and one to keep in mind.

There's also Einstein's dictum: make things as simple as possible, but no simpler. The same applies to language.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by Kaius on Friday April 08, 2016 @11:55AM (#11455581)
Exactly! There is a phrase in Thing Explainer where Randall is trying to say that a part of a space shuttle or something is made in Japan, instead of using 'Japan' he has to say something like "the land where the sun comes up" or close to it (I don't think he could use 'rising' but may be not be recalling correctly). It breaks down as soon as you try to convey something beyond base level understanding.

So yes, it sounds like using the most common 1K words would aid readability but you probably need to raise that to 2.5K or more. Low enough to avoid the use of complex words while also freeing the author from awkward phrasings.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by Spooky23 on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @10:24PM (#11444218)
Being able to express and understand complex concepts is the difference between "smart" and "dumb", educated and uneducated.

An average 4 year old in extreme poverty or public care has 10M words directed at him. A 4 year old with professional parents hears 50M. That's a key differentiator that drives future potential.

Many people lack sophisticated literacy for a variety of reasons. When Honda opened a factory in Alabama, they changed written assembly instructions into pictograms due to the poor literacy level. In aviation, documentation is written in "simplified technical English" to assist non-native English speakers.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by tim333 on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @03:40PM (#11441309)
Could be handy for non native English speakers though - less to learn.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by koenigdavidmj on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @04:37PM (#11441887)
Even so, you still really have to know the idiomatic phrases, which can be considered as separate semantic units. Just because you know what "follow" and "up" are doesn't mean that you know what it means to "follow up".
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by Semiapies on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @07:20PM (#11443160)
Yes, the use of idioms and slang is basically a cheat around the thousand-word limit of Basic English by writers trying to use it.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by jonathankoren on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @04:04PM (#11441549)
I seriously doubt it, who wants to sound like a very stupid child?

This is more of an XKCD fan boy project. So let's look at a famous XKCD comic using this, "US Space Team's Up Goer Five". "US Space Team" barely makes sense, does more to obscure than illuminate, and "Up Goer Five" makes no sense at all.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by jrockway on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @04:30PM (#11441808)
I have to disagree with you.

First off, there are many dimensions to reading new languages. Nobody is saying "learn 1000 words of English and you're done for life". Rather, achieve fluency in a subset, then work on becoming more idiomatic. If you're lost somewhere and need help, nobody cares that you sound like a stupid child. (They probably won't notice, though. I've found through learning other languages that rare words are actually very rare and of extremely limited use. Obviously if someone uses it and you don't know it, you're stuck. But you can get by without it.)

US Space Team tells you what NASA does. NASA on its own tells you nothing about what they do, for all you know it could be the National Agricultural Sabotage Administration, and their goal is to blow up farms.

You have to separate language out into the multiple dimensions that it encompasses in order to understand certain aspects. It's clear to me that you use language as a social signalling method, "that person doesn't know what NASA is, hah, they're dumb and I won't associate with them as a result." That's fine, but there is another aspect: explaining ideas. And that can be done with less than the full set of all English words.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by sremani on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @04:48PM (#11441973)
This is the problem with intelligentsia, they want to sound intelligent, using "heavy hitter" words. What about the intelligent person who is non-native speaker? This association of English fluency with Intelligence has ruined untold number of careers in the world, esp. in countries where English is official but non-native language.

I welcome simplified English in every shape or form, from limiting words to changing spellings and streamline it. Its no more language of people from England, every one in the world has stake in it. English reformation is long over due.

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by WalterBright on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @05:24PM (#11442256)
> This is the problem with intelligentsia, they want to sound intelligent, using "heavy hitter" words.

Some people insert heavy hitter words into their speech in order to sound more intelligent. It comes across as unnatural and awkward, though.

But people who have acquired large vocabularies organically, by being around people who talk that way or by reading a lot, use it naturally and unthinkingly. And then there are authors and such who use language like a painter uses color. English is a very rich language, and if you want to paint a rich scene with words, there is quite a palette to choose from. Would you tell a painter he can only use primary colors?

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by jonathankoren on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @05:33PM (#11442324)
There's a huge difference between using the correct word, and using a proverbia 10 dollar word. Limiting yourself to the "ten hundred" most common words is just limiting. You can't even say you're hurt.[0]

[0] http://www.esldesk.com/vocabulary/words

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by flashman on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @07:25PM (#11443194)
But "you are having a bad problem and you will not go to space today" is one of the funniest understatements I've ever read.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by meric on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @04:14PM (#11441663)
"stupid" = depends on the age.

Unless you meant all children are stupid....

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by jonathankoren on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @05:25PM (#11442262)
I meant a 5 year old on the left side of the bell curve of all all 5 year olds.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by berns on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @04:19PM (#11441702)
The very popular Oxford Learner's Dictionary uses a limited vocabulary of 3 500 words for its definitions.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by cpeterso on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @06:23PM (#11442686)
The "Simple English" version of Wikipedia uses the Basic English 2000 and Voice of America's Special English 1500 word list:

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_English_Wikipedia

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by wang_li on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @05:14PM (#11442163)
You are correct. Lectern v. podium. When we have specific words for things, we should use them. Moving down a step in specificity is not conducive to clarity.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by OJFord on Thursday April 07, 2016 @01:22PM (#11448941)
I thought the same thing when it was done (or was it 10k?) for _Things Explained_ by 'the XKCD guy'.

Great idea, needs more words. It's too extreme.

In the case of this editor, it may actually be useful to some if `N` were configurable, and maybe exceptions could be added. (If you're writing an OS X user guide say, you want to be able to write 'OS X'!)

Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by jdavis703 on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @08:39PM (#11443666)
Genuine question: have you ever tried to learn a foreign language? At least for me long sentences, with easier, more common, words are easier to understand.
Re:Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most ... by swiley on Wednesday April 06, 2016 @09:41PM (#11444002)
It's kind of like "limit" and "dx/dy" in calculus compared to the crazy long prose people in ancient times had to write.