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Re:Resisting Cognitive Surrender on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @03:23AM (#50349449)
This but for building houses would be the dream.
Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @03:14AM (#50349387)
Yes, I acknowledge various gods daily such as when I say I acknowledge the help of another developer or artist etc. Obviously I think acknowledging someones support means they are god.
Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @03:12AM (#50349365)
The natural sciences as they always do keep removing the gaps where magic or supernatural hides in. Many people sre unable to swuare with the fact that human brains are physical systems.
Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @03:06AM (#50349330)
Ai is bringing out naked dualism and magical supernatural thinking in a lot of otherwise reasonable people.
Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @03:05AM (#50349323)
I don't understand how making policies based on the truth is wrong. What did you mean by that?
General public is using AI by the huge masses. Public says many things, such as that they don't watch porn or they believe in Jesus over medicine, then public has porn usage stats and religious public rushes to hospitals for everything.
Re:Mathematics has changed. Let's act like it on Monday November 02, 2026 @10:55AM (#50338606)
Its necessary to clarify. AI somehow brings up strange religious beliefs like souls and dualism in many people earnestly.
Re:Mathematics has changed. Let's act like it on Monday November 02, 2026 @03:27AM (#50334354)
I am waiting for his answer.
Re:Mathematics has changed. Let's act like it on Monday November 02, 2026 @03:11AM (#50334271)
This hangup on sensory data is weird. Sensory data is just like any other signal and can be fed.
Re:Mathematics has changed. Let's act like it on Monday November 02, 2026 @02:42AM (#50334120)
Posing problems is often easier thwn solving them, so yes? Fermats last theorem is posed in two lines. Took 300 years and massive advances in geometry to solve.
Re:Mathematics has changed. Let's act like it on Monday November 02, 2026 @02:38AM (#50334098)
Poland is growing a lot. The Soviet block countries were big on math.
Re:Mathematics has changed. Let's act like it on Monday November 02, 2026 @02:33AM (#50334074)
Won't be surprised if he believes in literal souls but I am waiting to see what he says.
Re:Mathematics has changed. Let's act like it on Monday November 02, 2026 @02:32AM (#50334061)
What do you mean by "souls" here?
I don't know who these scientists are, and there is paywall halfway up the article, and the last line I see is "brains are .... not just computers made of meat". I hope they clarify this later on, because on its face this sentence sounds absurd. Brains like all things in the universe are Turing computers.
Its not just about size or being an exact replica of human brains, many other brains exist in the world. There is reason to be conscious we might have invented another.
What does that have to do with anything? The person above was demanding special rights for some groups. Thats absolute nonsense. All the rights we have apply to everyone in the country. What does that have to do with other laws and rights in other countries? Nobody within a country should have special rights that are not applicable to other citizens of the same country.
I think we will differ in that I think essentially a "brain in a box" is in fact possible if we feed the same chemical and electrical signals as the brain in a body experiences and it will be as real to it as for a brain in the body. Likewise I think llms are almost certainly in some way a brain in a box in this sense.

In any case, at least I am okay with the acknowledgment of humans and human brains being physical systems. Unfortunately getting even a straight acknowledgement of this fact seems hard for many.

As far as I am aware, it only requires a probabilistic Turing machine, which is the same as a normal Turing machine (or a quantum computer) in terms of what it can compute.

Ultra precise simulation like that isn't in any case necessary, after all humans can create humans without needing 40 digit decimal places. Or create cars or computers etc without simulating everything down to each electron.

How exactly do you propose to share the benefits? Do you think only "billionaires" should distribute their money? If you are middle class American you already are in the 1% or 0.1% worldwide. How much of your money are you distributing to African countries? People clamor for "distribution" until it comes to themselves.
I am saying this so called "honest" adjective is made up to falsely glorify certain jobs and insult other jobs.
Is your view that for any task not seen before we must first ask permission or legal clarification before doing it?
If not cars, whatever suitable existing legislation or classification or if needed a new regulation to make this sensible. Millions of people benefit from fast delivery, so something has to be decided, either rules of interaction with pedestrians or new tracks for these robots or anything else.
I just don't understand how some people think. THey seem to think in terms of positive rights, ie any new type of action is something that you ask permission for. I never heard this anywhere, at least most legal systems are based on the negative view being the default. These same people would then whine their drone hobby got banned or they are not allowed to fix their car in their backyard.
Many useful things could kill jobs, yes. That's not a meaningful argument in itself.
The set of machines allowed on sidewalks is a very small set. It has nothing to do with participating in soceity or not.
But you are also not understanding my point. What automation or tech will end up useful and a "noble" use later on is never immediately obvious, it depends on a web of past developments which by themselves seem to have no connection.
Ok, at least she is not a hypocrite.
Of course, then these persons should avoid using electric drills, bldc motors, digital verniers etc as these tools required computers and motors that were created out of mathematical and engineering curiosity such as developing the electromagnetic theory not out of value for society to work. Since somehow the act of using this machine is more "honest" than creating this amazing machine in the first place.
Ok, why isn't she protesting other machines like bicycles allowed on sidewalks?
Its never immediately obvious. Computers put thousands of human calculators out of jobs. Now computers superpowered any and all physical modeling, molecule searches, etc. But, should we have decided eg astronomers or microscopists are required to have jobs, then we wouldn't have developed automated high quality optics, which themselves were required to commoditize computers. Almost all technologies somehow play a role directly or indirectly that existed before a new one for any new advance.

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