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Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by TheOtherHobbes on Sunday January 24, 2016 @05:52PM (#10964428)
A related word of warning: Namecheap updated their registration page last year.

Now, when you register a domain it tells you free Whoisguard is included, but it doesn't make it clear that it's disabled by default."

Previously it just worked. Now you have to check another box to turn it on.

This change makes no sense to me. (If you want free Whoisguard, why would you not want it turned on?)

I was white-hot furious* when I discovered that a handful of new domain regs had leaked my contact details, and I began getting the inevitable spam calls and texts.

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by scoot on Sunday January 24, 2016 @07:04PM (#10964693)
Worse, they'll happily sell you Whoisguard for domains that don't support it. When you discover it's not usable, they'll give you a refund, then include it again in the next billing cycle.

I switched to Namecheap based on recommendations here, and their previous stance on certain privacy issues, but I'm running out of alternatives.

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by lpsz on Sunday January 24, 2016 @07:25PM (#10964796)
A happy NameCheap user for years, I have started switching away. Their horrid "modern" 40px padding everywhere bubbly redesign makes GoDaddy look good in comparison. A major pain to manage more than a couple of domains, and numerous user feedback seems to fall on deaf ears, e.g. [1][2][3][4]

Example weird feature: all domains are shown, even ones that you've let expire/sold years ago, and there is no way to hide them.

[1] https://community.namecheap.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=...

[2] https://community.namecheap.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=...

[3] https://community.namecheap.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=...

[4] https://community.namecheap.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=...

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by romanhn on Monday January 25, 2016 @12:54AM (#10965816)
Another ex-happy Namecheap customer here. Was going through credit card fraud issues back in July. In September out of nowhere get an email from Namecheap support that my July payment for one of the domains did not go through and I owe them $240 for the chargeback. No amount of reasoning got through to them - this is after several years of owning multiple domains with them. Dropped the penalty by $100, but that didn't exactly make it right. As I was considering my options, they locked all of my domains and redirected to parking pages. Had to pay up to get them back. Avoid at all costs.

TL;DR: Credit card was stolen, Namecheap penalized me for that and then blackmailed by locking all domains.

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by tamar on Monday January 25, 2016 @07:17AM (#10966740)
Hey romanhn - did you contact support and try to make it right by reversing the chargeback?

This isn't about blackmail as jewsin writes in the comments, it's about the reputation a business suffers with a chargeback. All you would need to do is reverse the chargeback and the full charge would go away.

Disclosure: I work for Namecheap.

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by romanhn on Monday January 25, 2016 @12:27PM (#10968480)
Hi tamar - thanks for reaching out! I was in contact with multiple members of the support team throughout this ordeal. Supposedly they consulted with senior management as well. Business reputation was never mentioned - it was always about paying a fee to the payment processor. At no point was chargeback reversal brought up. To be perfectly honest, I know nothing about chargebacks (this wasn't something I initiated, it was fraud-related) and the idea of a reversal never popped into my head. I may try to bring this up with them again, but I'm not sure how much I can do half a year after the fraud occurrence.

Still, I think my original points stand. I find Namecheap locking out unrelated domains and redirecting traffic unethical and in bad faith of the service provider / customer relationship. Not to mention that the domains continued to point to parking pages even after I paid up.

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by tamar on Monday January 25, 2016 @06:01PM (#10970683)
Hey romanhn - so sorry for this. Can you share your ticket number? I think there was a definite mistake in the process here as that should have been broached and if it requires some updated training for the billing team, I'll put in my recommendation for that.

I'm sorry as well for the parking page situation - my guess is it didn't immediately propagate, but I'd have to investigate further as to why that happened. Usually, it's not about redirecting traffic but just not letting you get into your account. This does not sound like it should have happened at all. I sincerely apologize that this is what you encountered.

p.s. I love how trying to genuinely be helpful has resulted in an onslaught of downvotes. I'm going to assume you helped balance that out with an upvote. So thanks :)

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by Silhouette on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @01:40PM (#10975030)
p.s. I love how trying to genuinely be helpful has resulted in an onslaught of downvotes.

I wish people wouldn't do that. It does appear that Namecheap has behaved very poorly in this case, intentionally or otherwise. Sadly, downvoting a person who works for an organisation has become a proxy for downvoting the organisation itself on HN recently, which doesn't seem constructive, particularly if that person is trying to share relevant information and/or improve the situation.

