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Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by jeffybefffy519 on Friday October 09, 2026 @07:10PM (#50027731)
Somali pirates WERE fishermen before being pirates... They turned to piracy to combat other countries fishing their waters.
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by rayiner on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:11PM (#50028151)
This isn’t true. Somali piracy has a long history: https://cnrs-scrn.org/northern_mariner/vol23/tnm_23_239-266....

“Contrary to this perception” that piracy was in response to illegal fishing, “piracy was precipitated by the culture of looting rooted in Somali pastoralists’ long-standing means for acquiring otherwise unobtainable cash and goods. This culture was partly created by impoverished conditions, massive unemployment, and lack of local opportunities for education or any other path to better living standards.”

Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by ceejayoz on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:32PM (#50028252)
> Another alternative is one that the United States and other western states are reluctant to endorse: encouraging Sharia courts inside the clan territories. Islamic Sharia courts could be a useful, vital instrument in combating piracy.

Yiiiikes.

Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by rayiner on Saturday October 10, 2026 @12:04AM (#50029453)
You understand Islamic law was a huge advance in the territories where it took hold, right?
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by ceejayoz on Saturday October 10, 2026 @01:50PM (#50035327)
I understand that Al-Shabaab funds itself via piracy.

https://www.reuters.com/article/somalia-piracy-idUSLDE7650U3...

As the Taliban funded itself with heroin in Afghanistan.

Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by happyopossum on Friday October 09, 2026 @07:36PM (#50027911)
That’s a great story, with very little attachment to reality.
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by infinite_spin on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:05PM (#50028112)
>> Foreign fishing has increased more than twenty-fold since 1981

>> Illegal, unreported, and unregulated (IUU) fishing by foreign fishing vessels in Somali waters has been problematic for decades .

>> The central government collapsed in 1991, and the ensuing increase in foreign fishing became a justification for piracy against fishing vessels.

(https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/marine-science/articles...)

Other areas of the world have had similar responses to foreign commercial fishing:

>> In Southeast Asia, as competition for fish and other maritime resources intensified following the Asian Financial Crisis in 1997-1998, increases in industrial fish catch volumes by foreign fleets led to sharp increases in South China Sea pirate attacks organized by residents of villages reliant on small-scale fisheries

(https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal...)

>> Piracy is a growing concern in Sierra Leone, particularly in the northern maritime areas. Foreign trawlers have been attacked and robbed of both their catch and personal effects. Most of the pirates are reported to be from Guinea.

(https://wikileaks.jcvignoli.com/cable_09FREETOWN258)

However, there is evidence that piracy is more likely to exist in places where illegal fishing has declined. (With the disclaimer that "this research does not refute the earlier-held notion that foreign trawlers produce dissatisfied local fishers who turn towards piracy as a defense against foreign intruders."

(https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S096262982...)

Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by dmbche on Friday October 09, 2026 @07:58PM (#50028068)
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Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by ceejayoz on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:12PM (#50028154)
> No. We should cut off their hands.

Does this apply to the illegal fishing fleets, too?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishing_industry_in_China

> The Chinese commercial fishing fleet is responsible for more illegal, unreported and unregulated fishing than that of any other nation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal,_unreported_and_unregu...

Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by rightnutwingjob on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:14PM (#50028178)
Sure.

Why not?

Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by phoghed on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:13PM (#50028166)
> We should have empathy for Somali Pirates because some of they may have initially acted to protect their marine resources?

Who said that? You seem to have made that up and got mad about it.

Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by rightnutwingjob on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:14PM (#50028173)
What is the title of the article we are discuss here?
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by Retric on Friday October 09, 2026 @09:12PM (#50028504)
That does not require empathy. Facts are useful independent of your ethical framework.

If your goal was to kill all former pirates you’d want to know their professional background and likely current occupation.

Similarly a ruthless dictator who wants to end piracy should understand all tools at their disposal.

Ignorance is simply a detriment for efficiency. Though obviously if you want to exploit someone else it’s useful for them to be ignorant, which helps explain your own failings.

Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by krapp on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:12PM (#50028156)
Name definitely checks out.
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by rightnutwingjob on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:16PM (#50028186)
Convincing argument.

You win good Sir.

