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Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by hammock on Monday November 09, 2026 @09:02PM (#50435148)
Some would say it’s the unfunded pensions that are the phony accounting
Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by not2b on Monday November 09, 2026 @09:29PM (#50435359)
No one else had to set aside money 75 years in advance, for a debt not due for 75 years. That's not legitimate accounting.
Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by NavinF on Monday November 09, 2026 @10:04PM (#50435573)
"Contrary to statements made by some employee groups and other stakeholders, PAEA did not require USPS to prefund 75 years of retiree health benefits over a 10-year period." https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-13-112.pdf

Also the 2022 Postal Service Reform Act eliminated the prefunding and ~$57 billion of overdue payments, but USPS finances were still dogshit afterwards: USPS revenue was $80 billion and expenses were $89 billion in FY2024

Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by michaelchisari on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @12:51AM (#50436576)
$9 billion was 0.073% of total federal spending in FY2024.

Small price to pay for something as extraordinary as the USPS.

Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by mullingitover on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @01:45AM (#50436890)
I don’t think of their finances as being dogshit because there aren’t revenue positive. It’s a fraction of a sliver of the federal budget to run a constitutionally mandated service.

The (non-navy) military has no constitutional mandate at all, it’s an industrial scale cash incineration device which the postal service can’t hold a candle to, and we don’t blink at it wasting 10x or more of the postal service’s opex.

Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by NavinF on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @05:53AM (#50438522)
Would you allow other companies to deliver letters and to deliver stuff inside mailboxes? I find it disgusting that a company with a monopoly on those two services still can't make a profit.
Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by wavefunction on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @07:56AM (#50439674)
Someone just bringing whatever shit they want to my house? Junkmail needs to be deregulated? Everytime I hear the "notions" of the libertarian/hypercapitalist ilk it just sounds like "What if your life could be even shittier than it is now?!?"
Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by doikor on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @08:15AM (#50439857)
It can’t make profit because USPS is not allowed to set the prices of its services.
Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by lovich on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @05:05PM (#50446935)
They also have to deliver to every valid residential address.

You wouldn’t see UPS or fedex running a mule train to make sure an area still gets mail[1]

If we let other companies take over and kill the USPS we’ll just see a ton of areas of the country not get delivered too because the profit margin isn’t there.

[1] https://facts.usps.com/8-mile-mule-train-delivery/

Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by velcrovan on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @11:08AM (#50442325)
Public services don’t exist to make a profit.

The finances of your police and fire departments, your libraries and public schools, and the military, are all “dogshit” by this absurd reasoning.

Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by prepend on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @07:16AM (#50439246)
Yes. Organizations must fund pensions up front and not rely on future revenue to make up for shortfalls.

It’s weird how people bring this up. It was very unusual for the usps not to have to set aside money now to pay for pensions in the future.

Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by BrianGragg on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @11:58AM (#50443035)
>Yes. Organizations must fund pensions up front and not rely on future revenue to make up for shortfalls.

What? Maybe my reading comprehension is a little off this morning but are you saying a company offering a pension plan must set aside hundreds of thousands of dollars day 1 every time they hire a new employee?.... That math doesn't math.

Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by hammock on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @09:26PM (#50462296)
Day 1 employees are not entitled to hundreds of thousands in a pension. What do you mean?
Re:USPS now offers official ZIP Code boundary polygons by sidewndr46 on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @07:00AM (#50452401)
75 years in advance? Does a 16 year old expect to retire at 92 ?