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by romanhn on Monday January 25, 2016 @08:40PM (#10971364)
I did upvote, don't think the downvotes are deserved.

Sent my ticket number via the contact form on the website from your profile. I see that you spearheaded the SOPA membership surge - it's what got me to join in the first place.

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by tamar on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @07:12AM (#10973015)
Looks like things are working out right now - feel free to keep me posted. You know where to find me now ;)
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by jeswin on Monday January 25, 2016 @05:41AM (#10966482)
Wow, I was just about to switch to Namecheap. More people need to hear this. How can a registrar make DNS changes without permission and blackmail?

Please write a blog post about this.

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by matt4077 on Monday January 25, 2016 @07:22AM (#10966760)
"If you don't pay us, we'll turn it off" isn't blackmail.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by Silhouette on Monday January 25, 2016 @07:48AM (#10966859)
But locking all of romanh's domains, so he can't take his business elsewhere, and transferring all of the traffic intended for his systems to somewhere else, does sound a lot like blackmail, not to mention blatant violation of how domain registration is supposed to work.

Also, $240 because of one chargeback, and doing the above while the customer is trying to sort out a fraud issue? Neither of those sounds like normal practice for a responsible domain registrar either.

Obviously there are two sides to every story and we're only seeing one here, but that one does look pretty bad for Namecheap.

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by tamar on Monday January 25, 2016 @07:54AM (#10966876)
Please see my comments above - there are ways around this but it appears that that path was never pursued.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by uptown on Sunday January 24, 2016 @09:15PM (#10965213)
Another Namecheap "gotcha" is they auto-renew any domains you have setup for auto-renewal a full month before you're due for expiration. So if you're thinking of moving away, and trying to decide as the expiration date approaches, make sure to disable auto-renew on those domains while you decide.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by Timothee on Monday January 25, 2016 @01:30AM (#10965908)
It was my understanding that the registration time you have with one registrar carries over with the next registrar. In other words, if your domain is automatically renewed for a year and you move to a different registrar and pay for one year, your domain will be registered for two years.

I must say that I have never verified this myself, mostly because I've never needed it that bad. At least something worth looking into if that problem arises.

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by spash on Monday January 25, 2016 @05:30AM (#10966448)
Yep, that's exactly what happens: https://duckduckgo.com/?q="domain+transfer"+"remaining+time"

(Can actually confirm that from this month's experience, so it's even freshly verified :)

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by tamar on Monday January 25, 2016 @07:23AM (#10966767)
Not really a gotcha. Some TLDs require that early renewal and one month is how we handle to avoid any disconnection in service. But yes, if you move away after a domain is renewed (e.g. your domain expires in 2017, most registrars -- but not all -- will add a year to renew in 2018).

(Full disclosure: I work at Namecheap)

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by daveheq on Monday January 25, 2016 @12:55AM (#10965821)
But everyone's using a 10" Surface tablet now! We all need that 40px padding for our sausage fingers while tapping our screen at work.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by chrisper on Sunday January 24, 2016 @08:58PM (#10965153)
Do you mind sharing where you switched to?
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by scrollaway on Monday January 25, 2016 @01:58AM (#10965978)
I recommend Gandi. They support almost all the TLDs, their web UI is very decent, their support is excellent and they live up to their "No bullshit" motto. They are also overall good guys, donate to the EFF, took public stances against sopa and such...

They're a bit more expensive when it comes to domains but we're talking single dollars a year here.

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by seanp2k2 on Sunday January 24, 2016 @11:03PM (#10965496)
Name.com has been legit for me for about 10 years. Use code PRIVACYPLEASE for free whois privacy (this code has worked for the past ~5 years). I've also used IWantMyName for some TLDs that name.com didn't have and I liked that they had 2FA, but overall it was much less polished.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by Spooky23 on Sunday January 24, 2016 @10:04PM (#10965334)
I've used joker.com for years. The website isn't pretty, but you can actually do many functions via pgp email.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by lpsz on Sunday January 24, 2016 @09:22PM (#10965239)
Ah, just Amazon (which uses Gandi under the hood.)

Many pluses: predictable, can be administered using the AWS CLI, consolidated billing with other AWS services. Heck, can even register domains from the CLI.

Only downside as others have pointed out is that Gandi doesn't make it at all easy to hide your name or company contact information.

