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Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by jtchang on Thursday March 21, 2013 @01:15PM (#5416902)
Awesome. I am just looking into chat options for our small but growing team.

As an aside I think IRC is being sold short on this chart:

https://www.hipchat.com/compare

Nothing wrong against it since it is mosting a marketing comparison chart. IRC is fairly hard to use if you aren't familiar with it already so I get it.

We decided to try out an IRC channel because it was easy to get started, no cost really, and knowing how to connect to IRC is important if you ever want to get support inside #python or #django. Plus lots of other open source projects have IRC so it is good to know.

Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by Fauntleroy on Thursday March 21, 2013 @01:57PM (#5417389)
Shameless plug here, re: "IRC is fairly hard to use if you aren't familiar with it already"

I'm currently working on a web based IRC client called Relay.js (https://github.com/Fauntleroy/relay.js), which is my attempt at making IRC a little more approachable. It's pretty basic at the moment, but I hope to make it something really special in the coming months.

Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by RaphiePS on Thursday March 21, 2013 @03:28PM (#5418181)
Ooh, if you're open to suggestions, my number one frustration with IRC goes like this: I'm connected and happily chatting, but then my Wifi blips and I'm disconnected. There's no chat log, so I don't know what I missed. And on crappy connections, this can happen pretty frequently.

I know there are programs that'll keep you online and collect chat logs even if you disconnect, but it seems ridiculous to have to set up a server just so I can chat.

If you fix this problem, I'd happily fork over at least $10/month, maybe more.

Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by Fauntleroy on Thursday March 21, 2013 @03:47PM (#5418346)
I have plans for something like that in the future, but first I'd like to perfect the client itself (a persistent connection would require a server).

For now you can always try out https://www.irccloud.com or https://github.com/thedjpetersen/subway

Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by glomph on Thursday March 21, 2013 @07:35PM (#5420158)
https://github.com/leedo/alice is another one. Used to be hosted but they stopped running it.
Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by guruz on Friday March 22, 2013 @04:37AM (#5421907)
During my time inside Trolltech/Nokia, everyone was on Freenode and our internal IRC server. A lot of people were connected through a client called Quassel [0] which is basically a distributed IRC client you can access from multiple machines (-> you'd host it on a server, it stores the backlog and everything else for you).

In my current startup we have the same (internal IRC server) and we also thought offering Quassel hosting [1] is a good idea.

[0] http://www.quassel-irc.org/

[1] http://quassel.woboq.com/

Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by StavrosK on Thursday March 21, 2013 @06:12PM (#5419550)
Shameless plug here as well, I'm developing something that will sort of solve that problem for channels you own: http://www.getinstabot.com
Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by shawn-butler on Thursday March 21, 2013 @05:00PM (#5418957)
There have been irc bots for as long as there has been IRC.

Eggdrop bot is a common one, open source, etc.

Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by OGC on Thursday March 21, 2013 @09:44PM (#5420835)
> I'm connected and happily chatting, but then my Wifi blips and I'm disconnected. There's no chat log, so I don't know what I missed. And on crappy connections, this can happen pretty frequently.

So a bouncer + web interface, huh? I'd better get to work..

Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by zwily on Thursday March 21, 2013 @03:00PM (#5417874)
I've been on the lookout for good web IRC interfaces for years. This looks promising. Thanks!
Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by aeosynth on Thursday March 21, 2013 @03:12PM (#5418023)
You could also try subway[1] and kiwiirc[2].

[1]: https://github.com/thedjpetersen/subway

[2]: https://github.com/prawnsalad/KiwiIRC

Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by Fauntleroy on Thursday March 21, 2013 @03:21PM (#5418125)
Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by cjstewart88 on Thursday March 21, 2013 @04:21PM (#5418643)
Thanks for the plug ;)
Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by lukes386 on Thursday March 21, 2013 @04:46PM (#5418856)
Just so you know, the "Give it a go" link in the README gives:

    An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by glomph on Thursday March 21, 2013 @07:36PM (#5420160)
Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by btipling on Thursday March 21, 2013 @05:50PM (#5419356)
If HipMunk used an IRC backend that would be pretty sweet.
Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by brittohalloran on Thursday March 21, 2013 @09:24PM (#5420748)
Hipchat, though hip Munk is also nice
Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by rogerbinns on Thursday March 21, 2013 @03:57PM (#5418416)
We use http://partychapp.appspot.com (it was recommended on a previous HN posting). We already used Google Talk for one on one chats so this just adds a group chat into that, and works really well. It also doesn't require additional clients, doing group chats differently than one on one, yet more usernames and passwords etc.
Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by Terretta on Saturday March 23, 2013 @01:47AM (#5427398)
Used to use this, then it was always down. Now use http://Jaconda.im. Always just works, has a convenient web interface as well for great room history.
Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by rogerbinns on Monday March 25, 2013 @06:44PM (#5440201)
We switched last night to Jaconda - thanks for the recommendation. While partychat never failed for us, it did prove limiting (eg no search) and seemed increasingly unmaintained (/commands not working). Jaconda also has Github integration which was nice.
Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by rogerbinns on Saturday March 23, 2013 @04:07PM (#5429567)
We've never had a problem with the former - always works and always up!
Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by Hello71 on Thursday March 21, 2013 @02:04PM (#5417446)
IRC has no chat history or unauthenticated access, apparently.
Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by shurcooL on Thursday March 21, 2013 @02:35PM (#5417707)
My friend was working on a web client for IRC [1] that provides a persistent connection (and hence chat history). I'm not sure if he's gonna finish it though.

[1] https://github.com/pavben/WebIRC

Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by pc86 on Thursday March 21, 2013 @04:37PM (#5418775)
Does (m)IRC have the ability to log everything? It's been a decade since I've used mIRC but I could have sworn I was able to save everything even back then.
Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by gknoy on Thursday March 21, 2013 @04:45PM (#5418846)
It certainly does. I'm pretty sure that almost every IRC client can do this, as can IM clients like Pidgin. (That reminds me: does Hipchat work well with Pidgin?)

edit: I think the difference on that chart, though, is that mIRC is a __client__, whereas I suspect that Hipchat's server also does logging -- so that you can see the chat log even if you were previously not connected. That's not something that is normally suported with IRC. You could roll your own with a custom client and server, I expect, but at that point you'd be investing probably more effort than it's worth.

Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by pc86 on Friday March 22, 2013 @07:50AM (#5422380)
That's an excellent point, they're probably referring to server-side, always-on-even-if-you're-not logging.
Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by mathrawka on Thursday March 21, 2013 @09:22PM (#5420739)
Sure, you can log anything you see... but if you are offline, you miss out.
Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by pbreit on Thursday March 21, 2013 @02:03PM (#5417429)
Why is it so hard to make IRC work decently for mortals?
Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by mehrzad on Thursday March 21, 2013 @07:39PM (#5420176)
FWIW, I set up a tutorial for my friends for IRC. If you explain it simply enough, it will work. I have 25+ of my friends on it now, most of whom not knowing what IRC was.
Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by ams6110 on Thursday March 21, 2013 @10:05PM (#5420915)
Because it was written by and for nerds.
Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by namityadav on Thursday March 21, 2013 @01:49PM (#5417300)
Do you mind sharing more details about your decision making process, the services/tools you are using as IRC hosts/clients, etc?
Re:HipChat is now free for teams of 5 users or fewer by ams6110 on Thursday March 21, 2013 @10:07PM (#5420919)
ejabberd and pidgen?