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Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by b112 on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:21AM (#49684325)
Flock was seed round funded by YC, not "a YC company".

It's not like they control it, manage it, and what was pitched may be significantly different than what happened since then.

YC isn't perfect, but what words you use, and their order is important. And the way you're phrasing it, you make it sound as if they are a subsidiary of YC. Or as if YC is on the board.

If any of these things are true, you should plainly state them. Otherwise, what you're saying is incorrect.

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by weird-eye-issue on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:35AM (#49684465)
YC funds companies and we are all aware of that so by saying it's a YC company because they gave them seed money is already exactly the correct wording
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by card_zero on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:42AM (#49684530)
How about the "it’s them" part?
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by HNhelpsFlock on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:48AM (#49684610)
It is them. It’s certainly not “the government” many of which are banning Flock cameras.

Those local governments that aren’t banning are getting a cut of the ad revenue they make off these real world ads.

Literally wake up what is wrong with you people

You would let them do anything! You are actually a liability now just for being so unbelievably ignorant.

It’s the high rep accounts sticking their neck out for Flock and YC so it seems like HN is in on it too.

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by josfredo on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:59AM (#49684726)
Holy conspiracy theorists. I surely was not expecting this amount of paranoia from a sound place like HN. Either way, drama is always welcome, for it is ultimately unavoidable, in one form or another.
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by card_zero on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:52AM (#49684649)
I just don't like moral distortions. Is YC in control of Flock or responsible for their choices? Who are "them", what are we ignorant about and why is it Marxism?
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by HNhelpsFlock on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:56AM (#49684694)
> Who are “them”

YC (you want me to name the partners here? Or Flock’s YC advisors?)

> Marxism

Can someone please downvote this fool since it was never said

> I don’t like moral distortions

No you love them

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by card_zero on Sunday September 13, 2026 @11:00AM (#49684744)
But what are you saying? YC are to blame for the unsavory future directions of the companies they fund. Counterargument, no they're not, what are you banging on about.
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @11:20AM (#49684997)
Classic ideologue behavior of no-nuance blind rage to stoke as much support as possible for their cause.

"My cause is more important than honesty, and honesty could detract from the rage energy I need"

You see this is everywhere, and it (lack of rational discussion/reasoning) is soooo incredibly destructive to society.

We can stop Flock without having to make up lies. They do enough bad stuff that their is no need for deceit and conspiracy...

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by b112 on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:58AM (#49684719)
No, no it isn't.
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by weird-eye-issue on Sunday September 13, 2026 @09:07PM (#49690583)
Yes, yes it is.
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by jazzypants on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:27AM (#49684380)
Would you balk similarly at someone calling reddit or airbnb a "YC company"?
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by malfist on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:40AM (#49684508)
Me personally? No. Label fits.
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by LastTrain on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:25AM (#49684369)
If the they didn't pitch the massive surveillance and data capturing aspects they wouldn’t have got the funding.
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:34AM (#49684455)
Blantantly making stuff up is a bad look, they were founded as an HOA (private neighborhood) security service.

>Flock’s camera and accompanying software is geared towards private neighborhoods and neighborhood associations looking to decrease petty crime.[1]

[1]https://www.hypepotamus.com/flock-safety-funding-round-growt...

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by thejazzman on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:40AM (#49684510)
YC won’t invest unless you convince them you’re potentially $100B company.

The scope is always the largest possible audience…

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:56AM (#49684691)
Well until there is solid evidence of them wanting a government mass surveillance apperatus, I'm not gonna grab a pitchfork.

I've been on the internet too long to give credence to people who resort to conspiracy when data doesn't fit their desired narrative.

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by tekla on Sunday September 13, 2026 @11:05AM (#49684808)
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @11:10AM (#49684869)
From 2017 please...

Unfortunately Google seems to have removed the ability to search only in specific time frames, but the original pitch I'm sure does exist out there.

There are over 350K HOAs in the US, so scaling to just HOAs would still be an undertaking

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by orangeberrytea on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:53AM (#49684665)
You’re not being honest.