On the other hand, if you have a contribution to the conversation, please, go right ahead and make it.

Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by bigstrat2003 on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:41PM (#50028304)
I'm not saying he was in the right, but calling people nutjobs (even indirectly) is in pretty flagrant violation of the rules. Don't flame people just because they are making bad posts.
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by readthenotes1 on Friday October 09, 2026 @07:28PM (#50027850)
And then they turn to piracy for its own sake because they realized how lucrative it was
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by IncreasePosts on Friday October 09, 2026 @07:29PM (#50027863)
No, the pirates are organized crime syndicates. They are not the same people who were fishing the waters 35 years ago
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by pythonic_hell on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:35PM (#50028269)
Perhaps they’re pirates because there are no other ways to maintain a living. Like fishing?
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by what on Friday October 09, 2026 @09:53PM (#50028733)
What’s stopping them from fishing?
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by actionfromafar on Saturday October 10, 2026 @01:56PM (#50035398)
Foreign trawlers stealing the fish.
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by IncreasePosts on Friday October 09, 2026 @09:12PM (#50028505)
No, it's literally different people
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by frugalmail on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:46PM (#50028332)
That's why they pirated so many Chinese ships right?
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by mohamedkoubaa on Friday October 09, 2026 @09:00PM (#50028421)
My Somali friend calls them the coastguard (half jokingly)
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by Incipient on Saturday October 10, 2026 @03:20AM (#50030520)
Honestly if Somali pirates legitimately only attacked foreign fishing vessels breaching their sovereign borders - good for them! (I mean, it's quite brutal, but don't fish in someone else's water).

However, Somali pirates attack pretty much anyone, even those not disrespecting their sovereignty, which is less cool.

Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by mikeatlas on Friday October 09, 2026 @07:16PM (#50027780)
> Both things can be true.

Ughhh I hear this like 5x a day now. It's the new emdashery.

Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by phoghed on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:14PM (#50028177)
Damn shame how often people need to be reminded of this, I agree
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by BoorishBears on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:48PM (#50028344)
It's actually pretty rare people need to be reminded of this because it's self-evident and platitudinous.

Much more commonly, the statement is used by writers who want to wax poetic without actually having to commit to any meaningful position on the topic at hand... which is exactly how the AI-written article in question uses it.

Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by phoghed on Friday October 09, 2026 @09:43PM (#50028679)
We must not read the same internets
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by helpfulclippy on Friday October 09, 2026 @07:53PM (#50028026)
Unless someone is a structural engineer or something, I never want to hear the term "load-bearing" again.
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by victorhooi on Friday October 09, 2026 @07:58PM (#50028066)
Aha...gold star =)...10 points to Gryffindor....well played, Sir.
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by esafak on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:20PM (#50028208)
Por qué no...
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by Gensui on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:17PM (#50028192)
Based on my research, he did not actually go to Somalia, but rather to the neighboring Republic of Djibouti.

At the time, Somalia was extremely dangerous and under strict travel restrictions.

Therefore, he established a base in Djibouti, which was relatively safe and hosted a Japan Self-Defense Forces base.

He then invited former pirates and fishermen from the surrounding areas to that location.

In reality, his approach was to provide indirect support through fishing equipment and technical training.

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Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by brendoelfrendo on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:05PM (#50028111)
Your racism belongs elsewhere.
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by tomrod on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:06PM (#50028120)
Looks like a troll/alt account.
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by mattm on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:34PM (#50028265)
> Kimura has told the story in Japanese interviews, and the details come from those.

It'd be nice if the article linked to the sources. There's very little substance in this article.

Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by card_zero on Friday October 09, 2026 @09:46PM (#50028697)
The actual interview might not say much more. https://gendai.media/articles/-/48307
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by XuxOp on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:46PM (#50028333)
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Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by rsalus on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:48PM (#50028340)
Besides being obviously AI editorialized, the idea that a few fishing boats were the reason Somali piracy stopped and not because of an international coalition of navies is... quite a stretch.
Re:Japan's Most Famous Tuna Buyer Says He Turned Somali Pira... by volcomy on Friday October 09, 2026 @09:08PM (#50028471)
Fighting piracy with a supply chain is the most sushi-chef approach imaginable.