News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Ballot Rejections Have Soared in Rural Counties as USPS R... by hedora on Monday November 02, 2026 @03:00PM (#50342803)
It's almost like the republicans would be better off if they paid attention to their constitutional duties instead of just burning things down.

This will clearly hurt them in statewide elections, but I wonder how it plays out in local rural elections. I can imagine the rejected ballots leaning more blue than average in heavily red areas.

I can also imagine the opposite: Older folks have less mobility on average, and are probably more likely to mail the ballots in. The Propublica article doesn't say anything about this, but I imagine some election officials track it.

Their ID requirements in Ohio blew back a similar way a few years ago. They made it extremely hard to vote without a driver's license, thinking it'd hit college kids, but it mostly hit retirees that no longer drive.

Re:Ballot Rejections Have Soared in Rural Counties as USPS R... by elmer2 on Monday November 02, 2026 @04:06PM (#50343755)
"Their ID requirements in Ohio blew back a similar way a few years ago. They made it extremely hard to vote without a driver's license, thinking it'd hit college kids, but it mostly hit retirees that no longer drive."

This just isn't true and has never been true. You can see the requirements here:

https://www.ohiosos.gov/elections/voter-ID-requirements

I'm not sure when you are talking about, but I have family that's voted in Ohio for decades and this was never an issue.

"It's almost like the republicans would be better off if they paid attention to their constitutional duties instead of just burning things down."

The problem is that Democrats won't do ANYTHING to stop potential cheating and then act dumb when you bring up actual ways to exploit the system.

Example one: Ballot harvesting. Judges allowed ballot harvesting in many states leading up to the Trump election, even though it is illegal. They also ignored signature verification rules during this time.

Example two: Voter ID. In every country in the world, you need ID to vote. Democrats have pushed to completely remove it for years.

Example three: Mail-in voting. Mail-in voting is fine. It should be setup so you need to request it for each election. It's too easy to get ballots for people that never wanted to vote in the first place and send it in. Reddit and social media have made it pretty easy to coordinate with strangers.

Example four: We've had a decade of voting machine vulnerabilities and exploits at Def Con and somehow all of the leading security researchers ignored this and/or removed mention of it on social media after the 2020 election. I witnessed Tweets getting deleted in realtime.

Trump originally proposed sane and reasonable protections, and those were squashed by Democrats. This is the result.

Ignoring these problems isn't helping our Democracy, even though you somehow think it gives your side an advantage.

Re:Ballot Rejections Have Soared in Rural Counties as USPS R... by mikestew on Monday November 02, 2026 @04:25PM (#50343992)
Ah, the "rampant voter fraud" narrative. Which has been disproven time and again, including when Republicans go looking for it (see: Arizona).
Re:Ballot Rejections Have Soared in Rural Counties as USPS R... by netsharc on Monday November 02, 2026 @05:25PM (#50344831)
It's always funny to me how it feels like no one applies critical thinking when it's their "team" making the argument. By "no one" I mean "no one Republican".

If Trump lost by 200000 votes and claimed "There were 210000 illegal votes!", wouldn't it be easy to present at least one? But they'd scrape the bottom of the barrel of "evidence" in court for one count of fraud...

And Donnie, if you knew the exact number (which is oddly the number you lost by, plus a little bit), doesn't that mean you tallied all the fraudulent votes, well, where's the list then?

Re:Ballot Rejections Have Soared in Rural Counties as USPS R... by atmavatar on Monday November 02, 2026 @05:47PM (#50345125)
Unfortunately, it's a well-known psychological phenomenon that many (most?) people will start to believe a statement they hear repeatedly.

Before the 2020 election Trump primed his base by claiming over and over again that he could only lose if the election was rigged. Then, immediately after the 2020 election results were tallied, he and every right-wing media outlet spent the bulk of their airtime announcing that the election was stolen. It comes as no surprise that a significant fraction of the Republican voter base started to believe it was true, despite multiple investigations and dozens of court challenges about fraudulent votes failing to produce any evidence.

It's also not surprising that a significant fraction of the Republican base believes election fraud in general is rampant, which conveniently allowed Republican legislatures to make sweeping changes to how future elections would be held... like their standard voter suppression fare of closing polling locations, removing large blocks of voter registrations without notice, slowing processing of mail-in ballots and changing the rules regarding postmarks and late ballots, adding ID requirements, and, in some cases, revoking the validity of existing IDs.

