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Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by netsharc on Saturday October 24, 2026 @07:13AM (#50220165)
Well, whoever picked the name HTTP2Shell certainly didn't use any intelligence, artificial or genuine.

It's so meaningless, broad and undescriptive of the actual issue. No it probably doesn't affect an HTTP server with nothing else behind it, so why is HTTP being blasted?

You might as well call it Exploit Pro Max...

Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by CharlieDigital on Saturday October 24, 2026 @07:17AM (#50220197)
Feels like the goal was sensationalism.
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by cromka on Saturday October 24, 2026 @07:17PM (#50226460)
Something that OpenAI would coin. Just like Anthropic did with Mythos.
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by reddozen on Saturday October 24, 2026 @07:51AM (#50220405)
The author clearly used super intelligence.
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by Stitch4223 on Saturday October 24, 2026 @09:30PM (#50227334)
You and I, my friend, are the only ones in this thread not being sent to work in the glitter mines of south Arkansas as enemies of God's Country. SI has the best names, other intelligence is vastly inferior, using it is worse than many schisms of -isms combined.
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by techpression on Saturday October 24, 2026 @08:00AM (#50220463)
I immediately thought HTTP/2 was having a bad day somehow. Might I suggest Software2Shell to be less confusing.
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by CharlieDigital on Saturday October 24, 2026 @08:14AM (#50220541)
Specifically Brotli2Shell
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by photios on Saturday October 24, 2026 @08:50AM (#50220777)
google2shell would have been nice :D
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by anilakar on Saturday October 24, 2026 @09:23AM (#50221018)
Alt-tabbing from browser to terminal and back has always felt exhausting. Nice.
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by devsda on Saturday October 24, 2026 @10:20AM (#50221493)
With ad served malware, this wouldn't be the first time though :)
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by groundzeros2015 on Saturday October 24, 2026 @10:20AM (#50221485)
All these names are silly. It's just marketing.
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by sigmarule on Saturday October 24, 2026 @10:52AM (#50221847)
There are levels of silliness, and this has achieved a new one.
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by cowlevel on Saturday October 24, 2026 @10:32AM (#50221622)
Actually it does, if the server is willing to decompress POST bodies.
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by croes on Saturday October 24, 2026 @10:43AM (#50221743)
Brotli bodies, so Brotli2Shell
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by SkiFire13 on Sunday October 25, 2026 @03:09AM (#50229064)
And only those using Google's Brotli implementation.
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by jwilk on Sunday October 25, 2026 @05:37AM (#50229752)
What are the other implementations?
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by Rapzid on Saturday October 24, 2026 @10:39AM (#50221690)
I think we've all seen where an LLM names a session, issue, or PR based on its early understanding and fails update it later.

AI isn't being asked to review the title, and it doesn't have experience or think, so of course it's not going to flag it.

No human reviews anything anymore so of course they aren't going to catch it.

Edit: AI for as good as it is at "writing" is terrible at writing and particularly at naming things. I had an AI name a client OpenAICompatibleEmbeddingClient. "Brooooo.. I think "compatible" is implied, who names stuff like that?!"

Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by rmaxdev on Saturday October 24, 2026 @01:58PM (#50223587)
LLM-based AI is a synthesis of human observed behavior
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by PalmPilotProMax on Saturday October 24, 2026 @07:58PM (#50226747)
But does it bring synergy with our current paradigm?
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by lifeisloving on Saturday October 24, 2026 @04:01PM (#50224592)
Descriptive type names are a good thing. Id argue that one isnt that bad, but llms do take it to another level sometimes.
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by rafram on Saturday October 24, 2026 @04:41PM (#50225027)
That means that it supports other services with OpenAI-compatible embeddings APIs (not just OpenAI's own API). Seems reasonable!
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by Rapzid on Saturday October 24, 2026 @09:56PM (#50227502)
Fortunately I didn't ask it for excuses and so it didn't give them like a pedantic junior on the spectrum.

Which they will happily do if you ask them "why" they did something. 100% they will give their best "well actually" impression.

Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by ketzu on Sunday October 25, 2026 @05:31AM (#50229721)
`OpenAICompatible` is also a widely used phrasal description of a part/version of the OpenAI API that is supported by quite a lot of endpoints.