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by the_ancient on Monday January 25, 2016 @05:47AM (#10966499)
>Ah, just Amazon

So you are recommending someone switch over privacy concerns from namecheap to Amazon in story about how Amazon is leaking private Customer data.....

Really...

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by coldpie on Monday January 25, 2016 @08:46AM (#10967096)
I've been using Moniker for ages. I'm always surprised I don't see it recommended more often. They seem very steady and reliable.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by tbrock on Monday January 25, 2016 @12:10AM (#10965699)
What about Google domains?
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by tamar on Monday January 25, 2016 @07:21AM (#10966755)
lpsz - Tamar from Namecheap here. We're working on the padding. It's not that it's falling on deaf ears; it's just that it's taking time for us to implement and QA.

Also, the issue with all domains being shown is a bug. If you have a ticket number regarding this, please let me know and I'll investigate this further because it should be resolved.

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by spash on Sunday January 24, 2016 @11:03PM (#10965494)
Same here - a satisfied Namecheap customer for years, but forced to move my domains away recently. Ironically, what originally brought me there was exactly the huge level of support for Namecheap in HN ranks (well, and few instances elsewhere.)

But their "redesign" and presumably the backend changes tied to it (or lack of them, whatever the real case is) resulted in the worst experience I've ever had with this kind of service in years, culminating in what was the last straw - one of my domains getting shut down five times in a single month due to bogus "domain contacts verification" procedures, which their support wasn't able to solve from early December to when I finally decided to move away in mid-January (from a short exchange after I moved away I assume it's still broken today as they were apparently "investigating it" even after I was gone. That after having it in some or some other way "fixed" for about three times during the previous support exchanges.) Honestly though during that time my tickets mostly kept bouncing back and forth through customer reps that insisted on politely suggesting things like "to check my spam folder", even though I specifically explained every time that I was in full control of my mail servers and that it is them who don't deliver any kind of verification emails to those servers, so there was really nothing that could even end up in "a spam folder" and that yes, I actually thoroughly checked that, several times over. Yet my requests for them to check their own mail logs because I'm here actually losing access to my domains without being able to do anything about it were each time politely swept under the rug with generic assurances like "they're working on it and will keep me informed"... Then quickly closed the ticket as fixed. Every time after the one particular domain went dark (and with another domain randomly flipping into bogus unverified states in the frontend interface, clearly lingering on the edge of the same fate), the domain was reactivated either by me or the customer support, was either set to have its contacts covered by WhoisGuard (which doesn't even use the contacts verification process at all), or at a later point even manually set back to fully verified by their techs (and one time completely having all my zone data wiped without explanation or apparently without whoever caused it having a backup at hand to restore it from) - only to again and again end up suspended as "unverified" several days later, losing me access to its emails, websites, everything...

Now I could still go on and on about how clunky the entire new interface compared to the old one is (yes, the original was lackluster, but not even remotely this level bad and in fact I've never had a single technical issue with it, other than being somewhat hard to navigate) and that ever since the redesign the new frontend frequently displays outdated or plain wrong information, crashes with cryptic errors, sometimes just decides to log you out five times in five minutes for no reason, but I think this is getting too long as it is anyway, so enough.

When I finally grew tired of running through their customer support in a neverending circle (to their credit, they were always very polite and nice, but it felt like that's all that Namecheap support was really trained for. And that clearly doesn't make my domains magically work there), I moved to Gandi just basing on their overall popularity and good reputation with a few people. Already in a week time I had two great support experiences with them and got my issues resolved each time in literally a single step of exchange. In the first case I've received about a page-length of actual technical reply from their support rep that not only bothered to carefully read through several issues that I ran into when trying to run a Python app on their web hosting platform that I ordered for the domains moved there, they even included a how-to custom tailored to my specific use case that was way beyond what I originally asked for and that ended up saving me quite some time discovering it on my own, and also acknowledged that they had a major issue in their documentation system and that they had it quickly fixed in meantime. Now second time was less technical, as I accidentally burned a discount code while customizing and re-customizing some orders in what was probably an unexpected way for their interface, that ended in the code never being applied to any order but still ended up as used and lost... I wrote down the problem in a few sentences, customer support quickly verified it and issued me a new replacement code right with the initial reply in what had to be less than an hour. Can't really say I'll be missing Namecheap any time soon.