All while the reality is that only around 1:10^6 votes are ever substantiated as fraudulent (e.g., Arizona has proven 36 cases of voter fraud among 42 million votes cast over the last 25 years).

See: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/how-widespread-is-electio...

Re:Ballot Rejections Have Soared in Rural Counties as USPS R... by jhbadger on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @06:26AM (#50350643)
Remember, Trump was mentored by Roy Cohn, who had been Joseph McCarthy's chief counsel in the 1950's. And McCarthy was famous for waving around "lists of known Communists" in the government and never actually showing them to anyone who could prove or disprove the claim.
Re:Ballot Rejections Have Soared in Rural Counties as USPS R... by zarify on Monday November 02, 2026 @04:10PM (#50343820)
> Example two: Voter ID. In every country in the world, you need ID to vote. Democrats have pushed to completely remove it for years.

Would just like to point out that here in .au you don’t need ID to vote (as in to show up and cast your vote, not talking about registering).

Re:Ballot Rejections Have Soared in Rural Counties as USPS R... by amanaplanacanal on Monday November 02, 2026 @04:30PM (#50344066)
Is also like to point out that in other countries the national government issues ID to their citizens. The US doesn't have anything like that.
Re:Ballot Rejections Have Soared in Rural Counties as USPS R... by t0mpr1c3 on Monday November 02, 2026 @05:23PM (#50344799)
You also don't need ID to vote in Britain, which like USA does not issue mandatory ID cards (at least not yet).
Re:Ballot Rejections Have Soared in Rural Counties as USPS R... by expedition32 on Monday November 02, 2026 @04:14PM (#50343854)
Voter ID was an issue in my country. By law everyone has to carry valid ID on them at all times.

But it is considered vital that every citizen gets the chance to vote including homeless people so they had to find a compromise. Although ofcourse the number of hobos who want to vote is largely theoretical.

Re:Ballot Rejections Have Soared in Rural Counties as USPS R... by mrktf on Monday November 02, 2026 @04:38PM (#50344173)
In my country that group of people is surprisingly active voters (where I live there a lot of discounts for disadvantaged people to get ID - hard part is queue in migration office) and coincidentally there good people which organizes buses to make easier travel for vote.../s On more serious note is very open secret especially in small counties .
Re:Ballot Rejections Have Soared in Rural Counties as USPS R... by Danox on Monday November 02, 2026 @04:47PM (#50344306)
Most of the cheating historically happens in the American South and that cheating, making it harder for people to vote continues to be a time-honored tradition in that part of the United States still.

Donald Trump and the current Republican Party does not care about anything other than winning at all cost. And if they don’t win, they will cry like Little Lord Fauntleroy.

Re:Ballot Rejections Have Soared in Rural Counties as USPS R... by graemep on Monday November 02, 2026 @04:50PM (#50344336)
I am appalled by that comment. Cedric, Lord Fauntleroy does not cry!
Re:Ballot Rejections Have Soared in Rural Counties as USPS R... by t0mpr1c3 on Monday November 02, 2026 @05:26PM (#50344860)
How about you recognize that historically the most important voting problem in the USA, by far, has been voter suppression -- which is increased by voter ID mandates?
Re:Ballot Rejections Have Soared in Rural Counties as USPS R... by actionfromafar on Monday November 02, 2026 @05:28PM (#50344882)
I think the plan is to declare all Democratic wins as false and go from there. To give that some veneer of respectability, they need to sow some distrust beforehand. The ID requirements serve that purpose well, if nothing else.
Re:Ballot Rejections Have Soared in Rural Counties as USPS R... by AnimalMuppet on Monday November 02, 2026 @10:08PM (#50347539)
I fear that you are right. To me, it feels like 2020 - the same laying the groundwork for disputing the election. It's too early to tell how far it will go this time.
Re:Ballot Rejections Have Soared in Rural Counties as USPS R... by dude187 on Monday November 02, 2026 @10:45PM (#50347803)
That's simply not true. You do need an ID, as is to be expected, but a state ID is equally valid as is a passport. It's not "extremely hard" to show your ID. https://www.ohiosos.gov/elections/voter-ID-requirements

I just voted early in Ohio a few days ago and that same list is hanging from the wall, no drivers license needed

Re:Ballot Rejections Have Soared in Rural Counties as USPS R... by lokar on Monday November 02, 2026 @11:50PM (#50348222)
Most people don’t have passports. Lots of older people have their licenses expire and don’t renew them.