Re:Making of Aprilzero
by kalvin on Thursday July 17, 2014 @04:12AM
(#8046497)
This is SO well done. So, so impressive.
A side question, for any doctors on HN-- I'm really curious, what do you think about the Blood Tests section? That is, the benefits of monthly blood testing. From talking to one earlier today about related topics (coincidentally!) I could imagine the following response:
1. The ideal ranges for each value on your blood test do not necessarily represent the ideal range for you personally -- and not only do they not necessarily represent the ideal range for you, if your number is outside them and you're otherwise asymptomatic, your number is likely already "healthy" (with very few major exceptions like blood pressure and cholesterol.)
2. So by doing this, you aren't actually tracking things that need to be improved, or rather, you have no way of knowing if you'd be "more healthy" by being within range
3. So, getting monthly blood tests is useless, and any changes detected would also be useless
4. (And as an aside, annual physicals for young healthy people are not beneficial (and can be harmful) to health)
Is this right? Was I just talking to a curmudgeon? Tech-optimistic doctors, what do you think?
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by davak on Saturday July 19, 2014 @05:55PM
(#8058886)
For normal people monthly lab testing would be overkill at best and dangerous at worse.
The thing to remember about lab tests is that the "normals" are based on bell curves so approximately 1 out of 20 labs will be abnormal from this phenomena alone. The more labs you get, the more false abnormals you get. If each false abnormal gets worked up, you are talking a lot of additional testing and worry.
Typical recommendations to test hypercholesterolemia is every 90 days at most if actively treating and then yearly once stable.
To your aside, I think annual physicals are probably overkill, but primary care doctors are now expertly trained in screening for multiple issues that could affect young healthy folks. Seeing your PCP for a "well-person" visit every few years is a good idea. Most of the time the doctor isn't going to order labs and will just chat a bit, do a physical exam, and get you on your way. A good doctor will have informed opinions about your exercise and diet regimen, for example.
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by dschwartz88 on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @03:29PM
(#8043997)
I realize that this took a huge amount of time, so asking for an open source version of this might be asking a bit much. But, I would absolutely be willing to pay for a SaaS product, or a licensing fee for the code. It's absolutely beautiful, and as someone who does this in a gross spreadsheet, moving to something like this would be unbelievable.
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by joshdance on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @04:58PM
(#8044526)
Considering most people are casual observers 3 comments about paying for this is a positive signal. vpj should just throw up a landing page asking for money and start building. :)
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by k-mcgrady on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @06:17PM
(#8044935)
I would also love to pay for this. However I would not want a typical SAAS product. I don't want my data on your servers. Give me something I can install myself really easily. There are products out their which do the SAAS things and ones which I can install locally (if I setup a server, database, configure it all etc.etc.). Give me something really simple and something I can secure myself locally and you have lots of my money. I don't have much, but I will give you lots of it :)
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by nilved on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @05:14PM
(#8044625)
> I realize that this took a huge amount of time, so asking for an open source version of this might be asking a bit much.
What's this to mean? Linux and gcc took much more time from many more developers. Licensing isn't a function of your investment into the project, it's a function of how the project will best benefit the world.
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by markgarity on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @05:58PM
(#8044844)
Anand, you have SERIOUSLY outdone yourself on this one. I continue to aspire to attain frontend design chops as good as yours.
I remember watching Iron Man with this guy in his apartment in LA while trying to convince him to move to SF. He took meticulous sketches and notes on the UI used in the film. I look at this, especially the initial circular ui, and see the culmination of those notes with amazing use of frontend technologies and near perfect 3rd party integrations.
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by blueatlas on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @03:14PM
(#8043921)
This is a striking example of the amount of work and thought that goes into a design that presents rich data so clearly and cleanly. The casual visitor would likely never have an idea of what it took to build what they are looking at.
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by exogen on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @06:10PM
(#8044903)
Yes. It really shines a lot on the fact that those futuristic movie interfaces didn't just spring out of the computer by virtue of it being the future. And I'm not talking about the CGI folks who create those interfaces for the movie (although of course that's a lot of work, too) – I mean in the fictional movie universe, where did those UIs come from? Are we assuming that in the future, computers will be auto-generating all these sweet transitions and design details? It seems to me that it will always come about just like April Zero – through a LOT of effort, trial, and error.
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by smilefreak on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @08:09PM
(#8045329)
This is seriously an awesome and well executed concept.
I am working in genetics lab that studies complex disease. Many of these diseases have many environmental component and there is much interest in investigating these so-called gene-environment interactions.
Currently to investigate interactions between genes and the environment, we rely on patients to fill in questionnaires, which are problematic because people are inaccurate. Other more specific measurements are gathered with nurses taking blood, serum etc.