You don’t mention that they were reading license plates with cameras from Day 1 already tracking people - that was the technology and still is

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:56AM (#49684701)
I'm pretty sure HOAs would honestly want that, and I don't think the anyone would care about pocket networks in private communities.
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by HNhelpsFlock on Sunday September 13, 2026 @11:00AM (#49684737)
He’s right. You’re wrong or lying on purpose. Fact check it. They have been reading license plates from the beginning. That’s what it is.
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @11:06AM (#49684816)
Let me rephrase my comment you are replying to for clarity

"Yes, HOAs would honestly want plate readers.."

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by orangeberrytea on Sunday September 13, 2026 @11:16AM (#49684942)
You went from that user “blatantly making up” that they surveil and collect data to “well because HOAs want that”

Bad look

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @11:30AM (#49685102)
I don't think private HOA networks count as "mass surveillance".
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by throwaway173738 on Sunday September 13, 2026 @11:53AM (#49685372)
An HOA has a lot more leeway to do whatever it wants than other local governments. They get to act as government sometimes, then as a corporation sometimes, and then as a group of amateur lawyers sometimes. They can both pass laws and try you for violating them without recourse. And IME only the most toxic people stay on the board for very long.
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @12:05PM (#49685512)
Ok cool.

Wake me up when HOAs are nationally detaining people.

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by blueoranges on Sunday September 13, 2026 @12:00PM (#49685462)
Nobody is saying HOA except you.

It started as license plate readers and expanded to include identifying people by clothing, body type, etc. storing it in a database that communicates with surveillance networks in other cities.

That is literally mass surveillance.

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @12:07PM (#49685540)
>Nobody is saying HOA except you.

Me and the founding mission of flock when it got seed funding from HN in 2017.

Flocks original goal was private security for HOAs, nothing to do with police/government. Hence this whole debacle here in the comments.

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by LastTrain on Sunday September 13, 2026 @11:39AM (#49685202)
I’m not making anything up any more than you are. Neither of us was there. My point: you don’t get YC funding unless you have a disruptive business idea. “Cameras, but to a niche HOA market” is not that.
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @12:00PM (#49685461)
The 350K HOAs are hardly "niche".
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by dkarl on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:39AM (#49684500)
Same thing on a smaller scale, and they never would have got venture capital funding if they didn't have an upward trajectory from HOAs. There's only one path upward from private HOA surveillance, and that's government surveillance.
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by b112 on Sunday September 13, 2026 @07:30PM (#49689857)
Ny that reasoning, every single company will run out of gpod scale reasons, and therefore scale for bad reasons, so you're evil to fund anyone ever.
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by tekla on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:53AM (#49684662)
Doesn't seem to be what their YC Pitch was

https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/flock-safety

> From the moment we started Flock Safety, we had an incredibly clear, boldly audacious mission ... We provide a life-or-death product, a mission-critical system for cities

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @11:08AM (#49684842)
Links from 2017 would be the best way to see what YC invested in, no?
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by sobellian on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:47AM (#49684597)
I don't really have a strong opinion either way on Flock but this is a strange objection. YC is a well-known startup accelerator that makes (pre-seed!) investments. I don't know if anyone has ever sincerely taken "YC company" to mean a subsidiary of YC. That's like confusing "a Sequoia company" as a subsidiary of Sequoia.
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by plorkyeran on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:44AM (#49684556)
Having your seed round funded by YC is what being a "YC company" means. That is exactly what people are referring to every time they say that phrase.
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by WarmWash on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:25AM (#49684361)
Using misleading language is the best way to get up votes though!
Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by tekla on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:29AM (#49684407)
https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/flock-safety

> When Demo Day was over, after we had booked meetings with investors and were well on our way to our first fundraising round, YC set the tone for scaling Flock doggedly, purposefully, and with consistent velocity, for years to come.

Damn, its almost like YC really set the stage for mass AI surveillance from the founders own mouth

Re:Flock worker calls police on reporter filming public came... by topato on Sunday September 13, 2026 @10:46AM (#49684583)
That’s such a damning quote, that it makes all other comments ITT obsolete lol