- https://lmstudio.ai/docs/developer/openai-compat

I've seen that used as a description for 2years or so.

Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by rererereferred on Saturday October 24, 2026 @10:45AM (#50221764)
Just call it CVE-2026-111497. More accurate and much easier to remember and to talk about with your boss.
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by N19PEDL2 on Saturday October 24, 2026 @11:16AM (#50222107)
Or EUVD-2026-108169.
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by kevincox on Saturday October 24, 2026 @06:50PM (#50226227)
I can maybe remember CVE-2026. But there is no way I can remember 6 random digits.
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by ygjb on Saturday October 24, 2026 @07:58PM (#50226748)
Yeah, because the six number chunk is near the limit of recall. Don't remember CVE-2026 since the year and CVE can be reconstructed from time memory. You know it came up this year. Remember that vuln 111-497 (as two chunks) came out this year, and remembering two short chunks is easier.
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by latexr on Sunday October 25, 2026 @10:26AM (#50231939)
I don’t know why you’d want to remember the number, but this one seems easy if you know some memory techniques.

> Remember that vuln 111-497 (as two chunks)

Good first step. Remember it’s two sets of three numbers. The first set is all ones, meaning the first three numbers are 1, then the fourth number is 4, then you add five for the next one (9), then you have to remember to subtract two (7)¹.

May sound silly, but I bet some of you have already memorised it from that alone. Being a slightly convoluted by still logical set-by-step helps with recollection.

¹ Lot of different ways to go about that, like remembering that the first set was three of one so “two was left out”.

Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by vanschelven on Sunday October 25, 2026 @08:31AM (#50230867)
Fun fact: not even Google can remember that number on the first try, apparently:

https://github.com/google/brotli/issues/1597

Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by TZubiri on Saturday October 24, 2026 @12:43PM (#50222941)
It looks like marketing HTTP2Shell seems to appeal to everyone that uses HTTP, while Brotli2Shell might not wake up people that know what it is.

Now, whether it's warranted or not, that's another matter, but they know how to appeal for maximum awareness/interaction.

Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by hulitu on Sunday October 25, 2026 @07:01AM (#50230329)
> while Brotli2Shell might not wake up people that know what it is.

And, most of all, is damaging to Google, which are the master of software engineering. /s

Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by super256 on Saturday October 24, 2026 @08:40PM (#50227023)
A better name is Konduktsemmel, which is a bread roll (Semmel) which you eat on a funeral (Kondukt) in Austria. Fits to Brotli, doesn't it?

(Actually you eat cake and drink coffee on a funeral, but it's still called like that in some parts of Austria.)

Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by cowlevel on Sunday October 25, 2026 @09:55AM (#50231638)
A better name is Fred, because
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by super256 on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @06:19AM (#50350592)
[delayed]
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by vanschelven on Sunday October 25, 2026 @07:34AM (#50230531)
Should have definitely been Brotli2Shell, but Google ingeniously managed to dodge that bullet by having NodeJS come out with a fix before they did (others might call that accidental exposure), and then barely communicating about that with the broader community once they finally did. Here's a timeline of events[0] and here's me more broadly complaining about Google's stance[1]

[0] https://www.bugsink.com/blog/http2shell-timeline/

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50230362

Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by francisduvivier on Sunday October 25, 2026 @11:38AM (#50232718)
Bro2Shell sounds better though
Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by DaSHacka on Sunday October 25, 2026 @11:42AM (#50232766)
It will never not amuse me that Mozilla changed the Brotli extension to avoid this very connotation

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366559#c147

Re:Node2Shell evolves to HTTP2Shell, blast radius affects ma... by llm_nerd on Sunday October 25, 2026 @08:38AM (#50230927)
I mean...who cares? It's actually kind of strange that your comment got others talking about AI naming things.

SQL Slammer didn't actually slam anything, and applied to a single vendor among many SQL providers. Heartbleed didn't make anyone's heart bleed...I mean, at least directly. Shellshock only impacted a single shell environment, again among many. Log4Shell impacted a single logging implementation, among many. Spectre and Meltdown...I mean, who would think that related to CPU cache side channels?

These are just dumb names for people to share in referring to something. Seems silly and like a waste of time to spend effort getting upset about them.