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Re:David Rudnick on "borderline impossible" process of desig... by RobotToaster on Thursday October 15, 2026 @04:11AM (#50100749)
Is it me or are typeface designers some of the most pretentious people in tech? And that's a really high bar.
Re:David Rudnick on "borderline impossible" process of desig... by stoneman24 on Thursday October 15, 2026 @06:02AM (#50101488)
Yep, reading the article just revealed the designer’s self centred view of the project.

Surely the design aims, the evolution of the typeface and how it meets those aims are more important.

I do have good vision but for me (sample size 1) it’s really hard to read (especially the riband variant). How does it look for people in different environments ?. Is the aim to look iconic rather than communicate information.

I wish Arsenal well as my father was huge fan and would always look for the results.

Re:David Rudnick on "borderline impossible" process of desig... by whywhywhywhy on Thursday October 15, 2026 @07:37AM (#50102235)
I’d argue they’re not really in tech.
Re:David Rudnick on "borderline impossible" process of desig... by estearum on Thursday October 15, 2026 @08:27AM (#50102669)
Yeah typeface design is a deep craft that predates anything we'd call "tech" by centuries.
Re:David Rudnick on "borderline impossible" process of desig... by dofm on Thursday October 15, 2026 @09:59AM (#50103809)
You can make a credible argument that typefaces are the original information technology: the first technology that encoded and distributed information and whose coding limitations changed the shape of the information itself.

(Not least on the basis that they changed the requirements of paper, which before typefaces was a rather more ad-hoc, per-project process)

Re:David Rudnick on "borderline impossible" process of desig... by Fraterkes on Thursday October 15, 2026 @08:11AM (#50102531)
Most typeface designers are pretty normal (excepting their choice of one of the most simultaneously precarious and work-intensive creative careers). David Rudnick is (in my and many others opinion) infamously pretentious. He is a prolific designer though, and even many people who dislike his work acknowledge that he's quite good at what he does.
Re:David Rudnick on "borderline impossible" process of desig... by dzonga on Thursday October 15, 2026 @03:43PM (#50109208)
yeah pretentious bunch. but can't lie though that typeface reflects the history of the club. I say that even if I don't support the gunners.
Re:David Rudnick on "borderline impossible" process of desig... by pndy on Thursday October 15, 2026 @08:27AM (#50102672)
Dug out these discussions for your amusement; might shed additional light on this:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36719987

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19756123

Re:David Rudnick on "borderline impossible" process of desig... by tyrabound on Thursday October 15, 2026 @08:42AM (#50102819)
That is indeed a really high bar I don’t think they meet. I don’t see them pitching some nonsense as a multibillion dollar investment opportunity.

I think they’re just doing what is smart, talking about what they contribute and what their craft is, because underlying it all, the truth is they design for legal reasons, because you can only trademark your brand that is a word, which you want to license for merchandising to sell to the mindless sports masses, if you also own the typeface. You can’t really trademark or copyright Arsenal the word written in Times New Roman.

Re:David Rudnick on "borderline impossible" process of desig... by chirau on Thursday October 15, 2026 @09:05AM (#50103098)
I remember watching a whole documentary about Helvetica.

Font people, logo designers and sushi makers.

Re:David Rudnick on "borderline impossible" process of desig... by brookst on Thursday October 15, 2026 @09:33AM (#50103465)
That’s not “a whole documentary”, it’s a spectacular documentary.

Documentary films are like nonfiction books: any subject can be fascinating when done well, any subject can be awful and banal when done poorly. I’m not even a huge non-fiction / documentary fan but I’ll die on the hill that telling true stories with depth and passion is much harder than doing great fiction.

Re:David Rudnick on "borderline impossible" process of desig... by chirau on Thursday October 15, 2026 @10:27PM (#50113172)
My point was not aimed at the documentary itself, but rather the over glorification of things, in this case typefaces as the OP was referring to.

Jiro Dreams of Sushi was a beautiful documentary as well, but clearly sushi was being put on some divine pedestal. That is the 'over-the-top' part I am referring to.

Re:David Rudnick on "borderline impossible" process of desig... by brookst on Thursday October 15, 2026 @11:49PM (#50113843)
Respectfully, I think you're missing the point of these documentaries.

Both Helvetica and Jiro Dreams of Sushi are trying to communicate, to you, the passion that these other people feel for the work they do.

They're not telling you that you should care that much about fonts or sushi. There is no claim if divinity. They're honestly trying to give you a 90 minute glimpse of the interior life of other people.

There are other documentaries that are much more neutral or even dismissive of their subjects, if that's more your taste. Hospital and City Hall are great examples with no editorial cast. Riligulous and Roger & Me are great examples of a documentarian trying hard to have no empathy.

Re:David Rudnick on "borderline impossible" process of desig... by walthamstow on Thursday October 15, 2026 @09:12AM (#50103174)
To be fair, the same guy also made a really great documentary about urbanism as part of that trilogy
Re:David Rudnick on "borderline impossible" process of desig... by micromacrofoot on Thursday October 15, 2026 @10:26AM (#50104156)
you have to be because otherwise no one gives a shit