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by dates on Sunday January 24, 2016 @08:44PM (#10965095)
css stylebot or a smiliar extension that allows you to create persistent stylesheets could help you! i think your grievance is legitamate
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by rpgmaker on Sunday January 24, 2016 @09:25PM (#10965246)
That sounds like an awesome extension. I will have to look it up.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by veidr on Sunday January 24, 2016 @07:19PM (#10964772)
I've always wondered why I never see pairNIC mentioned on the "everybody knows godaddy is garbage but who should I use to register domains?" threads on HN.

I have used them since they opened (2002) and never used anybody else after that, because I have never been dissatisfied. (I don't remember if the box is checked by default, but they definitely offer whois privacy, along with services like custom/dynamic DNS and some other stuff, at no extra charge).

Their site is kinda barebones and old-school, but there are real humans in the rare case you actually need one, and they've never done me wrong.

So for whatever that's worth: another recommendation on HN.

[1]: https://www.pairnic.com/about.html

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by cenal on Sunday January 24, 2016 @11:05PM (#10965501)
I used Pair right after they were accredited as a registrar in the 90's up till the mid 2000's but found they were expensive both for domain registration and for hosting. Great customer service but for a commodity like a domain name it's just not worth it for me.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by gkop on Sunday January 24, 2016 @08:04PM (#10964952)
Last I checked pairNIC was > $15/year for .com etc. That adds up when you have many domains. Therefore I use pairNIC for the domains I really care about, and Namecheap for the rest.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by joshwa on Sunday January 24, 2016 @10:11PM (#10965349)
it seems they are down to $9.99/year: https://www.pairnic.com/prices.html
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by gkop on Monday January 25, 2016 @11:01AM (#10967854)
Wow! No excuses now. With pairNIC you can call up and talk to a technical person during business hours in Pittsburgh, PA.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by jrcii on Sunday January 24, 2016 @09:44PM (#10965285)
I'm happy with hover.com. They're part of Tucows, who I've been a fan of since the good ol' days.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by seanp2k2 on Sunday January 24, 2016 @11:05PM (#10965499)
OpenSRS is also Tucows but only for resellers. Their reseller system works alright. Used to use it when I worked for a hosting co.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by imron on Monday January 25, 2016 @03:46AM (#10966213)
Namesilo works well for me, and they have free whois privacy.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by cparker15 on Sunday January 24, 2016 @10:26PM (#10965393)
I've been a happy user of Google Domains since closed beta. I'll never go anywhere else for domains again.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by revanx_ on Monday January 25, 2016 @02:26AM (#10966048)
Still waiting for them to open to the rest of the world, beta is only for USA. Frankly , no idea what is taking them so long.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by odonnellryan on Sunday January 24, 2016 @09:22PM (#10965238)
What's wrong with name.com?
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by vanadium on Monday January 25, 2016 @01:30AM (#10965907)
Depends on who you're asking and from what timeframe you're asking about. They used to be absolutely horrid in the age of alternate and meta-TLDs when the real rush to nab a domain was on. I can't speak about present times, however.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by newman314 on Sunday January 24, 2016 @07:14PM (#10964747)
Plus Whoisguard is only free for the first year. There's Google Domains for $12/yr but the dollar and some savings isn't worth the hassle of switching away from Namecheap.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by JoshTriplett on Sunday January 24, 2016 @11:29PM (#10965564)
I'd recommend gandi.net; among many other reasons, they don't charge for whois privacy, though you still have to turn it on.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by the_ancient on Monday January 25, 2016 @05:42AM (#10966484)
I have been happy with NameSilo.

They have a very strong privacy stance and take security seriously

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by shocks on Monday January 25, 2016 @02:37AM (#10966069)
Maybe check out gandi.net? Very happy with them so far.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by mangeletti on Sunday January 24, 2016 @10:08PM (#10965341)
Hiding your contact information is like security through obscurity. I'm not saying it's not a good extra step to decrease the frequency of attacks (much like changing an SSH port to 3857 or something), but it doesn't add any real security. This is the crux of the problem; our addressees and birthdays are treated like passwords by these companies.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by iopq on Sunday January 24, 2016 @11:01PM (#10965490)
Passwords are also security by obscurity.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by andrewaylett on Monday January 25, 2016 @03:43AM (#10966204)
Not really -- security by obscurity is a re-statement of the idea that the security mechanism shouldn't need to be secret for the security to have meaning. You're allowed to have secret data, just not secret mechanism.