I wonder whether this could be deployed in anyway in medical research, using the smartphones currently on the market.
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by debt on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @08:29PM
(#8045385)
This definitely would provide a visual hierarchy to view all the potential interactions, though I think your problem might be more hardware-related.
I assume if you combined as many of these apps(Moves, Cardiio, Foursquare, etc.) into a single app(including peripherals like the USB ultrasound, which seems impossible right now) you could get close to a pretty accurate picture of a person's total gene interactions throughout the day. Also, the app would have to be running continuously in the background.
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by vxNsr on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @09:27PM
(#8045544)
You can actually track him hour to hour... kinda crazy that he's providing that, the site design is a little different than described I found myself clicking on things that weren't links and being sent places I didn't want to go because I'd click something that looked clickable but turned out not to be and clicking on unclickable things sends you back one step.
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by radicality on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @08:01PM
(#8045294)
He also travels business/first and stays in 5* hotels (clicked something on the Explore tab). My guess is some kind of previous startup that sold well? Maybe his roommate can fill us in.
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by PStamatiou on Thursday July 17, 2014 @12:45AM
(#8046082)
Had a well paying job for several years and lots of freelancing before that, has roommates so his rent is not absurd so he can afford the great opportunity to travel a lot. :)
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by jjsz on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @11:39PM
(#8045954)
According to the previous discussion, he used, ignoring analytics and APIs: js (coffeescript), leaflet, d3 (mercator projection), jQuery, SASS, mapbox, jquery-pjax, python (django), individual animated state transitions with css, and webkit transitions.
This is on another level. What extra resources on the side would one recommend following IDV for the Web [1], to close the gap?
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by joeyspn on Thursday July 17, 2014 @07:16AM
(#8046869)
This is an awesome work, really. The design style reminds me a lot of Eric Jordan's style (2advanced Studios) [0]. Not really a new style, but nice to see that Interaction Design with open technologies (HTML/JS/CSS) is arriving "there", where (believe or not) Flash was 10 years ago...
I've been waiting for this moment for years. Hopefully this will set a new trend.
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by karl_gluck on Thursday July 17, 2014 @01:16AM
(#8046157)
This is really amazing; on the desktop, the site looks fantastic and it is very interesting to browse. I learned way more about his travel history than probably necessary due to sheer interest.
That said, it is completely unusable on the phone. Not just 'it looks weird' but completely broken. I can't navigate anything or even read the article linked here. -Firefox on Nexus 5
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by ejain on Thursday July 17, 2014 @01:50AM
(#8046219)
InsideTracker and WellnessFX are two companies that offer direct-to-consumer blood testing at somewhat reasonable prices. Another company called Cue [https://cue.me/] is working on a device that would let you do certain blood tests at home.
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by PStamatiou on Thursday July 17, 2014 @12:49AM
(#8046096)
Always kind of knew of his work online for years. He eventually moved to SF a few years back. I wanted to hire him for my startup at the time but couldn't afford him, but we hung out a lot and eventually got a place with another friend
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by hexleo on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @09:36PM
(#8045568)
Amazing, the blog's owner is a designer? Full of modern sense. It's a good idea, combine many health apps and LBS apps data, display to user. It's done automatically?
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by basseq on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @05:02PM
(#8044550)
This is really amazing. A lot of thoughtful work went into this site, and it's great that he took the time to document the process and talk through it. Wow.
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by k-mcgrady on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @06:43PM
(#8045041)
I know there are certain things you can pay the NHS to do (e.g. a friend had to get a full physical signed off by the doctor to participate in boxing and had to pay £20 for it). But then again blood tests are usually pretty slow even for people who need them so they may not want people paying and taking up resources.
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by Jonovono on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @10:09PM
(#8045644)
hmm, as far as I know you just pay the $10 a year if you want to have your photos stored on the cloud, but if you are willing to store all them yourself you can do that. But i'll double check that!
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by djloche on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @06:31PM
(#8044992)
Not to diminish Anand's credibility at all - but why does he have to be anything other than some random web developer? Does everyone have to have some magical backstory to qualify to ship something great?
The primary difference between Anand and 'some random web developer' is that he actually shipped. You can join this club too.
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by k-mcgrady on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @06:41PM
(#8045030)
>> Does everyone have to have some magical backstory to qualify to ship something great?
I was wondering the same as the parent and not because I thought there was a 'magical backstory' but because when someone ships something this good they have usually shipped something else you know of.
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by lukeholder on Thursday July 17, 2014 @02:28AM
(#8046309)
I disagree, a lot of people crate massively good work but never self promote. Not that he is self promoting, but the point stands producing high quality work does not mean fame.
