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Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by ElProlactin on Thursday November 12, 2026 @10:43PM (#50477963)
> The FBI has been investigating Huang’s affair for at least a year. But Attorney General Todd Blanche said on Thursday that there are still “no conclusions reached by the Department of Justice, or by me, or by [FBI] Director Patel around who she is or is not.

Just for context:

> In April 2023, Trump hired [Todd] Blanche to defend him for concealed hush-money payments to Stormy Daniels and he led Trump's defense in the 2024 criminal trial. Blanche later defended Trump in cases involving federal classified documents and election obstruction. In November 2024, following his victory in the 2024 presidential election, President-elect Donald Trump announced Blanche as his nominee for deputy attorney general. Blanche was confirmed by the Senate in March 2025.[1]

He defended Trump's White House media ban[2] and most recently threatened to prosecute Democrats planning oversight probes into the administration[3].

FBI Director Kash Patel, for anyone who doesn't already know, is a Trump loyalist who was a director of Trump Media & Technology Group and reportedly made over $500,000 from Trump's political campaign. It is literally insane that he is the director of anything in the government[4].

Bottom line: time will tell who Alice Huang really was, but given the reports that Trump was informed she might have been a spy a year ago and didn't act on it, you can't expect honesty from loyalists he put in law enforcement positions.

Sources:

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Blanche

[2] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/sep/27/todd-blanche...

[3] https://www.ms.now/news/todd-blanche-threat-prosecution-demo...

[4] https://www.cbc.ca/radio/frontburner/the-fbis-controversial-...

Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by submain on Thursday November 12, 2026 @10:55PM (#50478069)
Maybe his inaction was leverage? Could be that Jensen did something Trump didn’t like, so he pulled the trigger.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by ram1500natrluvr on Thursday November 12, 2026 @11:11PM (#50478198)
Trump claimed to blackmail an AI executive in his 60 Minutes interview.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by brycesub on Thursday November 12, 2026 @11:52PM (#50478500)
EXACTLY! I'm not sure why more people aren't putting this together. Pretty clear the person he was talking about was Jensen and they were holding this over him for the past year to get what they wanted out of him, probably front-running to enrich themselves.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by pigeons on Friday November 13, 2026 @01:23AM (#50479131)
The president has filed reports for then selling nvidia shares.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by paul7986 on Friday November 13, 2026 @12:39AM (#50478819)
Indeed he did https://www.threads.com/@carnage4life/post/Dfhghgum6yq/video... and so he was going to put this person (guessing it's Jensen) in jail then had a call with him. So he admits that (Jensen) did something illegal, but we will let it slide....
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by enoint on Friday November 13, 2026 @07:51AM (#50482791)
But he spouted some mush about guardrails and a wife; not chip export and a mistress.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by ElProlactin on Thursday November 12, 2026 @11:24PM (#50478306)
The problem with this theory is that Trump is one of the people who comes out looking bad here, and now that his party has lost the legislative branch, he's very vulnerable. You can be sure the Democrats are going to investigate what he knew, and when. According to The New York Times reporting, one of the reasons Trump didn't take action was that he didn't want to disrupt Nvidia's chip sales.

Recall that, in exchange for the US lifting export restrictions, Trump negotiated an agreement with Nvidia to receive 25% of the revenue from certain chip sales[1].

Trump prioritizing money over national security is not at all surprising.

There was some speculation that Rubio was the one who leaked this, as he had prepared a memo about Alice Huang that was presented to the president in May.

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/14/trump-nvidia-h200-china-ai-c...

Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by gizajob on Friday November 13, 2026 @01:22AM (#50479121)
The $7.5billion in alleged sales to china has removed a couple of trillion in value from the pension and investment funds of Americans this week, all for the infantile hubris and anti-competitive moves toward americas biggest trading partner. It needs to be clear that’s on Trump too, if it wasn’t already. Compromised or not, Jensen was right - sell them the chips and they won’t be forced to get them under the counter or develop their own.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by ElProlactin on Friday November 13, 2026 @01:53AM (#50479367)
> The $7.5billion in alleged sales to china has removed a couple of trillion in value from the pension and investment funds of Americans this week, all for the infantile hubris and anti-competitive moves toward americas biggest trading partner.

And how many trillions of dollars of wealth has been "removed" by American companies outsourcing their production to China over the past several decades, transferring their IP to Chinese entities through forced joint-ventures, outright IP theft, etc.?

By some estimates, the outright IP theft alone has caused $15 trillion in cumulative losses. According to the Commission on the Theft of American Intellectual Property, whose figures are used by the FBI and the Office of the US Trade Representative, IP theft costs American businesses somewhere between $225 and $600 billion every year, and much of that theft is at the hands of China.

Companies like Facebook and Google aren't allowed in the Chinese market. Do you find that "anti-competitive"?

Nobody is playing fair here and the notion that we can all just trade with each other equanimously is naive. The world isn't that kind and simple.

Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by hparadiz on Friday November 13, 2026 @03:52AM (#50480342)
You are completely wrong here and I suspect the American voter will agree with me. Selling the greatest inventions of American ingenuity and know how directly to a rival is the type of historical shooting yourself in the foot that will be studied for centuries. America has essentially built the internet, the microprocessor, gave it free to the world, then did the same with all the technologies since and what has an American got to show for it exactly? I'd much rather give every teenager in the entire country a 5090 for free than allow a single one to be sold overseas. In the 90s the feds were throwing money at schools to build computer labs even in poor school districts and now we've kinda just stopped giving our kids the latest and greatest and instead force them to compete with the world for hardware. It is too late now but this has been a generational fumble that will be studied for a long long time. We've essentially given away all our advantage to a country that was a backwater when the Intel microprocessor was invented. Frankly embarrassing that it has come to this.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by gizajob on Friday November 13, 2026 @04:05AM (#50480462)
The 5090 – and every other Nvidia GPU – is manufactured in Taiwan and dependent on equipment made in the Netherlands and Germany. If America could build them in the USA without total dependence on the rest of the world your argument might stand.

Taiwan was a similar backwater when the intel microprocessor was invented, yet they’ve clearly done the hard yards to do what the “American voter” had no appetite for.

Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by hparadiz on Friday November 13, 2026 @04:07AM (#50480473)
Yes that is the generational fumble I am talking about. None of that should have ever been allowed in the first place. And reality is proving my point. All this tech is going into every miltech drone now. We could have had a monopoly on that. Now American soldiers will be dodging drones powered by Nvidia GPUs.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by gizajob on Friday November 13, 2026 @04:10AM (#50480505)
Not in America they’re not. Maybe try not stomping all over the rest of the world and the drones won’t be a problem.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by NonHyloMorph on Friday November 13, 2026 @04:58AM (#50480987)
You don't understand. The technical lead of ASML and TSMC does not exist because "Americans allowed it". What they can do no one else can do. Aka: you Americams couldn't do it. Maybe it is, that some things don't grow well in a milieu of disregulated cut-throat capitalism.

(I'm thinking more of ASML (dutch) in the Netherlands here, who build the machines at the heart of the fabs (most of the knowhow for building those sits with taiwans tsmc, also for the fabs they build in the states) than of TSMC, since I don't really have to much of a clue of whats the culture in taiwan is like. But I assune theres a more tight-knit social fabric then there is in the states.

Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by hparadiz on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:28AM (#50481353)
Oh I understand very well and your comment is yet another example of the generational fumble I am talking about. It gives foreigners like you grand ideas about their part in the machine. Memory and chip fabs was considered a low margin business up until recently. We are not sleeping on this. Multiple new fabs are being built right now. We won't be making this mistake again.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by grim_io on Friday November 13, 2026 @06:12AM (#50481858)
There are no lessons learned in capitalism, there is only the next quarter's profit at the expense of everything else.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by thereader12 on Friday November 13, 2026 @04:43AM (#50480816)
Free is an interesting word to mean, "sold for money". Also while the US government funded part of the initial internet, both of your examples are private citizens creating something you wish we later restricted. GPU's are graphics processors too, it was too late any when they became useful a sort of general purpose workload chip.

We actually could give every teen a 5090 for free right now, no blocking trade agreements required.

Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by hparadiz on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:57AM (#50481692)
When I was a kid my school had a computer lab worth 200k in 1995 dollars. This was something very few kids had outside of the United States. None of them were locked down and we were encouraged to learn how to program them. Now we just throw some locked down $200 Chrome books at them and think that's gonna produce the next generation of tech innovation. In any case I wasn't talking about free as in commie.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by enoint on Friday November 13, 2026 @07:36AM (#50482650)
In 1995 you didn’t have: raspberry anything, flipper zero, qemu, commodity smartphones, mail-order circuit board fab—-and that’s just the stuff under $200.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by thereader12 on Friday November 13, 2026 @09:36AM (#50484134)
I think I missed what this annecdote means. Lots of countries had computers in 1995. I also don't understand what you mean by "not free as in commie". Do you mean soft power, we already get that, do you mean something other than resources (what money ultimately is)?
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by hardbass on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:25AM (#50481311)
The American voter can wish for anything, including wishing to get all the cheese from the moon. Wishing quite different from having the ability and infrastructure to actually do it, which nobody is stopping americans from doing already.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by Jamesbeam on Friday November 13, 2026 @06:37AM (#50482076)
> Compromised or not, Jensen was right – sell them the chips and they won’t be forced to get them under the counter or develop their own.

I disagree. China is only acquiring technology to copy the best parts and improve the rest. There are plenty of examples over the past decades.

They would never be a permanent customer of Nvidia, they would destroy Nvidia long term by offering better chips for cheaper, especially as they are going to take Taiwan in the near future.

Feel free to do some research about how china won the solar game, that would be your textbook example of how they are going to win AI.

They do this with cars, they did it with solar, they do it with weapons-grade tech.

It’s an absolute fever dream to think selling them chips would mean they wouldn’t get more under the counter and develop their own improved designs.