And relying on what looks like secret data (changing the SSH port) where the number of bits of entropy is low enough that it's plausible to try them all (16) probably still counts as security by obscurity -- it might hide you from many attackers, but it's not enough to make you secure.

Relying on data that's not actually secret, just hard to find, is just insecure.

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by noja on Monday January 25, 2016 @04:15AM (#10966278)
> but it's not enough to make you secure.

That's not why you change the ssh port at all.

You change the ssh port to filter out false positives, if someone is attacking you on your weirdo ssh port, it's likely an actual attack that you need to pay attention to. You still need to do the rest of the security stuff.

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by andrepd on Sunday January 24, 2016 @11:39PM (#10965596)
Ssh ports are brute forceable, passwords have a much much larger search space.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by SXX on Monday January 25, 2016 @03:09AM (#10966131)
Changed SSH port is not security measure. It's needed to keep your log files clear from random network scanning.

When your SSH port is something like 53148 and you see password brute-force activity in logs it's almost always mean that somebody intentionally scanning your server.

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by zifnab06 on Monday January 25, 2016 @03:50AM (#10966220)
Just a note: if you do change it, keep it below 1024. Otherwise if ssh dies anyone on the server can create a client listening on that port and steal credentials.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by acdha on Monday January 25, 2016 @11:20PM (#10971799)
That's a somewhat obsolete belief – people have been scanning arbitrary ports for many, many years and SSH daemons helpfully announce themselves to search engines:

https://www.shodan.io/report/uMZDnWfT

This is a long-running problem and one with various popular solutions: restrict the source networks which you accept traffic for, disable password authentication entirely, and add some sort of rate limiting (e.g. 2004's fail2ban) for failures. Trying to reduce log volume by obscurity is futile - you really need to address the root problem and use tools which allow you to filter and aggregate effectively.

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by MertsA on Monday January 25, 2016 @12:27AM (#10965760)
At this point, 16 bits of entropy is more than the entropy of a lot of the passwords that I've seen.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by richardwhiuk on Monday January 25, 2016 @04:28AM (#10966314)
You have 10 bits of entropy at best, unless you put it above 1024, at which point if it dies, any none privileged user on the box can sniff passwords.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by Dylan16807 on Monday January 25, 2016 @07:22AM (#10966761)
Why are you using passwords for SSH?

Do you actually have untrusted users on the box?

Why would you not secure the custom port to root-only?

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by arielb1 on Monday January 25, 2016 @05:47AM (#10966501)
If you are serious, you should limit SSH access to a bastion host with no unprivileged users.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by lmm on Monday January 25, 2016 @05:14AM (#10966412)
Passwords are explicitly keys and not used for any other purpose.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by nikcub on Sunday January 24, 2016 @09:48PM (#10965292)
I found last week that Namecheap enabled auto-renew of both the domain and whoisguard by default:

http://imgur.com/hoGfojZ.png

If you click-through the checkout with the 'Confirm Order' button at the top right away you can miss that detail - as I have twice.

One of the reasons I switched to Namecheap in the first place is because they were a registrar that didn't rely on bundling tricks. I'm considering moving all of my domains away.

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by nostalgiac on Sunday January 24, 2016 @09:26PM (#10965251)
I'm not sure how true this is.

I registered a new domain with Namecheap just last Thursday and it had whoisguard automatically turned on.

Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by Buge on Sunday January 24, 2016 @10:49PM (#10965450)
I think it is enabled automatically for free for the first year, but does not automatically renew, because it is not free after the first year.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by longnguyen on Sunday January 24, 2016 @09:30PM (#10965258)
Same here. I've registered a bunch of domain names with Namecheap over the last year and they all had whoisguard turned on.
Re:Amazon's customer service backdoor by 0x01 on Monday January 25, 2016 @05:13AM (#10966408)
Please can you tell me how I can verify whether my details have been leaked?

I've recently purchased a domain from namecheap, with whoisguard, and if I recall correctly I didn't have to turn it on. I whois'd myself and found that it didn't leak anything. It didn't occur to me that scrapers can get at the info before you protect it.

Perhaps this has changed since your experience? Please could anybody else verify one way or another?

Cheers