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by ff7c11 on Thursday July 17, 2014 @10:31AM
(#8047724)
Ok, but the lifestyle of just hoping on a plane somewhere to get into the mind of an explorer requires you to be getting funding from somewhere (though perhaps not dev work)
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by nilved on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @05:12PM
(#8044611)
On Arch Linux using WebKit, this page doesn't load at all without JavaScript, and doesn't work at all with it. Can you fix the site or provide a text version?
Re:Making of Aprilzero
by nilved on Wednesday July 16, 2014 @07:59PM
(#8045282)
Definitely, but a well-made site will degrade gracefully. I digress though, because I'm okay with turning on JavaScript; the issue is that the page still doesn't react to scrolling.
A side question, for any doctors on HN-- I'm really curious, what do you think about the Blood Tests section? That is, the benefits of monthly blood testing. From talking to one earlier today about related topics (coincidentally!) I could imagine the following response:
1. The ideal ranges for each value on your blood test do not necessarily represent the ideal range for you personally -- and not only do they not necessarily represent the ideal range for you, if your number is outside them and you're otherwise asymptomatic, your number is likely already "healthy" (with very few major exceptions like blood pressure and cholesterol.)
2. So by doing this, you aren't actually tracking things that need to be improved, or rather, you have no way of knowing if you'd be "more healthy" by being within range
3. So, getting monthly blood tests is useless, and any changes detected would also be useless
4. (And as an aside, annual physicals for young healthy people are not beneficial (and can be harmful) to health)
Is this right? Was I just talking to a curmudgeon? Tech-optimistic doctors, what do you think?
The thing to remember about lab tests is that the "normals" are based on bell curves so approximately 1 out of 20 labs will be abnormal from this phenomena alone. The more labs you get, the more false abnormals you get. If each false abnormal gets worked up, you are talking a lot of additional testing and worry.
Typical recommendations to test hypercholesterolemia is every 90 days at most if actively treating and then yearly once stable.
To your aside, I think annual physicals are probably overkill, but primary care doctors are now expertly trained in screening for multiple issues that could affect young healthy folks. Seeing your PCP for a "well-person" visit every few years is a good idea. Most of the time the doctor isn't going to order labs and will just chat a bit, do a physical exam, and get you on your way. A good doctor will have informed opinions about your exercise and diet regimen, for example.
Author: https://twitter.com/aprilzero
What's this to mean? Linux and gcc took much more time from many more developers. Licensing isn't a function of your investment into the project, it's a function of how the project will best benefit the world.
I remember watching Iron Man with this guy in his apartment in LA while trying to convince him to move to SF. He took meticulous sketches and notes on the UI used in the film. I look at this, especially the initial circular ui, and see the culmination of those notes with amazing use of frontend technologies and near perfect 3rd party integrations.
Well done, man. You are an inspiration to me.
Building a site as beautiful as this must have left you inundated with job offers. It's really awesome!
I am working in genetics lab that studies complex disease. Many of these diseases have many environmental component and there is much interest in investigating these so-called gene-environment interactions.
Currently to investigate interactions between genes and the environment, we rely on patients to fill in questionnaires, which are problematic because people are inaccurate. Other more specific measurements are gathered with nurses taking blood, serum etc.
I wonder whether this could be deployed in anyway in medical research, using the smartphones currently on the market.
I assume if you combined as many of these apps(Moves, Cardiio, Foursquare, etc.) into a single app(including peripherals like the USB ultrasound, which seems impossible right now) you could get close to a pretty accurate picture of a person's total gene interactions throughout the day. Also, the app would have to be running continuously in the background.
Great design!
This is on another level. What extra resources on the side would one recommend following IDV for the Web [1], to close the gap?
[1] http://chimera.labs.oreilly.com/books/1230000000345/index.ht...
I've been waiting for this moment for years. Hopefully this will set a new trend.
[0] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANng1oTO2Zk
That said, it is completely unusable on the phone. Not just 'it looks weird' but completely broken. I can't navigate anything or even read the article linked here. -Firefox on Nexus 5
https://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/07/aurora-16-is-out/
http://www.amazon.com/BodyMetrix-Personal-Ultrasound-Body-Co...
I'm kind of surprised that both of you are living in a roommate situation. How did you guys know each other?
Bookmarked for future reference.
But, So screwed up on IE10.
http://caniuse.com/transforms2d
http://caniuse.com/css-transitions
http://caniuse.com/css-animation
http://caniuse.com/css-gradients
Must say all that -webkit- yellow on those pages is scary.
The primary difference between Anand and 'some random web developer' is that he actually shipped. You can join this club too.
I was wondering the same as the parent and not because I thought there was a 'magical backstory' but because when someone ships something this good they have usually shipped something else you know of.