We are talking about a nation-state actor with unlimited pockets. They can go down all of these roads at the same time and if I were china and winning AI means winning everything, i would exactly that.

Using Jensen like a greedy prostitute to get the goods right from the source was just the easiest way to get those chips.

The collapse of Jensen is also strengthening China, they already have what they wanted, now he gets put in the trash so the US can no longer profit from his undeniable talents attracting investments into American AI domination.

Seriously, what is 4 or 7b to China?

Better than sending Chinese black ops to disappear a ship full of Nvidia chips and risk complications with another nation-state actor.

Why wouldn’t they take the way of least resistance which was through Jensens greed, ego and illoyalty to his wife?

China has a long-term plan, is extremely focused at accomplishing milestones and they are already ahead in almost every sector compared to the US of the past 20 years, that has become a political dumpster fire.

China is winning.

And the chips that Jensen allowed to move there will be used to accelerate the already working strategy in all of its aspects. He didn’t just fuck most of his company and partners as it seems, he fucked every American in existence.

Enough smart people in the US government have seen that, but they are dealing with a kleptocratic family and friends scheme that is selling their nation’s interests to enrich themselves. It is what it is.

Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by MiroslavPokorny on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:03PM (#50490586)
He isnt making money to help orphans or disabled kids or mothers of orphans or mothers of disabled orphans.

Jensen like Trump and his family is only helping number 1.

Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by ozim on Friday November 13, 2026 @03:47AM (#50480310)
My idea is that Trump threw Jensen under the bus to tank stock market because democrats won recently.

Trump followers are big on “Trump is good for stock market”. I think market already dipped when democrats won but now it is not a dip anymore, that’s quite a crash we have now.

Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by KaiserPro on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:29AM (#50481369)
But trump wouldn't be able to keep it a secret.

he's say something about it "hes a disgusting man, sold out nvidia and for what?" or something even less coherent

Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by onetimeusename on Thursday November 12, 2026 @11:10PM (#50478192)
>Trump was informed she might have been a spy a year ago and didn't act on it

You don't know that at all. It's not standard procedure to immediately publicly out possible spies. Lots of reasons why not to do that including not wanting to let adversaries know you know who their spies are or to use them to feed bad intel or for watching what the spy does.

Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by ElProlactin on Thursday November 12, 2026 @11:16PM (#50478237)
This is what has been reported, and Trump didn't dispute it when asked by the press.

As for "standard procedure" and counter-intelligence, who knows? I'm not a member of the intelligence community. Are you?

The point of my comment is that, to many laypeople, Trump's inaction doesn't look good and that creates an optics issue for him. "Why would he let a Chinese spy who was potentially trying to use Huang to influence the president's US-China policy stay close to him?"

Given how the administration operates, you can expect Trump's lackeys to spin the truth (if not lie) to make his actions look more favorable to the public.

Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by onetimeusename on Thursday November 12, 2026 @11:56PM (#50478534)
>Why would he let a Chinese spy who was potentially trying to use Huang to influence the president's US-China policy stay close to him

There's no evidence she influenced Jensen who influenced Trump who eased restrictions despite knowing she was a spy. Jensen has consistently been trying to relax restrictions for years, before they met, and others have made the same case Jensen has, that it's actually harmful to the US to restrict access and that a managed access strategy is better than a complete ban (and Trump said he would charge for it). She probably did what's called intelligence gathering.

Also, it's funny watching HN suddenly become hawkish on GPUs being shipped to China. Were you complaining about it back then or just now?

Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by ElProlactin on Friday November 13, 2026 @12:24AM (#50478716)
> There's no evidence she influenced Jensen who influenced Trump who eased restrictions despite knowing she was a spy.

Are you a member of the intelligence community? I'm not. This story is literally a week old. It's naive to think that all of the intelligence information the alphabet soup agencies have about Alice Huang and her relationship with Jensen, and how it might have compromised trade secrets, trade policy, etc. is going to be released to the public ASAP.

Most likely: we're never going to get the full story.

> Also, it's funny watching HN suddenly become hawkish on GPUs being shipped to China. Were you complaining about it back then or just now?

I used to live in Taiwan, so I know exactly what China is and the threat it poses.

Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by ImPostingOnHN on Friday November 13, 2026 @02:13AM (#50479529)
> There's no evidence she influenced Jensen who influenced Trump

There actually is, for both: 1) the chip sales to china, and 2) a $25,000,000 donation Jensen made to donald for his ballroom slush fund, which he tried to keep secret.

There is also evidence that donald kept this quiet in exchange for obedience and obeisance: he admitted it in an interview recently.

Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by EdwardDiego on Friday November 13, 2026 @01:36AM (#50479236)
Not to mention the Commerce Department continually dragging their heels on Megaspeed being added to the export blacklist despite being requested to by US intelligence agencies.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang by Ungrim on Friday November 13, 2026 @12:03PM (#50486377)
Singapore also forbid her from returning to the country and only dropped the investigation because US law enforcement did not respond to their requests for assistance. This was reported by Reuters.