Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang
by hparadiz on Friday November 13, 2026 @03:52AM
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You are completely wrong here and I suspect the American voter will agree with me. Selling the greatest inventions of American ingenuity and know how directly to a rival is the type of historical shooting yourself in the foot that will be studied for centuries. America has essentially built the internet, the microprocessor, gave it free to the world, then did the same with all the technologies since and what has an American got to show for it exactly? I'd much rather give every teenager in the entire country a 5090 for free than allow a single one to be sold overseas. In the 90s the feds were throwing money at schools to build computer labs even in poor school districts and now we've kinda just stopped giving our kids the latest and greatest and instead force them to compete with the world for hardware. It is too late now but this has been a generational fumble that will be studied for a long long time. We've essentially given away all our advantage to a country that was a backwater when the Intel microprocessor was invented. Frankly embarrassing that it has come to this.
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Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang
by gizajob on Friday November 13, 2026 @04:05AM
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The 5090 – and every other Nvidia GPU – is manufactured in Taiwan and dependent on equipment made in the Netherlands and Germany. If America could build them in the USA without total dependence on the rest of the world your argument might stand.
Taiwan was a similar backwater when the intel microprocessor was invented, yet they’ve clearly done the hard yards to do what the “American voter” had no appetite for.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang
by hparadiz on Friday November 13, 2026 @04:07AM
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Yes that is the generational fumble I am talking about. None of that should have ever been allowed in the first place. And reality is proving my point. All this tech is going into every miltech drone now. We could have had a monopoly on that. Now American soldiers will be dodging drones powered by Nvidia GPUs.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang
by gizajob on Friday November 13, 2026 @04:10AM
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Not in America they’re not. Maybe try not stomping all over the rest of the world and the drones won’t be a problem.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang
by NonHyloMorph on Friday November 13, 2026 @04:58AM
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You don't understand. The technical lead of ASML and TSMC does not exist because "Americans allowed it". What they can do no one else can do. Aka: you Americams couldn't do it. Maybe it is, that some things don't grow well in a milieu of disregulated cut-throat capitalism.
(I'm thinking more of ASML (dutch) in the Netherlands here, who build the machines at the heart of the fabs (most of the knowhow for building those sits with taiwans tsmc, also for the fabs they build in the states) than of TSMC, since I don't really have to much of a clue of whats the culture in taiwan is like. But I assune theres a more tight-knit social fabric then there is in the states.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang
by hparadiz on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:28AM
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Oh I understand very well and your comment is yet another example of the generational fumble I am talking about. It gives foreigners like you grand ideas about their part in the machine. Memory and chip fabs was considered a low margin business up until recently. We are not sleeping on this. Multiple new fabs are being built right now. We won't be making this mistake again.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang
by grim_io on Friday November 13, 2026 @06:12AM
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There are no lessons learned in capitalism, there is only the next quarter's profit at the expense of everything else.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang
by thereader12 on Friday November 13, 2026 @04:43AM
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Free is an interesting word to mean, "sold for money". Also while the US government funded part of the initial internet, both of your examples are private citizens creating something you wish we later restricted. GPU's are graphics processors too, it was too late any when they became useful a sort of general purpose workload chip.
We actually could give every teen a 5090 for free right now, no blocking trade agreements required.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang
by hparadiz on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:57AM
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When I was a kid my school had a computer lab worth 200k in 1995 dollars. This was something very few kids had outside of the United States. None of them were locked down and we were encouraged to learn how to program them. Now we just throw some locked down $200 Chrome books at them and think that's gonna produce the next generation of tech innovation. In any case I wasn't talking about free as in commie.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang
by enoint on Friday November 13, 2026 @07:36AM
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In 1995 you didn’t have: raspberry anything, flipper zero, qemu, commodity smartphones, mail-order circuit board fab—-and that’s just the stuff under $200.
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang
by thereader12 on Friday November 13, 2026 @09:36AM
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I think I missed what this annecdote means. Lots of countries had computers in 1995.
I also don't understand what you mean by "not free as in commie". Do you mean soft power, we already get that, do you mean something other than resources (what money ultimately is)?
Re:Nvidia employees petition to bring back Jensen Huang
by hardbass on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:25AM
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The American voter can wish for anything, including wishing to get all the cheese from the moon. Wishing quite different from having the ability and infrastructure to actually do it, which nobody is stopping americans from doing already.